You tube video page of "Tasman" (France) which has videos of him making a nice series in the free game.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Tamsan3#p/u/1/xgJtQ_ZMFeU
http://www.youtube.com/user/Tamsan3#p/u/1/xgJtQ_ZMFeU
Some more videos of straight rail (France)
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Great find there, Dean!
I just wish they had places like this where I live at. Put a few carom tables of freegame balks, 48cm (#), 72cm and 28 inch (+) balklines with anchors and I would literately live there.
You can't seriously enjoy watching that.
No skill, let me hit the cue ball 1/2 inch and another 1/2 inch.
There is a reason the runs for this game are really high.
No skill, let me hit the cue ball 1/2 inch and another 1/2 inch.
There is a reason the runs for this game are really high.
I had to post again, are you serious. REALLY, did you watch this?
I enjoy the part where he pauses to think and then taps 1/4 inch.
Tough tough game.
I enjoy the part where he pauses to think and then taps 1/4 inch.
Tough tough game.
That is what separates the strong from the weak: Tollerating great games like this.
No skil, eh? Well, if you perfect control for three "measly" balls over trying to just bang balls into a pocket (allas: pocket billiards), I definately call that skill. It takes alot more than to just move balls (like you said) a few centimeters here and a few centimeters there. It involves precisely placing those three balls in one's control. When one has control, it makes the one without look like dunces. Want to take an example: Efren and Earl - two great players, one with balkline background... one that just shotmakes. I can imagine how Frederic Caudron would fit if he converted into Pool... hmm :scratchhead:.
Oh I must submit to your great points. I mean it's a really hard game with people running 5 and 10k points and tons of people running into the thousands.
This is what pool needs to come back into the forefront. Please get this put on espn.
This is what pool needs to come back into the forefront. Please get this put on espn.
I'm not able to see your point - is it that because people are able to play this game at its maximum level it's too easy? If Ronnie O scores a 147 does that make snooker not a 'really hard game'?
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Shut up... you're an idiot.
I'm sick of pocket and non pocket ball players ragging on each other. Both games require the same amount of skills.
Both games are pretty boring to watch if you don't play it.
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Dang... the guys really good. Hes so young too.
This post was no joke
To answer your question, yes I was serious in posting the videos of Tasman up.
The free game is sort of what got me interested in all the Carom games. I play free game regularly, but I cannot make the high runs Tasman is doing. I liked the video because it showed what he did when he ran into a problem and his solution for the problem.
To answer your question, yes I was serious in posting the videos of Tasman up.
The free game is sort of what got me interested in all the Carom games.
I play free game regularly, but I cannot make the high runs Tasman is doing. I liked the video because it showed what he did when he ran into a problem and his solution for the problem.
Was the problem when he had to move the ball 1/4th of an inch instead of 1/6th of an inch
People don't routinely run 147's, however people do routinely run thousands in this game.
People don't routinely run 147's, however people do routinely run thousands in this game.
I'm wondering how many YOU think YOU can run at this game?
You can start with the balls in any position you choose with the exception of the two object balls locked in a corner.
You mean how many can I run before I fall asleep of total boredom?
I'll address your point and then consider myself done with the conversation, as in my experience it doesn't pay to try and discuss anything with someone who doesn't want to learn anything. I never knew a really good snooker player who didn't respect the game of English Billiards, and I doubt there are many pro pool players who don't at least respect the existence of carom games (yes, even the small ones).
I mentioned a 147 in snooker by way of comparison because I was hoping you'd make the leap (which you never did) and understand that here you have a game, snooker, which all pool players respect as difficult but which tops out a maximum number of scorable points, and what happens? People come along and achieve a perfect score. In fact, some might argue that a small games carom player would be within his rights to say that a 147-type of definable goal would be far easier to set your sights on that the endless achievable points in billiards he might be expected to make.
