some questions about Dale Parry

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1. How much is the cheapest Dale Parry hand-made cue?
2. I see there are some Dale Parry cues are only around $400, are they real hand-made? Or just made by machine?
3. I also heard that Dale Parry was the original inventor of Predator 314 shaft. Is that true?
 
Yeah there's a lot of DP advertisement going on in Asia at moment.

Most of them selling quite cheap and claiming they are one of the kind handmade cues.

But anyway, who knows.
 
Spend your money on something else. His cues are cheaply made. For $400 you can get something 1,000,000 times better. He was not the inventor of the 314 shaft, if he was he wouldn't be peddling cheaply made cues on eBay. Good luck in your search for a cue. With a $400 budget you should be able to find something nice in the for sale section here.


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He numbers every cue as a 1 of 1. Technically, he is right, because every piece of wood is slightly different, but most of the cues are the same. They sell on Ebay for $100-250. They all come with a "Certificate of Authenticity" that usually states Dealer price is $1795, or something like that. I call BS on that. Think about it...who sells a product for under 10% of it's value. Who would "under-cut" his dealers like that? No one.

As a $100-$250 cue, they are good buys. I hope the Chinese/Asian players are not over-paying for the cues.

I have certainly never heard of him as the inventor of the 314 shaft. I think Predator holds the patent on that. He came out with a DP-R shaft much later than Predator. Now, he offers a "Stage IV" shaft, which is very similar to Mike Gulyassy's long tapered shafts.

Joe
 
80P said:
Spend your money on something else. His cues are cheaply made. For $400 you can get something 1,000,000 times better. He was not the inventor of the 314 shaft, if he was he wouldn't be peddling cheaply made cues on eBay. Good luck in your search for a cue. With a $400 budget you should be able to find something nice in the for sale section here.


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Can you define what you mean by "cheaply made cues"? Specifically, I mean.

Are the tips screw on?

Is the glue non-stick?

Is the wrap a cheap nylon?

Does he not use good shaft wood?

Is the polyurethane really water colors?

The maker goes out of his way to use balsa wood?

What ... the points don't line up with a microscope?

I've always wanted to understand that statement, cheaply made. Does the chuck in his CnC machine wiggle?

Is his lathe running out badly?

I don't know this guy, I've never even held one of his cues. I see them on ebay, 150 to 200 bucks, they look fine to me.

How many moving parts does a cue stick have to go bad or fail after 100,000 miles?

Do they develop a knock if you don't change the oil in them?

In other words ... really ... what the hell goes wrong with these cues or any other cue? There's no moving parts!

Are the joint threads made from crayons? Do they fall apart?

I think they are over priced as it is, waddia think about that?

I paid 65 bucks a piece for my cues. They came with 2 shafts EACH, not one, free joint protectors, free shipping and then, I splurged and had different color wraps put on for 40 bucks each. So I have 4 cues, 8 shafts, joint protectors and linen wraps that I like the color of, for $420 bucks total. (thats $105 bucks each in case your imported smartphone battery is dead.)

Are they imported, yeah, just like 80% of all the things we own. So what? like I said, how many moving parts are on a cue?

The only thing I've found wrong with them so far is they can only run up to 78 balls without missing. Someone told me that if I used them for more than 10 hrs a week, they would "break in" they would run more balls. Waddia think?

I call my cues fareast cues, imports for sure, but wait ... if an Asian buys a Southwest cue ... isn't it an import to them? :scratchhead: What's the difference?

I know the difference ... thousands of dollars. Am I going to worry about my cues losing value? Ummm ... 65 bucks, how much do I stand to lose? :lmao:

I know, I know ... but I'm not going to make anything on them. Well I've decided to invest in other things besides overpriced cues for my return on investment efforts, thank you. Crazy things like gold, silver, mutual funds, ya know.

Now .. .time out. If you like to collect custom cues for thousands of dollars, that's one thing, but if you think for a minute that they are any better than a 150 or 200 dollar cue for playing pool, you're crazy. They are wood, plastic and metal.

