Something Interesting... Hustler vs TCOM

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Berts last name is not mentioned in the Hustler. Gordon is the name of the big guy that stands beside Bert when he is talking to Eddie when he goes back to Benningtons. Berts last name is Gordon in TCOM when Eddie is talking to Fats in the beginning of the book.

Also Eddie runs a poolhall but has no clue that 8 ball and 9 ball are the games that they play in tournaments today?

For inquiring minds...

JV
 
What is that post in English??? Bert Gordon is the guys name in the Hustler..And he clearly introduces himself as Bert Gordon...

In TCOM Eddie sells Booze
 
Johnny "V" said:
Berts last name is not mentioned in the Hustler. Gordon is the name of the big guy that stands beside Bert when he is talking to Eddie when he goes back to Benningtons. Berts last name is Gordon in TCOM when Eddie is talking to Fats in the beginning of the book.

Also Eddie runs a poolhall but has no clue that 8 ball and 9 ball are the games that they play in tournaments today?

For inquiring minds...

JV
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Here's the screenplay. You can look it up.


http://geocities.com/kingrr/hustler.html


Jude M. Rosenstock
 
Debra Li said:
I could have swore that in the movie "The Hustler" Eddie looks at Bert finally, and says, "Mister..."

Bert introduces himself by saying, "The name's Gordon, Bert Gordon."

To which Eddie replies..."Mister. You've been sittin' there for hours..."

Am I wrong, or are you talking about the book?
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Debra Li....what happened to your picture??? Your new icon just doesn't do you the same justice.
 
I think we should request that the board admin make answering a trivia question about "The Hustler" part of the new user sign-up procedure in order to maintain a the correct class of posters. :-)
 
I'll bite, give me a question. I've seen that movie somewhere between 200-300 times I'd guess. Quiet, like a church. yea, chuch of the good hustler.
 
Tk6

Johnny "V" said:
Berts last name is not mentioned in the Hustler. Gordon is the name of the big guy that stands beside Bert when he is talking to Eddie when he goes back to Benningtons. Berts last name is Gordon in TCOM when Eddie is talking to Fats in the beginning of the book.

Also Eddie runs a poolhall but has no clue that 8 ball and 9 ball are the games that they play in tournaments today?

For inquiring minds...

JV
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Does anyone know the meaning of Fast Eddie's tag in TCOM? (TK6)
 
satman said:
I'll bite, give me a question. I've seen that movie somewhere between 200-300 times I'd guess. Quiet, like a church. yea, chuch of the good hustler.
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Fact or Fiction:

1. Ames Billiards was an old poolroom in Times Square, New York City
2. JTS Brown is currently sold in most liquor stores
3. The Bus Depot (Port Authority Bus Terminal) is around the corner from Ames Billiards
4. Most of the poolroom scenes were filmed in a Hollywood studio.
5. Ames didn't have alcohol because until the 1990's it was illegal for a poolroom to sell alcohol in New York City
6. Ames was a second-floor poolroom because no poolroom is allowed to be at street level in New York City above 34th Street
7. Trying to get a game, Eddie offers to play someone left-handed
8. Trying to get a game, Eddie offers to play someone one-handed
9. Charlie gets half
10. The fellow Bert "bears a striking resemblance to" is the Devil

Extra Credit:
How long did Sara live in her apartment before meeting Eddie?

GL
 
PQQLk9 said:
Does anyone know the meaning of Fast Eddie's tag in TCOM? (TK6)
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Although I own the movie on DVD, I haven't seen it in some time. I seem to remember the tag changes, it's not always TK6. I seem to remember it being TK5 in one shot, then TK6 in the next. I'll have to break it out and check on that....

-djb
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
Fact or Fiction:

5. Ames didn't have alcohol because until the 1990's it was illegal for a poolroom to sell alcohol in New York City
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Not sure on the others, but on this one, it was against the Alcohol and Beverage Commission rules for any establishment in NY (not just NYC) to have more than 2 pool tables and have a liquor license. This was changed sometime in the late 90's, not sure of the exact year probably '99... So, I'd have to say fact

jaz
 
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I'll try and do this fair by answering without use of my Hustler DVD, book or Google:

1. Ames Billiards was an old poolroom in Times Square, New York City
TRUE

2. JTS Brown is currently sold in most liquor stores
FALSE

3. The Bus Depot (Port Authority Bus Terminal) is around the corner from Ames Billiards
TRUE

4. Most of the poolroom scenes were filmed in a Hollywood studio.
FALSE

5. Ames didn't have alcohol because until the 1990's it was illegal for a poolroom to sell alcohol in New York City
TRUE

6. Ames was a second-floor poolroom because no poolroom is allowed to be at street level in New York City above 34th Street
FALSE

7. Trying to get a game, Eddie offers to play someone left-handed
FALSE

8. Trying to get a game, Eddie offers to play someone one-handed
TRUE ("I'll play jack-up, one hand in my pocket")

9. Charlie gets half
FALSE (I think he gets 10%)

10. The fellow Bert "bears a striking resemblance to" is the Devil
FALSE (He's compared to a figure of Pan, not the Devil)

Extra Credit:
How long did Sara live in her apartment before meeting Eddie?
No idea - Is this in the book or the movie?
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
Fact or Fiction:

1. Ames Billiards was an old poolroom in Times Square, New York City
2. JTS Brown is currently sold in most liquor stores


Extra Credit:
How long did Sara live in her apartment before meeting Eddie?