Of course, no billiards player would say that because it would be a completely stupid and unprovable thing to say, and because that billiards player would likely realize there are better ways to spend his time than going in to snooker forums and blasting the game. He doesn't look at a 6 pack run in 9 ball, for example, and think, 'Hah - 6 is sure a small number. Must be easy to do.' Instead, he thinks about all the nuance and technique that probably went into each shot, each positional play, and looks at the accomplishment as a big picture. He doesn't look at it as a 6. He doesn't look at a 150 in straight pool and think, '150 is nothing. I make 1,000 in my game.'
Is any of this starting to make sense to you? It's not about the numbers, and if you really want to make it so by way of something other than dismissive statements like 'that's easy', why don't you put something together for us to look at? Maybe a comparison of how many years players of each types of games put in before they achieve whatever maximum level, or numbers of points achieved in games by amateur players in local tournaments, etc. If it turns out that guys who have been playing small caroms are scoring runs in the 100s every time they shoot after only a few years of practice, I'll certainly acknowledge that point when I see it.
I personally can't think of anything that'd be a bigger pain in the ass than to construct a sliding scale of difficulty among all the games but hey, I'm not the one who says they're inequal.
I mentioned a 147 in snooker by way of comparison because I was hoping you'd make the leap (which you never did) and understand that here you have a game, snooker, which all pool players respect as difficult but which tops out a maximum number of scorable points, and what happens? People come along and achieve a perfect score. In fact, some might argue that a small games carom player would be within his rights to say that a 147-type of definable goal would be far easier to set your sights on that the endless achievable points in billiards he might be expected to make.
Of course, no billiards player would say that because it would be a completely stupid and unprovable thing to say, and because that billiards player would likely realize there are better ways to spend his time than going in to snooker forums and blasting the game. He doesn't look at a 6 pack run in 9 ball, for example, and think, 'Hah - 6 is sure a small number. Must be easy to do.' Instead, he thinks about all the nuance and technique that probably went into each shot, each positional play, and looks at the accomplishment as a big picture. He doesn't look at it as a 6. He doesn't look at a 150 in straight pool and think, '150 is nothing. I make 1,000 in my game.'
Is any of this starting to make sense to you? It's not about the numbers, and if you really want to make it so by way of something other than dismissive statements like 'that's easy', why don't you put something together for us to look at? Maybe a comparison of how many years players of each types of games put in before they achieve whatever maximum level, or numbers of points achieved in games by amateur players in local tournaments, etc. If it turns out that guys who have been playing small caroms are scoring runs in the 100s every time they shoot after only a few years of practice, I'll certainly acknowledge that point when I see it.
I personally can't think of anything that'd be a bigger pain in the ass than to construct a sliding scale of difficulty among all the games but hey, I'm not the one who says they're inequal.
You seem to have nimble fingers to type alot of bulls***. Why don't you stop typing like you think you know too much, get off your @$$, go to a nearby carom heated table and try to accomplish what that kid on the video can do or better -- seeing how obnoxious you are. Can not find a carom table nearby? Tough, progress on being an ignorant, coin-op banging s**t talker. I'll stop here... I don't like to waste time leaning down to your level, u12armresl.
Are you sure?
Evolution
Gentleman,
I totally understand and respect both opinion,
The game evolved threw the years!
Starting by free game to 1 cushion and recently to 3 cushion.
The free game is boring , and that's why the 1 cushion started.... and
the 1 cushion is boring to watch as well ,......................
THAT"S WHY we have 3 cushion..(most intresting game to watch for many billiard players)
Of course all game request skills ,either you play it good or not and you will notice that the 1 cushion need more precision and speed control.
( Mr Ceulemans used to practice like 1 hour 1 cushion game before he jumped to the 3 cushion game,just to loosen the stroke).
Cheers.
Gentleman,
I totally understand and respect both opinion,
The game evolved threw the years!
Starting by free game to 1 cushion and recently to 3 cushion.
The free game is boring , and that's why the 1 cushion started.... and
the 1 cushion is boring to watch as well ,......................
THAT"S WHY we have 3 cushion..(most intresting game to watch for many billiard players)
Of course all game request skills ,either you play it good or not and you will notice that the 1 cushion need more precision and speed control.
( Mr Ceulemans used to practice like 1 hour 1 cushion game before he jumped to the 3 cushion game,just to loosen the stroke).
Cheers.
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