Stalev's Cue

It's a Russian Pyramid cue. Lay your cue on the end of the table like that and it will wobble too.
 
Doesn't matter what that guys plays with, could be a broomstick drug behind a truck for a day or two. Put a leather tip on it and he can run a hundred or two. :)
 
DTL said:
Possibly could be the old table. But your standard pool cue would likely roll one way or the other. It's a definite wobble that starts slow and rhythmically and then increasingly starts to speed up towards the end.......which makes me think it was the stick. Sort of like the physics behind a spinning top as it dies out and starts to wobble, faster and faster until it stops.
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It's a Russian pyramid cue, not a pool cue. It weights approximately 24-30oz and has a really long narrow taper all the way up to the bumper and it's very flexible. There is a brass ferrule and the typical style is having a lot of butterfly splices/points. Stalev plays pool with it because he has played so much Russian pyramid, that somehow he seems comfortable using a pyramid cue, unlike the rest of the top Russian pool player who all usually have a background in Russian pyramid, but choose a pool cue for pool.
 
I think I saw him play with a Scruggs with tape all over the handle about a decade ago.
 
Stalev used the same cue in the Kemlin Cup.
There are some Youtube vids which shown the cue abit more clearly imo
 
mjantti said:
It's a Russian pyramid cue, not a pool cue. It weights approximately 24-30oz and has a really long narrow taper all the way up to the bumper and it's very flexible. There is a brass ferrule and the typical style is having a lot of butterfly splices/points. Stalev plays pool with it because he has played so much Russian pyramid, that somehow he seems comfortable using a pyramid cue, unlike the rest of the top Russian pool player who all usually have a background in Russian pyramid, but choose a pool cue for pool.
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Yr almost right, but i wanna explain some details.
Its not a pyramid cue actually, its a "hybrid" custom cue made to fit BOTH games, thats what stalev said about. I dont know exact technical details of this cue, but im sure the weight is about 24 or less, hornbeam shaft and about 12-12.4 tip dia.
And about ferrule, only very cheap bar pyramid sticks have a brass ferrule, usually its a short plastic, no ferrule at all :) only fibre pad at the end of hornbeam shaft or it can be a crown spliced wooden ferrule (with fibre).
Here ive posted some pyramid cue examples, 10 cues and no brass ferrule :)
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=5087398&postcount=11
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=5087400&postcount=12
 
DTL said:
Stalev's 200+ ball run was recently posted in the 14.1 section. He won the lag and while he was racking the balls for his opponent I noticed something about his cue. At about 1:38 Mike Davis asks him to re-rack the balls. When he lays his cue end rail it appears to wobble back and forth, back and forth, and then finally settling. It made me wonder if this cue was using some of the new technology that the British are using......the Gravity Cue, see link below. The cue does have an appearance of a snooker-like taper to it.

Stalev's 200+ SP run link ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j8BXFhVmx8

Gravity Cue link ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6RRZYLBRag

DTL
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He either likes that design or its the same one he has had for years. I saw him with it as far back as 2007 maybe 2006 at the US Open.
 
cpcntr said:
Yr almost right, but i wanna explain some details.
Its not a pyramid cue actually, its a "hybrid" custom cue made to fit BOTH games, thats what stalev said about. I dont know exact technical details of this cue, but im sure the weight is about 24 or less, hornbeam shaft and about 12-12.4 tip dia.
And about ferrule, only very cheap bar pyramid sticks have a brass ferrule, usually its a short plastic, no ferrule at all :) only fibre pad at the end of hornbeam shaft or it can be a crown spliced wooden ferrule (with fibre).
Here ive posted some pyramid cue examples, 10 cues and no brass ferrule :)
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=5087398&postcount=11
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=5087400&postcount=12
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just to show another "hybrid" pyramid/pool cue , here is mine , unique & built for me in Kazan (by Agafonov) , a long story ;) . To be more accurate, a pool cue with pyramid cue construction, verrry unusual ...
in fact with the "regular" shaft it's 532g, with the spliced/butterfly shaft it's 568 g. the butt (macassar ebony) is much slimmer than a pool cue, feel like a snooker cue.
the taper is a pyramid taper, and there is a ferrule :)
i can fully understand why E.Stavlev plays such kind of cue. very confortable & stiff.
 

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cpcntr said:
Yr almost right, but i wanna explain some details.
Its not a pyramid cue actually, its a "hybrid" custom cue made to fit BOTH games, thats what stalev said about. I dont know exact technical details of this cue, but im sure the weight is about 24 or less, hornbeam shaft and about 12-12.4 tip dia.
And about ferrule, only very cheap bar pyramid sticks have a brass ferrule, usually its a short plastic, no ferrule at all :) only fibre pad at the end of hornbeam shaft or it can be a crown spliced wooden ferrule (with fibre).
Here ive posted some pyramid cue examples, 10 cues and no brass ferrule :)
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=5087398&postcount=11
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=5087400&postcount=12
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Thank you, this was the information I was also looking for. There are many real pyramid cues here in Finland, but hardly anyone has a pyramid/pool-hybrid cues. Usually players might have pyramid/kaisa-hybrids. Kaisa is a Finnish game played also with big carom sized balls and really tight pockets. I got myself more into kaisa cues than pyramid cues and you're perfectly right on this subject. :thumbup:
 
mjantti said:
Thank you, this was the information I was also looking for. There are many real pyramid cues here in Finland, but hardly anyone has a pyramid/pool-hybrid cues. Usually players might have pyramid/kaisa-hybrids. Kaisa is a Finnish game played also with big carom sized balls and really tight pockets. I got myself more into kaisa cues than pyramid cues and you're perfectly right on this subject. :thumbup:
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hi mjantti , could you tell us more about Kaisa cues compared to pyramid cues ? ( i must admit than Kaisa is a mystery to me, i would love to try it , ut for that i need to fly to finland :) )
 
Kaisa cues are almost identical to pyramid cues, with only exception: since the game has no caroms, or in-offs, counted (that's actually a foul to pocket a cue ball in Kaisa) their cues don't have to be flexible enough to make caroms comfortable. So Finnish players are usually looking for a stiff cue. Some pyramid players like similar cues too, but it is a matter of personal preference.
Sometimes the butt of Kaisa cue is thicker than that of a pyramid cue.
That's what I know from my fellow named Petri who plays both games :wink:
 
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