Standing on etiquette.

Jodacus

Jodacus

Shoot...don't talk
Silver Member
If the rules say sit between innings
then I sit but what about.......

Because of back problems I often
prefer to stand rather than sit between
innings. When I am straight down the
guys shot I move to a different location
asap. However, sometimes I don't realize
I'm straight down his shot until he gets down.
Maybe I'm studying a particular problem on the
table or maybe I'm studying a particular waitress.
In either case I find myself stuck, not knowing
whether to move or not. If I think he is about to
pull the trigger I freeze, if I think he will re-set
I will move.

I realize this is an opinion question, but I would
like to hear others thoughts about this.

Thanks
 
Where I learned to play, the seating wasn't very convenient. Add in the fact that I'm sitting all day for work. If I feel like standing, I'll stand. If he's thrown off because he doesn't like that I'm sitting, standing or drinking my drink, he's got bigger problems..

Just don't be swaying back and forth in his line of site and there shouldn't be a problem.
 
The same thing happens to me sometimes. At one hall I shoot at there are't always enough seats for everyone to have one. I stand most of the time, but I try to get at least 8-10ft away from the table. When I am sitting and in my opponents shot line I try not to make eye contact with him/her either. I think the standing part happens to a lot of people.
 
Jodacus said:
If the rules say sit between innings
then I sit but what about.......

Because of back problems I often
prefer to stand rather than sit between
innings. When I am straight down the
guys shot I move to a different location
asap. However, sometimes I don't realize
I'm straight down his shot until he gets down.
Maybe I'm studying a particular problem on the
table or maybe I'm studying a particular waitress.
In either case I find myself stuck, not knowing
whether to move or not. If I think he is about to
pull the trigger I freeze, if I think he will re-set
I will move.

I realize this is an opinion question, but I would
like to hear others thoughts about this.

Thanks
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Joda:

Just curious; did you use the Haiku format in your post? I'm wondering how I should accent the syllables in each sentence, to try to elucidate a haiku (poem) out of it...

All kidding aside, to answer your question, I would suggest DON'T MOVE. If he gets down on the shot and you happen to be in his line-of-sight, just freeze, don't move. That's the best courtesy you can extend. If you move out of the way when he's already down, he may accuse you of a "sharking" move.

The only time this is not applicable is if you're walking by a table, and the player happens to get down on a shot while you're passing by. In that case, keep moving -- DON'T FREEZE. (It's more distracting when something in your line of sight that was moving, suddenly stops, dead center in your view, or very prominent in the field of view.)

Others may have different input, but the above has worked well for me, and there've been no complaints.

-Sean
 
it's funny... early on I learned "don't be in the line of sight of someone who's shooting". So I spent the next few years bolting out of the way as soon as the guy gets down.

Eventually I realized that it almost sharks the player worse when someone either goes from dead still to "OMG I HAVE TO MOVE"... or else someone is walking across your shot and then suddenly freezes like a deer in headlights.

Basically, if you haven't anticipated where he'll be shooting and already moved, and he's just gotten down, you should just stay where you are, and don't stare straight at his face or the ball. I try to look elsewhere like I'm bored of watching the table and not worrying about his shot.

Standing up is fine imo, just don't be near the table and don't do it when he's fixing to fire.
 
CreeDo said:
it's funny... early on I learned "don't be in the line of sight of someone who's shooting". So I spent the next few years bolting out of the way as soon as the guy gets down.

Eventually I realized that it almost sharks the player worse when someone either goes from dead still to "OMG I HAVE TO MOVE"... or else someone is walking across your shot and then suddenly freezes like a deer in headlights.

Basically, if you haven't anticipated where he'll be shooting and already moved, and he's just gotten down, you should just stay where you are, and don't stare straight at his face or the ball. I try to look elsewhere like I'm bored of watching the table and not worrying about his shot.

Standing up is fine imo, just don't be near the table and don't do it when he's fixing to fire.
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What he said.
 
Jodacus, I think you are fine. This happens to everybody. A little dose of the Golden Rule works here - just do what you'd like your opponent to do if the roles were reversed.
 
We just try to have fun and not worry about it too much..... after all if you arent having fun playing whats the point ;) as long as the guy isn't standing behind me pushing my cue in the middle of an 8 ball shot for 100.00 it really doesn't bother me.
 
It really doesn't matter whether you're sitting or standing, so long as you're not moving around. If a chair is provided/available for the non-shooting player, you're supposed to sit. Yes, sitting can get uncomfortable and sometimes standing feels better. If you are where you're supposed to be (sitting in the chair or standing away from the table) and you happen to be in the shooters line, just stay put. If he wants you to move, he'll ask.

The whole "sit or stand" question breaks down to a matter of common courtesy. Players that move around and/or stand up while their opponent is shooting either (1) are trying to shark, or (2) just don't know better and need to be politely informed. It's the same for players that jingle coins in their pocket, grab for the pen to mark the score sheet early, or do any other actions that could distract the shooter.

Yes, I agree that some shooters need to toughen up mentally because they are too easily distracted. However, many non-shooters need to toughen up mentally and learn to be a good loser.
 
It shouldn't matter if you sit or stand, it's your preference. What does matter is that between innings you are out of the sight line of your opponent. Otherwise I think it's just better to stand in a consistent spot.
 
As long as you're not deliberately in someone's line of sight, don't worry about. Most people aren't bothered unless you're moving, in my experience.
 
Sit or stand If your directly behind to shooter you can move.

Jodacus said:
If the rules say sit between innings
then I sit but what about.......

