I am looking for recommendations for shaft, ferrule, and tip combo for a soft hit. I currently have a Jacoby Hybrid with a Kamui black super soft. I would like to find something with a softer hit. My cue has a radial pin. Any recommendations?
Soft hit combo
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Try an OB-1 shaft! The wooden ferrule has quite some soft hit!!
I thought the jacoby edge shafts are supposed to be stiff hitting. I second the OB shafts... They felt softer than the old 314 I had. For tips, the tiger snipers feel soft, although they're considered a medium. The kamui's brown super soft is also supposed to be softer than the blacks. I think a wood-to-wood joint also helps with achieving a softer hit. Go out and try a bunch of cues if you can.
Step one is changing the ferrule... Have them go with titan and reinstall the Supersoft... After that report back and we can go again.......
Using a blast from the past from huebler you could also have them put a nylon insert into the shaft for next to nothing...
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When I received my old Samsara it had an extremely stiff hit with, in my opinion, a pretty distracting "PING" sound (particularly noticeable when I would hit the cue ball even slightly off-center.) The first thing I did was swap the original Sumo tip for an original Moori (this was back in '01 or '02). That helped quite a bit but it still maintained more of the "PING" element than I liked. So, the following year I had Joe Blackburn install an ivory ferrule and another original Moori and then it was perfect. It still had the stiff feel but the sound was a lot more to my liking.
This may or may not help. I guess what I'm getting as is a lot of times people interchange "hard hitting" with "stiff hitting" and I really don't see it that way. (I mean, I'm not saying you're doing that, but I want to put this out there just to make sure we're all on the same page.) To me, a cue that hits hard is loud or has a sharp tonal quality such as a "PING" or "DINK." Whereas a cue that hits soft is quiet with a more subdued tone. Think of the difference between the sound of an aluminum baseball bat hitting a ball verses a wooden one. Conversely, the term "stiff hitting" refers more to the taper. A cue can hit stiff, whippy, or anywhere in between. So in a nutshell, when it was all said and done, that Samsara had a VERY nice hit. It was stiff (taper) yet soft (tone). I'm sure that I'm oversimplifying it a bit, but hopefully you guys understand what I'm trying to say.
Good luck and I hope you find the hit you're looking for!
This may or may not help. I guess what I'm getting as is a lot of times people interchange "hard hitting" with "stiff hitting" and I really don't see it that way. (I mean, I'm not saying you're doing that, but I want to put this out there just to make sure we're all on the same page.) To me, a cue that hits hard is loud or has a sharp tonal quality such as a "PING" or "DINK." Whereas a cue that hits soft is quiet with a more subdued tone. Think of the difference between the sound of an aluminum baseball bat hitting a ball verses a wooden one. Conversely, the term "stiff hitting" refers more to the taper. A cue can hit stiff, whippy, or anywhere in between. So in a nutshell, when it was all said and done, that Samsara had a VERY nice hit. It was stiff (taper) yet soft (tone). I'm sure that I'm oversimplifying it a bit, but hopefully you guys understand what I'm trying to say.
Good luck and I hope you find the hit you're looking for!
I agree. Though I've played well with SS joints, I find brass softer, phenolic or plastic softer yet, and wood to wood the softest.
I really like the hit of my phenolic joint Joss with an original 314 shaft and an original Moori S/M tip.
Ivory ferrules do not provide a soft hit. Not at all. Hard as a tusk.
Look no further. The Miracle cue, or the Wonder for that matter, from Steamer Cue Sports Ltd. has just what you're after in a soft hitting shaft.
Both cues feature an ultra-low deflection shaft with Steamer Cue Sports own proprietary tip, the Fourskin. Just ask for limp when you place your order.
It'll be like getting hit by a marshmallow truck.
Both cues feature an ultra-low deflection shaft with Steamer Cue Sports own proprietary tip, the Fourskin. Just ask for limp when you place your order.
It'll be like getting hit by a marshmallow truck.
moochie and a milk dud
I'm near about certain sure that back in the day of the famous moochie noodle shaft Bob was using soft maple, not hard maple, to make his shafts. Let someone turn you a shaft from soft maple, I don't know about the ferrule but the Titan seems to be generally popular for a soft hit, and a milk dud. The trick with the milk dud is to use a dairy product and only compress it back to it's original height. Short joint collars of your favorite plastic and a G-10 pin which I believe may contribute to a soft hit.
You will need a nearby cue builder or repairman that will start with a fairly stiff taper on that shaft and sneak up on the hit you like as you play with it. It would be very easy to get The Trampster's limp fourskin issue with this combination!
Hu
I'm near about certain sure that back in the day of the famous moochie noodle shaft Bob was using soft maple, not hard maple, to make his shafts. Let someone turn you a shaft from soft maple, I don't know about the ferrule but the Titan seems to be generally popular for a soft hit, and a milk dud. The trick with the milk dud is to use a dairy product and only compress it back to it's original height. Short joint collars of your favorite plastic and a G-10 pin which I believe may contribute to a soft hit.
You will need a nearby cue builder or repairman that will start with a fairly stiff taper on that shaft and sneak up on the hit you like as you play with it. It would be very easy to get The Trampster's limp fourskin issue with this combination!
Hu
Thanks for all the responses. It looks like I might need to try an OB shaft and/or Titan ferrule.
Shaft
That was my thought ,except ai think the black dot shaft was about the softest hitting cue I had ever played with.
On problem is the black dot shafts in my neck of the woods don't seem to hold together.
I would think a PVC ferrule would contribute to a soft hit .
That was my thought ,except ai think the black dot shaft was about the softest hitting cue I had ever played with.
On problem is the black dot shafts in my neck of the woods don't seem to hold together.
I would think a PVC ferrule would contribute to a soft hit .