I have absolutely no desire to collect or pay a ton of money for a cue. I want a decent looking cue that I can play with. With 8 shafts I can experiment with tips and taper how I like.

I posted a picture of these masterpiece cues before but here they are .... my prized collection. I say, go spend the buck and a half ... enjoy, and take the other 5 Grand and invest it in something worthwhile.
 

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3andstop said:
Can you define what you mean by "cheaply made cues"? Specifically, I mean.

Are the tips screw on?

Is the glue non-stick?

Is the wrap a cheap nylon?

Does he not use good shaft wood?

Is the polyurethane really water colors?

The maker goes out of his way to use balsa wood?

What ... the points don't line up with a microscope?

I've always wanted to understand that statement, cheaply made. Does the chuck in his CnC machine wiggle?

Is his lathe running out badly?

I don't know this guy, I've never even held one of his cues. I see them on ebay, 150 to 200 bucks, they look fine to me.

How many moving parts does a cue stick have to go bad or fail after 100,000 miles?

Do they develop a knock if you don't change the oil in them?

In other words ... really ... what the hell goes wrong with these cues or any other cue? There's no moving parts!

Are the joint threads made from crayons? Do they fall apart?

I think they are over priced as it is, waddia think about that?

I paid 65 bucks a piece for my cues. They came with 2 shafts EACH, not one, free joint protectors, free shipping and then, I splurged and had different color wraps put on for 40 bucks each. So I have 4 cues, 8 shafts, joint protectors and linen wraps that I like the color of, for $420 bucks total. (thats $105 bucks each in case your imported smartphone battery is dead.)

Are they imported, yeah, just like 80% of all the things we own. So what? like I said, how many moving parts are on a cue?

The only thing I've found wrong with them so far is they can only run up to 78 balls without missing. Someone told me that if I used them for more than 10 hrs a week, they would "break in" they would run more balls. Waddia think?

I call my cues fareast cues, imports for sure, but wait ... if an Asian buys a Southwest cue ... isn't it an import to them? :scratchhead: What's the difference?

I know the difference ... thousands of dollars. Am I going to worry about my cues losing value? Ummm ... 65 bucks, how much do I stand to lose? :lmao:

I know, I know ... but I'm not going to make anything on them. Well I've decided to invest in other things besides overpriced cues for my return on investment efforts, thank you. Crazy things like gold, silver, mutual funds, ya know.

Now .. .time out. If you like to collect custom cues for thousands of dollars, that's one thing, but if you think for a minute that they are any better than a 150 or 200 dollar cue for playing pool, you're crazy. They are wood, plastic and metal.

I have absolutely no desire to collect or pay a ton of money for a cue. I want a decent looking cue that I can play with. With 8 shafts I can experiment with tips and taper how I like.

I posted a picture of these masterpiece cues before but here they are .... my prized collection. I say, go spend the buck and a half ... enjoy, and take the other 5 Grand and invest it in something worthwhile.
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IMO/EXPERIENCE
Dale makes A GREAT PLAYING CUE
I have had several new cues from ebay
all were nice, straight
good quality,
ESPECIALLY FOR THE $$$$ spent
nice shafts,
irish linen wraps,
inlays
USUALLY Highly figured curly maple too
wood to wood, brass radial pin
can't go wrong...IMO
MUCH BETTER Than Players, lucasi, etc
 
Do a quick search here for his cues. They fall apart. There's a good thread here that shows one that the joint basically exploded after one break. Your $150-$200 would be better spent on a cheaper production cue. DP is just pumping out cheap cues for his eBay store and the quality has been long gone for a while now. Some of his older cues are great, it just seems since he went to eBay he is just getting them out fast with no quality control or care on the quality. Good luck in your search and spend your money however you want. I just felt I would give my opinion. In the end that's all this really is.....my opinion. Im sure there are players out there that love their DP cues. I can only speak for what I have seen. Good luck


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80P said:
Do a quick search here for his cues. They fall apart. There's a good thread here that shows one that the joint basically exploded after one break. Your $150-$200 would be better spent on a cheaper production cue. DP is just pumping out cheap cues for his eBay store and the quality has been long gone for a while now. Some of his older cues are great, it just seems since he went to eBay he is just getting them out fast with no quality control or care on the quality. Good luck in your search and spend your money however you want. I just felt I would give my opinion. In the end that's all this really is.....my opinion. Im sure there are players out there that love their DP cues. I can only speak for what I have seen. Good luck


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For the few bad reviews on here, there are plenty of people who have had no problems with them.
 
