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flash5153

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I mean the markers where the balls go for 14-1. What are they?? stickers??
Where can I get them??

I thought about using a permanent markers around the rack ,,but I'm a little nervous about doing that on my new table.

It seems to me,,if anything is put in the area of the rack,,like stickers. They will effect the balls rolling,,especially since most of the play in 14-1 is done in this area.
 
flash5153 said:
I mean the markers where the balls go for 14-1. What are they?? stickers??
Where can I get them??

I thought about using a permanent markers around the rack ,,but I'm a little nervous about doing that on my new table.

It seems to me,,if anything is put in the area of the rack,,like stickers. They will effect the balls rolling,,especially since most of the play in 14-1 is done in this area.
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Use tailor's/dressmaker's chalk. You can make the lines and spots as light as you want and the chalk comes off in a couple of weeks.
 
Do not put strickers on your table. You stated the reason why.
Putting a outline of your rack with a fine tip marker is good but you have to be very careful and let it dry over night. Also, the next day brush it very lightly. Look at one of my videos. You can see the outline plus I draw the spot in also. Those spot stickers will change the direction of the balls.
Good Luck.
 
Dress makers chalk is on the list.

From looking at other tables with theses markings(where each ball sits in the rack) it does not look like chalk. But OK,,I'll give it a whirl.
Marking around the rack will help spottiing a break ball much easier.
 
A subject dear to my heart. I really like playing on a table with what I think of as the proper markings, at least fot 14.1. By this I mean:

Head string, foot string, head spot, center spot, foot spot, long string(from the center of the foot rail up to about 6 inches up table from the foot spot), and rack outline. As I remember, this was how all the tables were marked when I started playing pool(1940).

My home room has a table dedicated to 14.1 and one pocket. The owner wont put any markings on it. I have offered to do it but he wont have it.

It would also be nice to have scoring beads with all the numbered tabs in place. The wooden ones fall out and never get replaced. I bought a set of moulded plastic ones and gave them to him and even offered to do the work of putting them up(about 20 minutes I would estimate)But he procrastinates.

What the hell, it's his pool room.

Dave Nelson
 
Dave Nelson said:
A subject dear to my heart. I really like playing on a table with what I think of as the proper markings, at least fot 14.1. By this I mean:

Head string, foot string, head spot, center spot, foot spot, long string(from the center of the foot rail up to about 6 inches up table from the foot spot), and rack outline. As I remember, this was how all the tables were marked when I started playing pool(1940).

My home room has a table dedicated to 14.1 and one pocket. The owner wont put any markings on it. I have offered to do it but he wont have it.

It would also be nice to have scoring beads with all the numbered tabs in place. The wooden ones fall out and never get replaced. I bought a set of moulded plastic ones and gave them to him and even offered to do the work of putting them up(about 20 minutes I would estimate)But he procrastinates.

What the hell, it's his pool room.

Dave Nelson
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I would like to see a properly marked table. Do you have any pics of one??

I have a fine tip black sharpie,,but I am scared to mark it ,for the rack. lol I just had brand new 860 Simonis installed!!
 
Bob Jewett said:
Use tailor's/dressmaker's chalk. You can make the lines and spots as light as you want and the chalk comes off in a couple of weeks.
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Best advice-- those nice white tailor/dressmaker chalks do a good job. I just use these.
 
Well I have to disagree about putting the sticker on the foot spot. If you intend to play any 8 ball, 9 ball, or any game where you break hard, these stickers will prevent your cloth from tearing under the top ball.

Now, get some 3M spray adhesive, be sure the cloth is clean, lightly dot the center with a marker, then, away from the table.... spray the backside of the sticker, and place it over the marked spot.

Hold a ball in your hand and rub in the sticker.

This is an absolute must if you play any game other than straight pool. I'll go so far as to say that even with constant breaking in 1 pocket I'd want the sticker there protecting the cloth under the front ball.

Go to the ask the mechanic area of the forums and see what they say if you want.
 
3andstop said:
Well I have to disagree about putting the sticker on the foot spot. If you intend to play any 8 ball, 9 ball, or any game where you break hard, these stickers will prevent your cloth from tearing under the top ball.

Now, get some 3M spray adhesive, be sure the cloth is clean, lightly dot the center with a marker, then, away from the table.... spray the backside of the sticker, and place it over the marked spot.

Hold a ball in your hand and rub in the sticker.

This is an absolute must if you play any game other than straight pool. I'll go so far as to say that even with constant breaking in 1 pocket I'd want the sticker there protecting the cloth under the front ball.

Go to the ask the mechanic area of the forums and see what they say if you want.
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I don't think anyone said not to use a head spot or foot spot sticker. What I got out of it ,,was not to use stickers to mark every ball spot, like I want to do for 14-1. And this was my question.
I have seen tables (no sticker)wear a hole under the head ball from breaking. If they would have had a sticker there,,it would have helped allot.
I will sacrifice that small area for the protection.


I asked the lady at the hardware store for dressmaker chalk and just looked at me almost laughing. I said,,I'm not making a dress!!! lol
They didn't have any. I know where to go to get it,,just haven't done it yet.
 
We mark all of our 9 footers with a head string, head spot (a small cross line on the head string), rack outline and a line down from the foot spot. The players appreciate it and even ask to have it redone when it fades. Occasionally, someone even tries to do it themselves, which drives me nuts :) I use a fine point sharpie. The dress chalk sounds great to practice, and to make sure you like the lines before doing anything permanent. We always use an adhesive foot spot, but no other spots.
 
