Speed Up & Improve 9 Ball Pro Game

Island Drive

Island Drive

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In the game of one pocket.... the Grady Rule is used in events.
Great Rule to Speed up tournament play.
It takes away having a large group of balls sitting at the head of the table in a pack, we call it the Varner Wedge.
Nicky even has been selling Wedge Tee Shirts.

Here's the Pro 9 Ball Meacham rule that the sport/game/pros/productions need.

Each Player Each Rack..... get's One roll out after the break when it's there turn at the table.

Now.... players will get the correct angle to break em open, and if they get hooked the can use their one roll out.
But the way it ''is'' now, they play shape for a safety, boring.
Nothing better than seeing someone go multiple rails and open up clusters and finish the rack.
 
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Island Drive said:
In the game of one pocket.... the Grady Rule is used in events.
Great Rule to Speed up tournament play.
It takes away having a large group of balls sitting at the head of the table in a pack, we call it the Varner Wedge.
Nicky even has been selling Wedge Tee Shirts.

Here's the Pro 9 Ball Meacham rule that the sport/game/pros/productions need.

Each Player Each Rack get's One roll out.

Now.... players will get the correct angle to break em open, and if they get hooked the can use their one roll out.
But the way it ''is'' now, they play shape for a safety, boring.
Nothing better than seeing someone go multiple rails and open up clusters and finish the rack.
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I don't think a tournament should be pros playing against the ghost, which is what this would amount to. We never would have realized the genius of Efren if they had played under this rule. Sorry
 
JohnnyOzone said:
I don't think a tournament should be pros playing against the ghost, which is what this would amount to. We never would have realized the genius of Efren if they had played under this rule. Sorry
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Ghost.... you lost me on that statement. zone
 
Island Drive said:
In the game of one pocket.... the Grady Rule is used in events.
Great Rule to Speed up tournament play.
It takes away having a large group of balls sitting at the head of the table in a pack, we call it the Varner Wedge.
Nicky even has been selling Wedge Tee Shirts.

Here's the Pro 9 Ball Meacham rule that the sport/game/pros/productions need.

Each Player Each Rack..... get's One roll out after the break when it's there turn at the table.

Now.... players will get the correct angle to break em open, and if they get hooked the can use their one roll out.
But the way it ''is'' now, they play shape for a safety, boring.
Nothing better than seeing someone go multiple rails and open up clusters and finish the rack.
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So you don't mean "roll out" in the traditional sense that the incoming player can shoot from where the ball lies or give it back?

If that is the case why not just play mulligans, or handspan or something?

Shotclocks are the only true way to speed up any cuegames.
 
Island Drive said:
In the game of one pocket.... the Grady Rule is used in events.
Great Rule to Speed up tournament play.
It takes away having a large group of balls sitting at the head of the table in a pack, we call it the Varner Wedge.
Nicky even has been selling Wedge Tee Shirts.

Here's the Pro 9 Ball Meacham rule that the sport/game/pros/productions need.

Each Player Each Rack..... get's One roll out after the break when it's there turn at the table.

Now.... players will get the correct angle to break em open, and if they get hooked the can use their one roll out.
But the way it ''is'' now, they play shape for a safety, boring.
Nothing better than seeing someone go multiple rails and open up clusters and finish the rack.
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I think they could improve 9B by doing 3 things.

1. Go back to 4.5" pockets
2. Set up shorter shot clocks
3. Ref racks with wood rack, if it's sluggy who cares, break harder. You can look at the rack for 15 seconds but you can't request a re-rack or bitch about it.

Watch some of the Ultimate Pool USA stuff going on now. It's pretty much 8B mixed with English black ball. The entire race to 6 is 30 minutes. 30 second shot clock in the first half. At the 15 minute mark it goes to 15 second shot clock. It's exciting and you actually get to see guys think on their feet. At pro level, sure if you give these guys a minute per shot you will see technically perfect 9B. But it's boring. 30 seconds is almost too long, but not bad. I want to see 15 seconds and lets see who rises to the top... Earl thought 12 second shot clock was ideal.

If we could have, say a race to 7 take place in 30 minutes with 4.5" pockets we would see more runout attempts, more sell outs and less safety play.

I don't really mind either way but tighter pockets makes for more strategic play and safety battles. Snooker-fied 9B is ok but it's not 9 Ball. I'm a guy who will sweat 1P matches, so I like strategic battles but with 9B I'd like to see some faster, more aggressive play.
 
Eliminate BIH, make it a 5 minute game(chess clock) and allow pushouts. There'll be more difficult shots gone at and fewer safeties.

Jaden
 
There's nothing better than watching a top player execute a shot perfectly and Have NO clue what he's gonna do. Entertainment.
And the Grady rule Works/Period.
 
alphadog said:
So you don't mean "roll out" in the traditional sense that the incoming player can shoot from where the ball lies or give it back?

If that is the case why not just play mulligans, or handspan or something?

Shotclocks are the only true way to speed up any cuegames.
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Each player when shooting is allowed 1 roll out per rack/game.
If your opponent rolls out you've got a choice.

Take the Shot.
Give the shot back.
If you take the shot and he kicks and gets a Very lucky roll and hooks you (how many times has that happened LOTS).
I call that, the ''bad beat''....
Since you have Not used your roll out yet, you may choose because of table layout to just kick at it/and save you roll out fpr later in the rack that's not runnable.

Double roll-Out
 
Thx, this match right here.... I call it.

THe... ''BAD BEAT'' Mika shoulda won, but the highlight reel cut this Most Important Shot /Miss/Luck/Hook/Mika on a three ball in the lower l/h corner.
Mika played Great that match, and was leading 10-3, then Shane made a great comeback, but missed I think? when the score was near 7-10 and luck/hooked Mika, then won thee event.
It wasn't fair in my opinion for Mika to loose this way.

Below is Highlights only UTube Match (cut it out), but if your able to watch this entire match, you'll understand why I was sad for Mika.
He didn't beat himself at all, the lucky roll on the 3 ball miss changed everything and got a very lucky hook.
below is the match I'm talking about. but they cut out over an hour of play. ugh

SHANE VAN BOENING VS MIKA IMMONEN | 2022 WORLD POOL CHAMPIONSHIP​

 
Make pro 9-ball faster::
4 simple rules::

1) non-breaker rack rack as tight or as loose as he/she wants.
2) No roll outs. Make a ball on the break and its still your turn.
3) Must hit lowest ball first or BIH to opponent.
4) 4 minute chess timer for each player.

No game can last longer than 8 minutes period.
 
Mitch I think the template is here to stay.
But....
Loser racks (tradition) races to 11 is not a bad thing at all, especially when in a pro event you have one ref racking four tables, that wastes time.

Some of the best time one can spend while racking is going over what got you in that spot.
I used to jokingly say to the racker if we were friendly ''assume the position''.
Below is what saves TIME.
Racking....
Opponents helps gathering pocketed balls while you rack.... opponent at the ''same time'' gets his break cue and is at the table right after your done.
This saves Allot of wasted time.
I've seen matches at US Open, wait 3+ minutes for the ref/rack.
 
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Jaden said:
Depends what kind of foul. a scratch in a pocket would still be bih, or perhaps in the kitchen with pushout option.
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What it was, first scratch BIH kitchen..... Second BIH anywhere, and third was Always loss of game.
 
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