ugotactionTX said:
there's my point, exactly!!!
"Different Kinds Of Shots" is what the gentleman wrote. rolling a ball down the table is NOT in any way, shape, or form a shot. shooting the cue ball into a object ball is a shot!
DCP
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there's my point, exactly!!!
"Different Kinds Of Shots" is what the gentleman wrote. rolling a ball down the table is NOT in any way, shape, or form a shot. shooting the cue ball into a object ball is a shot!
DCP
DrCue'sProtege said:
You've apparently never had to slow roll a ball into a lockup safety.
DrCue'sProtege said:
I think you just described most push shots.
coopdeville said:
the only way you can do that is if you hit the object ball first. and that collision impacts the speed.
sorry, we'll never agree on this one. but believe it or not, i do practice that Speed Control 1-9 Drill. dunno why, but some gentleman recommended that i work on it, so i do. but i also have my own speed control drills, ones where you shoot a shot, not just roll a ball.
DCP
Da Poet said:
Well said.
I don't understand how DCP can knock something he's never tried. It helped my game tremendously, and if he tried it, I would bet it would help his. As I stated, I also use a variation that uses the cueball shooting into the object ball each shot, which would be more to his liking, but that variation is much easier than just shooting the object balls. Then again, if all you play is 9-ball, I guess perfect speed control isn't really all that necessary.
DCP, I think you are right on this one. Speed control of the cue ball after hitting an object ball is quite a bit different from just slow rolling a ball up the table. However, I think the "ladder of balls drill" (which is probably due to several different sources), is also useful. For an article on it, see http://www.onthebreaknews.com/Jewett4.htm#June06DrCue'sProtege said:
Here's another from the BCA Instructor's manual: put the cue ball by the side pocket, and an object ball a few inches away towards the other side pocket. See how many very soft shots you can take before the object ball goes into the pocket. Four is good for beginners. You have to stipulate that the shot has to be nearly full or you can take a few hundred shots to get the object ball to the pocket.
For practice on speed on follow shots, you need to know the "six times farther" rule to see the least the cue ball can follow on a nearly full shot. See the article at http://www.sfbilliards.com/articles/2000-12.pdf
Here is a drill that requires you to get both the distance and angle right on follow shots: http://www.onthebreaknews.com/Jewett2.htm#December03
Starting on page 6 of http://www.sfbilliards.com/basics.pdf are five different levels of drills that require speed control for follow, stop (stun) and draw.
I use some of the systems that Bob Henning illustrates in his Pro Book. Most of his workouts have you making the ball then returning to the center of the table. Various angles, various directions. Follow and draw. 1 rail, 2 rails, 3 rails.
Others have you work on draw or follow shots and then extending those shots to a position with the cue ball landing in a spot further away.
I like the diagram that Franky posted, but, I would suggest going the other way also and hit the ball and follow 1 diamond, 2 diamonds, 3 diamonds, etc. This will give you speed control for those type shots.
I use the lag shot to get to know the know the speed of the table also and make others in league play learn also so when coached, you can tell them to hit the ball "about this speed". Other than that, I think that hitting off a ball is more important for cue ball control than just lagging the ball.
English on a ball has great impact on the speed of the cue ball when exiting a rail. Think about how you have hit a ball and it doesn't seem like it has enough speed on it at all to make it to the other end of the table. Then all of a sudden, the cue ball hits the rail and it takes off like a bullet. You cannot duplicate this kind of action with a lagged ball.
Coming off a ball with a shot for speed control along with lagging for speed control both have their place in the game of pool. But, I think off the ball has a greater advantage. JMO
Others have you work on draw or follow shots and then extending those shots to a position with the cue ball landing in a spot further away.
I like the diagram that Franky posted, but, I would suggest going the other way also and hit the ball and follow 1 diamond, 2 diamonds, 3 diamonds, etc. This will give you speed control for those type shots.
I use the lag shot to get to know the know the speed of the table also and make others in league play learn also so when coached, you can tell them to hit the ball "about this speed". Other than that, I think that hitting off a ball is more important for cue ball control than just lagging the ball.
English on a ball has great impact on the speed of the cue ball when exiting a rail. Think about how you have hit a ball and it doesn't seem like it has enough speed on it at all to make it to the other end of the table. Then all of a sudden, the cue ball hits the rail and it takes off like a bullet. You cannot duplicate this kind of action with a lagged ball.
Coming off a ball with a shot for speed control along with lagging for speed control both have their place in the game of pool. But, I think off the ball has a greater advantage. JMO
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desert1pocket said:
actually, if you will read through my posts, you can see that i have tried it. just dont think its very worthwhile. apparently Mr. Jewett agrees with me on this one.
and perfect speed control isnt really necessary in 9-Ball??? well, ok, if you say so..........
DCP
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When using this effective method be aware the fact that you hit the ball first or the cushion first or else it might hinder you speed control.......
Vijesh
When using this effective method be aware the fact that you hit the ball first or the cushion first or else it might hinder you speed control.......
Vijesh
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to improve slow shot speed control:
place a dollar bill (flat as possible with no rips or ridges) on the center spot with the the long edge of the bill parallel to the lag line. next take the cue ball and put it either on the footspot or the headspot.
lastly with out hitting any rails get the cue to stop and stay on the bill. BTW you get one shot at it and then you replace the cue to its original spot to shoot again
place a dollar bill (flat as possible with no rips or ridges) on the center spot with the the long edge of the bill parallel to the lag line. next take the cue ball and put it either on the footspot or the headspot.
lastly with out hitting any rails get the cue to stop and stay on the bill. BTW you get one shot at it and then you replace the cue to its original spot to shoot again