Spin applied during contact

Actually the contact time is 4x as much. The ping pong ball compresses way more than a pool ball.

randyg

Makes sense, since the contact time for a tennis ball against the strings of the racket is about 4-5 ms, or about 4 times as long as the CB is in contact with the tip.
 

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You really can't go by the contact point (chalk mark) on the cb when using the swoop stroke.
I think you can if the chalk marks are in the same place and the CB hits the same target - that's the way to do the test.

The test described in the linked thread tries to control the right things but it isn't clear that was successful.

pj
chgo
 
I think you can if the chalk marks are in the same place and the CB hits the same target - that's the way to do the test.

The test described in the linked thread tries to control the right things but it isn't clear that was successful.

pj
chgo

Prolly want video, eh?
 
Ya, I was thinking he'd be needing a bit 'o luck with it. ;)

It would be funny if it were not really so sad...

that you guys even try to make this as some sort of substantive argument of some point.

Would you care to go back & see how many of my posts are made to the likes of the nature of this one.?

Example: 4 trolls make 3 posts each = 12

I respond to each & that's 12 posts by me to the likes of posts like this one of yours.

Another sad thing is that you guys think that someone is so unintelligent that they can not see what's going on.

Then... You post that you are envious for not being at the top of my list for incivility & that you must not be trying hard enough.

So... what do you then do?

Brilliant! Simply Brilliant!
 
Prolly want video, eh?
lol

I'd settle for a careful description of a careful test ensuring the same tip/CB contact point, hit point on the first rail, and speed for every counted shot.

By the way, your chalk mark from the other test was right on the miscue limit - I've overlaid a blue circle on your pic of the CB (below) to show where that is (about halfway from center to edge).

pj
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That seems outrageously high. I tried this just now on, by lining up three balls for a straight in shot, and shooting softly with lots of english. I could get the middle ball to spin a few times, while the cue ball spun for a few seconds. I lack a high speed camera to count cue ball rotations, but it seemed closer to 20 to 1 than 3 to 1.

Koehler gives figure of 4-5 degrees deviation on a bank shot from transfer of english, compared to about 45 degrees for a struck cue ball.

Are you talking about a object ball supported by others?

Thank you kindly.
Is that what you're talking about? If so, I'm sorry I misunderstood.

I'm talking about a lone OB hit by a CB at slow speed with stun and about 1/2 maximum sidespin - the conditions that maximize transfer of sidespin to an "unsupported" OB.

pj
chgo
 
I don't usually converse with people that hate me & call me an idiot.

The need will arise for you & you won't recognize it & you too will probably play safe or foul or something other than use what you've experimented with & found useful.

So in other words...no.
 
So in other words...no.

Actually I had it typed out in my reply to PJ, but decided to not post it.

I figured the likes of such mental giants should be able to figure out where their regular stroke for spin would not be sufficient & the need for more would be there....

And I gave a hint, like now.

Have YOU read the thread in the instructors forum?
 
Me too, mine was red because it was my favorite color. Now it is not.

I feel left out.

I have to thank Rick for the free advertising though.


Well, I already admitted that.



Yes, I understand that. However, if I changed the angle of the cue that much at contact, the CB would not go in the direction I was aiming it - directly across and into the diamond on the other long rail.



I got enough spin to open the angle coming off the rail more than I could with my regular stroke. That's really all I was curious about.


BTW I am really envious of you. I see that your name is now first, in a very large font, and blue to boot. I'm at the tail end of the ENGLISH! hate list. I must not be trying hard enough.:rolleyes:
 
Is that what you're talking about? If so, I'm sorry I misunderstood.

I'm talking about a lone OB hit by a CB at slow speed with stun and about 1/2 maximum sidespin - the conditions that maximize transfer of sidespin to an "unsupported" OB.

That is what I was talking about. When you try it, what are your results? If you manage 3:1 spin transfer and can get a video, I would love to see it, to figure out what I am doing wrong.

Thank you kindly.
 
You are missing the definition of trolling by a long shot. We are more like critics. I just want to know what you are talking about really.
 
I am just an average know nothing pool player with bad reading comprehension, but was an example ever posted on how the swipe stroke is necessary? This thread is reminiscent of my little sister "I could tell you but I don't even feel like it" way of arguing.
 
I am just an average know nothing pool player with bad reading comprehension, but was an example ever posted on how the swipe stroke is necessary? This thread is reminiscent of my little sister "I could tell you but I don't even feel like it" way of arguing.

Exactly my point!
 
I am just an average know nothing pool player with bad reading comprehension, but was an example ever posted on how the swipe stroke is necessary? This thread is reminiscent of my little sister "I could tell you but I don't even feel like it" way of arguing.

Reply retracted per the request of others.

Do you know what the stroke is & are you truly interested in it or are you just making a critical comment on the teeth pulling?

Have you seen the thread in the instructors forum?
 
You are missing the definition of trolling by a long shot. We are more like critics. I just want to know what you are talking about really.

I saw you read the instructors thread, so I would think that you now may know more than you did yesterday morning.

All you want is more food to troll on.

How this thread as turned is why Master BCA Instructor & Former Top 10 Female Player & near Daily Acquaintance if not friend of Earl Strickland, was reluctant to comment & get taken down into the cesspool by the typical cast of characters of AZB.

Why do you think that virtually no Pro Player posts on AZB?

She commented on explaining the true stroke & then suggested experimentation.

When does your normal stroke max out for the affects you can get for spin?

When do you need or want more?

There is not one answer for both of those questions nor is there one answer for the second question.

If you do not know the answers to those questions, then there is nothing that I could tell you that you would not troll on.

If you know the answers to those questions then you have no need for me to tell you more.
 
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