Stats -- Van Boening vs. Chohan One-Pocket Race to 24, December 2022

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Here are some results from the Shane Van Boening vs. Tony Chohan One-Pocket match played December 6-8, 2022 at Griff's Bar & Billiards in Las Vegas, Nevada. Pay-per-view live streaming was provided by Omega Billiards.

This match was a 3-day race to 24 games, with play stopping each day when the leader reached multiples of 8. The main commentator was Josh Roberts, with Omega's Steven Wyatt and Ben Sutherland assisting at times. Van Boening won the match 24-22.

Conditions
-- The conditions for this match included:
- Diamond 9-foot table, said to have corner pockets a bit under 4¼";​
- blue cloth (not sure if Simonis);​
- triangle rack;​
- rack your own with alternating breaks;​
- re-break if a ball is made on the break;​
- no shot clock;​
- loss of game for committing 3 consecutive fouls; and​
- lag for opening break on first day (won by Van Boening)​

Match results, in games (Van Boening's score first)
Day 1 -- 8 - 4​
Day 2 -- 8 - 11 (2-day total 16 - 15)​
Day 3 -- 8 - 7​
Total -- 24 - 22​

Games won by breaker
Van Boening -- 14 of 23 (61%)​
Chohan -- 13 of 23 (57%)​
Total -- 27 of 46 (59%)​

Breaks by side of table (viewing from head to foot)
Van Boening -- Broke from his right all 23 times (14 wins, 9 losses).​
Chohan -- Broke from his right 15 times (9 wins, 6 losses) and from his left 8 times (4 wins, 4 losses).​

Games won by player who scored the first point (or had it scored for him)
Van Boening -- 12 of 21 (57%)​
Chohan -- 13 of 25 (52%)​
Total -- 25 of 46 (54%)​

Scratches on the break -- One, by Chohan on Day 1

Balls made on the break -- Twice, both by Chohan in the same game (Game 44); he re-broke twice.

Three consecutive fouls -- None

Games in which the player had the lead at some point
Van Boening -- 36 games, his 24 wins plus 12 games he lost.​
Chohan -- 38 games, his 22 wins plus 16 games he lost.​

Ball counts by length of run -- The total ball counts resulted from the following runs and fouls. Counts are given for Van Boening first, then Chohan, then the total.
1 ball -- 47 times, 52 times, 99 times​
2 balls -- 9, 19, 28​
3 balls -- 8, 14, 22​
4 balls -- 9, 9, 18​
5 balls -- 6, 3, 9​
6 balls -- 3, 2, 5​
7 balls -- 2, 2, 4​
8 balls -- 7, 2, 9​
9 balls -- 0, 1, 1​
Plus balls pocketed by opponent -- 24, 25, 49​
Minus fouls -- 19, 28, 47​
TOTAL ball count -- 248, 231, 479​

Distribution of run-outs to win the games. Counts are given for Van Boening first, then Chohan, then the total.
1 ball -- 7 times, 10 times, 17 times (37% of the 46 games)​
2 balls -- 2, 4, 6​
3 balls -- 2, 3, 5​
4 balls -- 3, 1, 4​
5 balls -- 2, 1, 3​
6 balls -- 1, 0, 1​
7 balls -- 1, 0, 1​
8 or 9 balls -- 6, 3, 9 (20%)​
Average (mean) "out" run -- 3.5 balls​
Average (median) "out" run -- 2.5 balls​

Distribution of game scores. First column of counts is for games won by Van Boening, 2nd column for games won by Chohan, third column the totals:
8-(-1) -- 2, 0, 2​
8-0 -- 4, 6, 10​
8-1 -- 3, 3, 6​
8-2 -- 3, 4, 7​
8-3 -- 5, 2, 7​
8-4 -- 3, 2, 5​
8-5 -- 3, 1, 4​
8-6 -- 1, 2, 3​
8-7 -- 0, 2, 2​
Totals -- 24, 22, 46​
Average game score -- 8 - 2.3 for games won by Van Boening, 8 - 2.5 for games won by Chohan, 8 - 2.4 in total.​
Distribution of consecutive game wins, i.e., winning streaks. Counts are given for Van Boening first, then Chohan, then the total.
1 game -- 5 times, 6 times, 11 times​
2 games -- 3, 2, 5​
3 games -- 3, 2, 5​
4 games -- 1, 0, 1​
6 games -- 0, 1, 1​

Distribution of lengths of games
Under 10 minutes -- 8 games (17% of the 46 games)​
10 - 19 min. -- 15​
20 - 29 min. -- 7​
30 - 59 min. -- 11​
60+ min. -- 5 (longest 97 min., Game 33 on Day 3)​
Total -- 46​

Match length (including racking and the numerous timeouts)
Day 1 -- 4 hours, 55 minutes​
Day 2 -- 8 hours, 19 min.​
Day 3 -- 9 hours, 34 min.​
Total -- 22 hours, 48 min.​

Average minutes per game -- including timeouts (excluding timeouts, approximately)
Day 1 -- 25 (23)​
Day 2 -- 26 (24)​
Day 3 -- 38 (35)​
Total -- 30 (27)​
 
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When I started playing pool, I was a bar box 9-baller. All I wanted to play. 8-ball was even too slow. I thought 1-pocket was like watching paint dry. Now, I love that they played a 97 min game of one pocket. Such an awesome game. Especially at that level. I got the itch to play!!
 