Because of back problems I often
prefer to stand rather than sit between
innings. When I am straight down the
guys shot I move to a different location
asap. However, sometimes I don't realize
I'm straight down his shot until he gets down.
Maybe I'm studying a particular problem on the
table or maybe I'm studying a particular waitress.
In either case I find myself stuck, not knowing
whether to move or not. If I think he is about to
pull the trigger I freeze, if I think he will re-set
I will move.

I realize this is an opinion question, but I would
like to hear others thoughts about this.

Thanks
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My preference is for you to sit in the chair.
If your directly in back of me I don't care if you stand.
I have great Peripheral vision (vision beyond 180 Degrees),
So I can be distracted by any movement if not directly behind me.

When i'm focused it's like tunnel vision.
Lets face it everybody is never 100% focused,
Thats why we have rules in effect for sharking from our oponets.
 
Little money playing experience here...
All I ever asked for was a cue-length around the table...if someone would
have to move if I was froze on the rail, they shouldn't be there, that's my
space as the shooter at the table.

Any other distractions ( in the normal range, of course ) is YOUR problem.
You can find millions of reasons to miss...if you try hard enough, most of
them will disappear.
 
I stand most of the time. I try to anticipate where my opponent will be shooting and move out of the line of sight before he even gets his cue chalked. It's easier when you're playing 9 ball though. If I ever can't get out of the way for some some reason, I just freeze.
 
If the balls are all sitting nicely for my opponent then I tend to sit. If they're tied up and I know there's a good chance I'll have another visit soon, I tend to stand (but well out his way).
 
If I can move before he shoots I will, but if he is already about to shoot and I'm in the line of sight I just try to stay as still as I can.
I too have back problems and between innings I get up and stretch or walk around my area. I think this is basic and simple manners and if the guy is too sensitive then f*!# him. lol
 
jschelin99 said:
It really doesn't matter whether you're sitting or standing, so long as you're not moving around. If a chair is provided/available for the non-shooting player, you're supposed to sit. Yes, sitting can get uncomfortable and sometimes standing feels better. If you are where you're supposed to be (sitting in the chair or standing away from the table) and you happen to be in the shooters line, just stay put. If he wants you to move, he'll ask.

The whole "sit or stand" question breaks down to a matter of common courtesy. Players that move around and/or stand up while their opponent is shooting either (1) are trying to shark, or (2) just don't know better and need to be politely informed. It's the same for players that jingle coins in their pocket, grab for the pen to mark the score sheet early, or do any other actions that could distract the shooter.

Yes, I agree that some shooters need to toughen up mentally because they are too easily distracted. However, many non-shooters need to toughen up mentally and learn to be a good loser.
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Well for me, I have bad plantar fascitutus (sp?) and a ruptured disc , i stand most of the time. Never had an opponent say anything, but if he did we would probably have to take it to the TD and see what he says
poolwizard said:
If I can move before he sKhoots I will, but if he is already about to shoot and I'm in the line of sight I just try to stay as still as I can.
I too have back problems and between innings I get up and stretch or walk around my area. I think this is basic and simple manners and if the guy is too sensitive then f*!# him. lol
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Ed Zachery
 
I'm a sitter.

I always liked the coolness of Allison Fisher when she was in a match, sitting in judgment, nearly emotionless.

So I sit... and pretend I'm Allison... except for when I'm cursing or throwing a fit, or, well you know, behaving badly.

Sometimes I dress up as Allison, at home, away from the hustle and bustle of the pool room. Dutchess of Doom... yeah, that's it.




:grin:
 
But seriously, I think that someone else posted in another thread about the make-believe nature of playing in league, and imagining ourselves as Pro players... And I mean that in a good way, not with any derision. I like to 'make-believe' in that way, so I try to put myself in that scenario and mindset.

Of course, we need to always keep in mind that, in the end our league play isn't <that> important, and not to take ourselves too seriously. If someone isn't sitting, or is moving around, just take it in stride. We're playing in bars or busy pool rooms, after all. There's always going to be movement around us.
 
sfleinen said:
Joda:

Just curious; did you use the Haiku format in your post? I'm wondering how I should accent the syllables in each sentence, to try to elucidate a haiku (poem) out of it...

All kidding aside, to answer your question, I would suggest DON'T MOVE. If he gets down on the shot and you happen to be in his line-of-sight, just freeze, don't move. That's the best courtesy you can extend. If you move out of the way when he's already down, he may accuse you of a "sharking" move.

The only time this is not applicable is if you're walking by a table, and the player happens to get down on a shot while you're passing by. In that case, keep moving -- DON'T FREEZE. (It's more distracting when something in your line of sight that was moving, suddenly stops, dead center in your view, or very prominent in the field of view.)

Others may have different input, but the above has worked well for me, and there've been no complaints.

-Sean
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CreeDo said:
it's funny... early on I learned "don't be in the line of sight of someone who's shooting". So I spent the next few years bolting out of the way as soon as the guy gets down.

Eventually I realized that it almost sharks the player worse when someone either goes from dead still to "OMG I HAVE TO MOVE"... or else someone is walking across your shot and then suddenly freezes like a deer in headlights.

Basically, if you haven't anticipated where he'll be shooting and already moved, and he's just gotten down, you should just stay where you are, and don't stare straight at his face or the ball. I try to look elsewhere like I'm bored of watching the table and not worrying about his shot.

Standing up is fine imo, just don't be near the table and don't do it when he's fixing to fire.
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These two posts pretty well sum it up for me.

It always bothers me a little (I'll never show it though) when a player gets up to move out of my line of sight. It changes them from background scenery to a moving object. If you look like furniture in the background you'll never shark somebody.

Dudley
 
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