Duane Remick said:
IMO/EXPERIENCE
Dale makes A GREAT PLAYING CUE
I have had several new cues from ebay
all were nice, straight
good quality,
ESPECIALLY FOR THE $$$$ spent
nice shafts,
irish linen wraps,
inlays
USUALLY Highly figured curly maple too
wood to wood, brass radial pin
can't go wrong...IMO
MUCH BETTER Than Players, lucasi, etc
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RIGHT? .... how much more can you ask for? Very nice looking cues for ridiculously reasonable money!

And ... I'll just bet that plenty ( and I mean PLENTY) of custom cue makers have had an "oops" with some of the cues they sell. Why, because all cue makers are human and all humans make mistakes.
 
leto1776 said:
For the few bad reviews on here, there are plenty of people who have had no problems with them.
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Just a disaster waiting to happen. Regardless of "problems" with them, even the DP cues I've seen that are "older" are still pretty crappy. Before you freak out, the "older" cues I'm referring to are cues that are 3-4 years old.

A guy and his wife in our APA division both have DP Cues that they paid around $100 for. They both claim they are the best cues ever made, but they don't break with them and I've never seen them even hit a shot at half speed. There is a difference between babying a cue and having to baby it, because it might explode! :thumbup:
 
My wife loves hers that was ordered November 08, received January 09 (one of a custom ones not ebay) that was made for her. It isn't falling apart and seems just fine for about 5 years of playing a lot with it.
 
I have owned 3, sold two of them to people who hit with them at the pool hall and liked them. All 3 were the eBay specials, that I got shipped for $115-130. I still have the third one and bought it 2 years ago. The other 2 are now probably 5 years old.

The ONLY problem that I have seen or heard about any of those 3 eBay cues was that the one I have now has a split at the joint and the steel cap at the joint on the butt end is loose. That's because it's my bar beater and some douche that I let play with it missed a shot and threw it across the bar. Before that, no problems whatsoever. I have only had or played with ones made from bacote so maybe those stay together better? Shafts are OK, but I definitely prefer my Schon shaft. I think my DP actually has a slight warp now that I think about it. Could be from riding in the trunk though.

Personally, for just over $100 shipped, you can't beat them IMHO. That said, I would never pay $400 for one. I've seen lots of the not-so-ornate Schons go for less than that so I'd probably be on the lookout for one of those at that price point.
 
DAVE_M said:
Just a disaster waiting to happen. Regardless of "problems" with them, even the DP cues I've seen that are "older" are still pretty crappy. Before you freak out, the "older" cues I'm referring to are cues that are 3-4 years old.

A guy and his wife in our APA division both have DP Cues that they paid around $100 for. They both claim they are the best cues ever made, but they don't break with them and I've never seen them even hit a shot at half speed. There is a difference between babying a cue and having to baby it, because it might explode! :thumbup:
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I have two, they aren't babied (even ley my brother use one in his league, and I wouldn't trust him with anything). Not sure why people would be breaking with them, when dedicated break cues can be had for little money (one of the complaint threads was about a guy who was breaking with his).
 
I have a DP cue. Plays great. I did have it re-wrapped. Can't beat it for the money spent. I got mine for $120 on Ebay about a year ago.
 
I have one as well. 3.5 years old. Not a single issue. I break with it and play with a very firm stroke. Matched it with an ob classic about 8 months ago, extremely solid hit. Absolutely love it but like many of us, I love to buy and now shoot with a predator. DP is for sale if your interested, ob and original shaft included.
 
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