azbluemach1
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What software did you use to draw the diagram? My system is similar but better, so I will save people 65$ when I give it away for free in my next thread. 

The finite, multiple coordinates HELP you to focus better and in essence help your precision in pocketing balls.
Yes it can be helping you be consistent -- consistently mediocre, perhaps?
All I'm saying is that while doing the CTE Dance may help you become and be more consistent, there may be (probably is) another PSR out there that could give you a better "consistent." Maybe one that isn't throwing your stroke out of alignmentAnd that ain't no BS.
Lou Figueroa
Honestly Joey....I am not so sure anymore lately....Here is why.
SpiderWeb's post is what made me think of this BTW.
He posted a link to a flash program that had you pick center CB......His intent (I think) was to show that most of us can not pick center CB......(the circle seemed to be the most discussed of the test)
That made me think....IF I can not routinely guess center CB to aim at my target....How can I routinely guess A-B-C pre-pivot lines. How can I guess 1/2 tip offset (of something) and how can I guess (pivot to) center CB?
most methods only require a single alignment point.
CTE requires two perspective alignment points. Then a 1/2 tip offset offset point, then a pivot to center point....so a minimum of 4 points must be accurately guessed......vs....1 point being accurately guessed.
my logic tells me that I have 3xs the chance of guessing off.
I use my "bass ackard alignment method" which (sorry Pat) is an even more stripped down alignment method then the Pat's method.....yet seems to be the most accurate alignment method I have ever tried.
Every once in a while I get an opponent ask me "what the hell are you doing" after they see me shoot....Every time I show them what I am doing they say...."damn....that works and it is easy"
I even had one guy ask if I was doing that "CTE stuff"....I laughed and said no...but it is an offshoot developed from playing around with CTE and other pivot methods.
As more and more the discussion and method of CTE gets convoluted and detailed....the more I want to strip it down and make an easy and thought free method. :wink:
Look like a whole lot of guessing going on.
Just like every other kind of aiming - I'm surprised at how widely this basic truth is misunderstood here on AzB, particularly by CTE users like you, who on other topics seem almost normal. The difference is that this method openly faces that truth with a direct, no-nonsense, no-bullshitting-yourself method to cope with the reality. And, of course, it's simple and free.
You, of course, are allowed to aim any way you wish, to pay whatever you want for the privelege, and even to act foolish on the internet about it.
pj
chgo
Lou,
CTE/Pro One doesn't throw your stroke out of alignment. LOL And that ain't no BS. Where do you come up with that stuff? Did it throw your stroke out of alignment?
JoeyA
So let me figure this out, you only missed a total of 6 shots in two tourny's? Any you are not a champion? Anyone who can shoot in the mid to high .900's should have a few titles under their belt.....
So what's wrong, did you only play 6 games, or is your math wrong, or did was this the best weekend of your life, or do you have several titles?
No, Joey, because though I tried it, I don't use it.
I tried it, BTW -- with all those pivots -- at a pool hall with a lot of mirrors and watched my stroke. I didn't like what I saw.
Lou Figueroa
I use CTE. Learned it from Stan and Hal. I also use double the distance, contact point, ghost ball and fractional ball aiming. When I'm in stroke, I don't consciously use any aiming system. CTE helped me get there.
There's alot of good info on this site. Would be better if people were less polarizing.
CTE works and Patrick's statement is correct.
And no, I'm not riding the short bus with Patrick.![]()
You sound a lot like me, except I'm not a Chevy man.
So what's wrong with riding the short bus with Professor Silky Johnson?
JoeyA
You sound a lot like me, except I'm not a Chevy man.
So what's wrong with riding the short bus with Professor Silky Johnson?
JoeyA
With your points you sound like secret CTE practitioner.
I don't need to memorize contact points (I don't even know how you'd go about that); they're just easy for me to see (after lots of practice) by looking at the OB and pocket. I don't consciously memorize anything; I just actively note the available visual clues to give my subconscious as much "reference" info as possible so it can do the memorizing. I'm not even sure "memorize" is the right word for it. But I think it's what we call "feel".PJ,
Would I be wrong to say that to use this method you would memorize half of the contact points on one side of the OB (since the other half is the mirror image)?
I don't see how that follows from that, but I believe for other reasons that it's true.You say you use your stick/tip to reference the distance to the contact point. This means you are definitely using both eyes to aim.
No, and I think I would notice.I say this because if you are using both eyes, especially on the thinner cuts, your reference points are supplied with the corresponding eye. Left eye for the left visual point and vice versa. Have you noticed this?
No, and I think I would notice.
pj
chgo
I believe my stick is always centered in my view, if that helps your understanding. I'll try to remember to look with each eye closed when I play tomorrow morning and let you know.Possibly you would notice, but not really. I don't notice when I'm aiming with my less dominant eye because I tune it out. Next time you are shooting cuts to the left and right, especially the thinner cuts, close your dominant eye and notice what you are looking at. I may have a point to make here if you try this.
Best,
Mike
I checked this today, and on every shot, thick or thin, my stick is centered in my view when I'm looking at it and the OB contact point is centered in my view when I look at it. When I'm looking at either, I'm also aware of the other in my periphery, but I'm not actually looking at it. I don't believe there's any one-eyed viewing going on, at least not in any meaningful sense.I believe my stick is always centered in my view, if that helps your understanding. I'll try to remember to look with each eye closed when I play tomorrow morning and let you know.
pj
chgo