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flash5153 said:
I don't think anyone said not to use a head spot or foot spot sticker. What I got out of it ,,was not to use stickers to mark every ball spot, like I want to do for 14-1.
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Sorry, I guess I just don't get it. All the balls go behind the first one. I never suspected you meant mark every ball. :scratchhead:

Outline the rack, for the purpose of seeing if the break ball prospects are in the rack area or not. I never even heard of stickers for every ball. Why?

Guess I'm getting old. I suppose if banging 15 dents in the table is ok, then a few stickers are alright .... :sorry:
 
flash5153 said:
I mean the markers where the balls go for 14-1. What are they?? stickers??
Where can I get them??

I thought about using a permanent markers around the rack ,,but I'm a little nervous about doing that on my new table.

It seems to me,,if anything is put in the area of the rack,,like stickers. They will effect the balls rolling,,especially since most of the play in 14-1 is done in this area.
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I'm not sure exactly what you mean.
If you are talking about the normal marks drawn on a table, in addition to a head spot and a foot spot, for playing straight pool, I'm sure you can easily get some one to show you which lines to draw.

If you mean the small round stickers for each ball position in a rack, that is a different story. I believe what you are looking for comes in a sheet, in the shape of a rack. You position the sheet properly and press. When you remove the sheet the 15 round stickers stay on the table. If you look closely you can see the stickers on the table used for Bobby Chamberlain's 151 ball run.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2bYgxFsCoo
At least it looks like the stickers I'm talking about and, as you can see, Bobby isn't using any other rack. I forget what they are called and who sells them. I tried a quick search but came up empty. Hopefully some one else can help.

BTW, personally, I wouldn't use these sheets. I think the 15 round stickers would cause the same problems as putting divits in the cloth. JMHO.
 
To end the confusion. Yes,I am referring to marking where all the balls sit in the rack.

There is a reason, it is better to do this ,rather than marking where the rack sits.
 
flash5153 said:
To end the confusion. Yes,I am referring to marking where all the balls sit in the rack.

There is a reason, it is better to do this ,rather than marking where the rack sits.
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How does doing that to your table help you determine if the 15th ball lies in or out of the rack area? Makes absolutely no sense to me unless the markers are each 2 - 1/4" in diameter.

And even THEN ... all you can determine is if the 15th ball will touch a racked ball, which is in and of itself totally irrelevant. The factor is if the 15th ball will touch the outside of the rack, not the balls.

Certainly you can't be thinking this is needed to rack the balls parallel to the bottom rail. Can you? Because outlining the rack not only assures a parallel rack, but it also gives you the needed information as to whether the 15th ball will touch the outside of the rack.

IMHO this is yet another fad gimmick. Like selling snow balls to Eskimos, these companies will come up with anything to make a buck, and there is always an ass for the seat.

It's your table ... go for it.
 
3andstop said:
How does doing that to your table help you determine if the 15th ball lies in or out of the rack area? Makes absolutely no sense to me unless the markers are each 2 - 1/4" in diameter.

And even THEN ... all you can determine is if the 15th ball will touch a racked ball, which is in and of itself totally irrelevant. The factor is if the 15th ball will touch the outside of the rack, not the balls.

Certainly you can't be thinking this is needed to rack the balls parallel to the bottom rail. Can you? Because outlining the rack not only assures a parallel rack, but it also gives you the needed information as to whether the 15th ball will touch the outside of the rack.

IMHO this is yet another fad gimmick. Like selling snow balls to Eskimos, these companies will come up with anything to make a buck, and there is always an ass for the seat.

It's your table ... go for it.
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Really??

Did you read the thread? I really don't want to permanently mark where my rack goes. One reason ,for me ,on that is,,,I have several different types of racks and the are all different thicknesses of wood and different shapes.
Second ,,just for you,,,I like the look a well marked table looks,,in this manner.
I don't need 2 1/4" spots to tell where the edge of the ball is either,,thanks. And I don't dent where the balls sit.

I was simply asking how this was done. I have seen several videos of people playing 14-1 and several tables looked nice. I did a search and came up with nothing on this. Walla,,and here we are ,,,question was answered,,and now just trying to determine what ass is in what seat!!!!

I'll post some pics when I get it all marked out. This is the 14-1 forum right???:rolleyes:
 
Who said anything about permanent markers? You can use taylor's marker as was suggested, or you can go to a local welding supply store and buy some soapstone for 50 cents.

As far as different racks go, it doesn't matter, you use the line as the guide that is on the table since you are measuring the outside of the rack area, it doesn't matter. Just use the line as a guide even if it meant in a rare situation, with a rare style rack you had to move and replace the 15th ball. The line is the guide.

Now, if you like the idea of putting spots all over the table, then by all means go for it. That's an entirely different thing.

Your original post wasn't at all inferring this, rather you didn't feel comfortable about permanently marking your rack area.

Frankly, I don't care if you play connect the spot games on your table with magic marker.

Yes this is the 14.1 forum and I was merely trying to offer you a practical option for applying a spot to the foot spot to save the cloth. NEVER expecting you were looking forward to marking it all up.

Have a ball ... I sure don't care.
 
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