Some Rational, Reasonable, Truthfully Logical, Cognitive Thought Regarding CTE

straightline said:
The method is the placebo. It must function as a psychological buffer for those who fear shooting an actual shot.
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Oh minor success with a system is definitely a placebo for the psyche, especially when their are flaws in the mechanics. No different then the hack golfer being suckered in by that 1 in a 100 swings. Success with any system will be bottle necked by bad form. The system may bail you out from time to time, but those odds are completely dependant on how straight you flap your wing at that given moment.

My original post was an effort to lead a horse to water without actually touching the reins. Failed miserably...
 
straightline said:
How does a '3 months in' trial validate a lifelong pursuit?
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Just saying that I am confident that when all else is equal between two players the one who learns cte will have the better shot making ability.

That player will be able to learn a professional aiming method because of the past 15 years of study and refinement of that system.

Singular focus that leads to broad benefit is a good thing.
 
The_JV said:
Oh minor success with a system is definitely a placebo for the psyche, especially when their are flaws in the mechanics. No different then the hack golfer being suckered in by that 1 in a 100 swings. Success with any system will be bottle necked by bad form. The system may bail you out from time to time, but those odds are completely dependant on how straight you flap your wing at that given moment.

My original post was an effort to lead a horse to water without actually touching the reins. Failed miserably...
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Well easy to prove, just design a test that shows whether your player using a feel-imagination method is able to outscore a player using an objective-directed method.

Just assume both players have a straight stroke.
 
straightline said:
Boxcar said:
Some people see the world through a unique prism. That's how you validate it.
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And some people just try things, measure the results and assess value accordingly. Not everyone will have the same results not the same valuation.
straightline said:
Rose colored I presume...
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Nah, just easily trackable results clearly seen.

But as a general rule you ought to relieve anyone whom you think is unable to see reality of their resources if you can find a way to do that. If the person really is unable to discern truth from fiction then you should have an easy task. Otherwise those with sufficient resources might use them to propagate their truth and render your objections insignificant.
 
No city was built and no system mastered just by thinking about them. One can think of the how but one must do to experience the why.
 
The_JV said:
Oh minor success with a system is definitely a placebo for the psyche, especially when their are flaws in the mechanics. No different then the hack golfer being suckered in by that 1 in a 100 swings. Success with any system will be bottle necked by bad form. The system may bail you out from time to time, but those odds are completely dependant on how straight you flap your wing at that given moment.

My original post was an effort to lead a horse to water without actually touching the reins. Failed miserably...
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What's your definition of minor and major success? Minor might be a slight improvement in tournament results and major might be putting up lots of top tens and winning some pro events? Is that a fair scale?
 
JB Cases said:
When any one can demonstrate the shot making that Stan has shown me and describe their method then I will concede that their method is as good or maybe better.
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You were complaining that I accused you of being scientifically illiterate. Here is the proof. I won't explain it to you because history shows you still won't get it. Predictably, you have also misunderstood the placebo reference. I think you misunderstand things intentionally so they can be twisted into support for CTE.

As far as contacting Stan's publisher - who gives a flip? The story, since you seem not to be aware, is that I claimed that Stan probably did not have a publisher and he self-published. That was the end of it until cookie called me a liar and other nasty things that a "real good guy from Tampa" probably would not say. Given that uncalled for personal attack I called the number provided for Butler books and I asked them who published the book. They said that Stan was the publisher. In a sane world that would be the end of it but of course in CTE fantasy land I am still a liar and a stalker. It really is funny and sad at the same time.

Finally, it appears that it takes an awful lot of words for you to say you are ignoring me. When is that going to start?
 
"Given that uncalled for personal attack I called the number provided for Butler books and I asked them who published the book. They said that Stan was the publisher. In a sane world that would be the end of it but of course in CTE fantasy land I am still a liar and a stalker. It really is funny and sad at the same time."

Given all the blowback from the Altar Boys regarding the fact that Stan self published his new book, could it be possible that one or two or all of them may have been investors in the venture and are now, because of what appears to be a rather dismal sales record, embarrassed to admit their involvement, and are using aggressive rhetoric to camouflage the failure?
 
Boxcar said:
"Given that uncalled for personal attack I called the number provided for Butler books and I asked them who published the book. They said that Stan was the publisher. In a sane world that would be the end of it but of course in CTE fantasy land I am still a liar and a stalker. It really is funny and sad at the same time."

Given all the blowback from the Altar Boys regarding the fact that Stan self published his new book, could it be possible that one or two or all of them may have been investors in the venture and are now, because of what appears to be a rather dismal sales record, embarrassed to admit their involvement, and are using aggressive rhetoric to camouflage the failure?
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I don't think so. It is something beyond money, more like religion. I won't use the four letter "c" word because that causes too much stress (no, not that "c" work, lol).

For most (all?) of the CTE guys all they care about is they play better than before using CTE, so what's wrong with that? Well, by that logic what is wrong with my Jelly Bean system? That's the one where you put two jelly beans in your left pocket and touch them before each shot. Practice 5 specifically defined shots over and over and over and in a few months you will see great improvement. Just be sure you have those jelly beans for that extra confidence boost.

The fact is that they don't "care" how it works because there is no proof for what they claim in selling the product. In fact, there is plenty of proof of the opposite. So, instead of manning up and looking reality, logic and science straight in the eye they choose the cowardly approach by saying, "Well none of that stuff matters. I'm shooting way better with CTE." Then they go ahead and post a youtube video where they miss 11 out of 14 of practically the same shot using CTE and say they better stop embarrassing themselves.

I'm still banking on mohrt being the one to get to the bottom of the issue, pro or con, in his thread.
 
You may be right. I just haven't been able to square their departure en masse last year when the author and his wife were rabidly and vocally lambasting all doubters as being idiots unable to understand such an ethereal concept as "cte." Religious radicals make strange bedfellows. Odd, isn't it that Deano's Jackpot debacle never saw the full light of day. Odd, too that the RKC rail debacle has suffered, or benefitted from much the same denoument.

Elmer Gantry....when will the tabernacle burn to the ground?
 
Boxcar said:
"Given that uncalled for personal attack I called the number provided for Butler books and I asked them who published the book. They said that Stan was the publisher. In a sane world that would be the end of it but of course in CTE fantasy land I am still a liar and a stalker. It really is funny and sad at the same time."

Given all the blowback from the Altar Boys regarding the fact that Stan self published his new book, could it be possible that one or two or all of them may have been investors in the venture and are now, because of what appears to be a rather dismal sales record, embarrassed to admit their involvement, and are using aggressive rhetoric to camouflage the failure?
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No one cares who the publisher is other than those trying to discredit. Of course something like a 400 page book on an obscure method of aiming in pool is going to be self-published. Like that's an issue? Someone tried to insinuate that an ISBN number meant it was "official" and then it was pointed out that any author can get an isbn number.

I don't care about sales and I am pretty sure no one else does either.

The books will sell out of the first run. Calling the printer/publisher is just silliness.

Not a single one of you has ever attacked anyone else's work with such exuberance and effort. Not that I have seen.

The important point is whether the information has practical value or not. The answer is undoubtedly yes in my opinion.

People pay $100 every day millions of times a day for things with far less value. The Center to Edge system has the capability to help the user earn a lot of money far above the initial paltry investment of $100.
 

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