GL
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JTS is still made by heaven hill I believe, nasty bourbon though. Not carried around where I live, but can be ordered. It is cheap though, and not worth the effort
 
answers to the questions?

Jude Rosenstock said:
Fact or Fiction:

1. Ames Billiards was an old poolroom in Times Square, New York City
2. JTS Brown is currently sold in most liquor stores
3. The Bus Depot (Port Authority Bus Terminal) is around the corner from Ames Billiards
4. Most of the poolroom scenes were filmed in a Hollywood studio.
5. Ames didn't have alcohol because until the 1990's it was illegal for a poolroom to sell alcohol in New York City
6. Ames was a second-floor poolroom because no poolroom is allowed to be at street level in New York City above 34th Street
7. Trying to get a game, Eddie offers to play someone left-handed
8. Trying to get a game, Eddie offers to play someone one-handed
9. Charlie gets half
10. The fellow Bert "bears a striking resemblance to" is the Devil
1. true
2. true
3.true
4. true
5. true
6. false { I don't know about NY laws but I'll guess}
7. false
8. true
9. false {my 25%, approximately 1500 bucks}
10. false { it's a statue of someone}
extra credit--- 3 years
Extra Credit:
How long did Sara live in her apartment before meeting Eddie?

GL
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Some of these questions with NY law involved are a guess. good questions though. Sam
 
JoeyInCali said:
Which hall of fame boxer played the subway bartender ?
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It was a bus station. Jake LaMotta
What was the bartenders name, and his only lines?
 
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The Kiss said:
What is that post in English??? Bert Gordon is the guys name in the Hustler..And he clearly introduces himself as Bert Gordon...

In TCOM Eddie sells Booze
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My comments are from the book. I know that he intros himself as bert gordon in the movie but he never mentions his last name in the book. Gordon is a guy that stands beside Bert when he tells him that they will break his thumbs.. and his arms in 2 or 3 places if he doesn't pay up. I was surprised that Walter T. used a reference from the movie as fact in TCOM.

In the book Benningtons is the name of the pool hall not Ames.

They completey rewrote the sections on Sarah in the movie. It was a little surprising. I still rate it as one of the better books I have read.

JV
 
My bad :D From the movie what is the guys name who breaks Eddies thumbs?

What other famous actor was nearly cast as Fast Eddie? and Why?

In TCOM what legendary pool player walks by right before Grady Seasons is spotted for the first time?....

Who was Fast Eddie supposed to be based on?

What famous rocker appeared in TCOM?
 
AuntyDan said:
I'll try and do this fair by answering without use of my Hustler DVD, book or Google:

1. Ames Billiards was an old poolroom in Times Square, New York City
TRUE

2. JTS Brown is currently sold in most liquor stores
FALSE

3. The Bus Depot (Port Authority Bus Terminal) is around the corner from Ames Billiards
TRUE

4. Most of the poolroom scenes were filmed in a Hollywood studio.
FALSE

5. Ames didn't have alcohol because until the 1990's it was illegal for a poolroom to sell alcohol in New York City
TRUE

6. Ames was a second-floor poolroom because no poolroom is allowed to be at street level in New York City above 34th Street
FALSE

7. Trying to get a game, Eddie offers to play someone left-handed
FALSE

8. Trying to get a game, Eddie offers to play someone one-handed
TRUE ("I'll play jack-up, one hand in my pocket")

9. Charlie gets half
FALSE (I think he gets 10%)

10. The fellow Bert "bears a striking resemblance to" is the Devil
FALSE (He's compared to a figure of Pan, not the Devil)

Extra Credit:
How long did Sara live in her apartment before meeting Eddie?
No idea - Is this in the book or the movie?
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You guys are great. Quick notes, it is true, above 34th street, you are not allowed to have a poolroom at street level. Sara lived there for 3 years as she mentions when she's gushing about how happy she is to Eddie. Oh, and Charlie gets 25%.

I actually live in the area Ames used to be though I haven't actually done the research to find out exactly which building it was in and whether the building is even still there. Port Authority Bus Terminal has had a complete make-over since the 60's and although the neighborhood looks much like what you see out of Sara's window, I can't quite make-out what street she lives on.

When the weather is better, I'll do some serious dog-walking and find out both.
 
Tcom

From the movie what is the guys name who breaks Eddies thumbs?


I know that one -- Turk. or something real close. GOing to watch TCOM now to find the others. Can't off hand think of the rocker. Famous or Semi-famous? :confused:
 
Rocker - Iggy Pop

I always imagined the license plate symbolized something about Eddie's persona.

When someone says "take five" (as in a break), Eddie, takes 6.

Eddie is always one up, or one step ahead.
 
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