When I started playing pool, I was a bar box 9-baller. All I wanted to play. 8-ball was even too slow. I thought 1-pocket was like watching paint dry. Now, I love that they played a 97 min game of one pocket. Such an awesome game. Especially at that level. I got the itch to play!!
Well, you could find lots of people who like one-pocket but are not fans of games going over an hour and averaging about a half hour. This match was quite similar on time measures to the Bustamante/Chohan race to 24 of 2½ years ago. Tony lost that one by the same 24-22 score, and average minutes per game each day were quite similar.

Tony's match with Bustamante was about one month after he played Filler. That one averaged about 10 minutes per game excluding timeouts! After the Filler match, Tony talked about how he "could have played 1-Pocket" (paraphrasing) instead of his more standard high-risk style. I guess he decided to "play 1-Pocket" in both the Bustamante match and this SVB match, but he came up a bit short in both.
 
Well, you could find lots of people who like one-pocket but are not fans of games going over an hour and averaging about a half hour. This match was quite similar on time measures to the Bustamante/Chohan race to 24 of 2½ years ago. Tony lost that one by the same 24-22 score, and average minutes per game each day were quite similar.
Tony's match with Bustamante was about one month after he played Filler. That one averaged about 10 minutes per game excluding timeouts! After the Filler match, Tony talked about how he "could have played 1-Pocket" (paraphrasing) instead of his more standard high-risk style. I guess he decided to "play 1-Pocket" in both the Bustamante match and this SVB match, but he came up a bit short in both.
I sure don’t want every game to go that long. One rack will take 8 minutes. The next, an hour. It’s just a really great game.
 
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Distribution of run-outs to win the games. Counts are given for Van Boening first, then Chohan, then the total.
1 ball -- 7 times, 10 times, 17 times (37% of the 46 games)2 balls -- 2, 4, 63 balls -- 2, 3, 54 balls -- 3, 1, 45 balls -- 2, 1, 36 balls -- 1, 0, 17 balls -- 1, 0, 18 or 9 balls -- 6, 3, 9 (20%)Average (mean) "out" run -- 3.5 ballsAverage (median) "out" run -- 2.5 balls
This right here is what separates the world class pool players from the one-pocket specialists: the ability to make more BIG run-outs for the win when given the opportunity.
Shane ran out 4 or more balls for the win, 13 times.
Tony only did it 5 times.
Better pool players punish your mistakes with their superior ability to run out more balls for wins.
Fedor did the same thing to Frost and Chippy.
You make an error against these world champs-- they're out:cool:
 
This right here is what separates the world class pool players from the one-pocket specialists: the ability to make more BIG run-outs for the win when given the opportunity.
Shane ran out 4 or more balls for the win, 13 times.
Tony only did it 5 times.
Better pool players punish your mistakes with their superior ability to run out more balls for wins.
Fedor did the same thing to Frost and Chippy.
It can also be looked at as SVB made fewer sell out errors. Neither has to be wrong.😉
 
This right here is what separates the world class pool players from the one-pocket specialists: the ability to make more BIG run-outs for the win when given the opportunity.
Shane ran out 4 or more balls for the win, 13 times.
Tony only did it 5 times.
Better pool players punish your mistakes with their superior ability to run out more balls for wins.
Fedor did the same thing to Frost and Chippy.
You make an error against these world champs-- they're out:cool:
And yet it didn't seem like Shane had a particularly good pocketing match this time, for him. Perhaps one example of that is that he ran 8 or 9 and out 6 times in this match (25% of his wins) compared with twice that in his match with Compton a few months ago (12 of 24, 50%).
 
It can also be looked at as SVB made fewer sell out errors. Neither has to be wrong.😉
Shane won over half his games (13 out of 24) on 4+ ball runouts lol.
Tony's was only 5 out of 22.
Shane's ability to get out given ANY OPPORTUNITY is superior to Tony's. Period.
He's a far better overall pool player than Tony, obviously.
 
And yet it didn't seem like Shane had a particularly good pocketing match this time, for him. Perhaps one example of that is that he ran 8 or 9 and out 6 times in this match (25% of his wins) compared with twice that in his match with Compton a few months ago (12 of 24, 50%).
It's almost as if he kept the match close, hmmmmm?
 
World class players playing lesser players is like watching a cat play with it's food lol.
I too will "mess" with players who have larger egos, it entertains my wife at bars:cool:
 
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World class players playing lesser players is like watching a cat play with it's food lol.
I too will "mess" with players who have larger egos, it entertains my wife at bars:cool:
Tony is 100% world class at one pocket. Shane was visibly upset and slamming his cue tip and the balls. Far from "playing" with Tony. That match could have gone either way very easily.
 
at large, great work. i would be interested in knowing who won the most games that say went over 30 minutes.
you can see why that is important.
 
at large, great work. i would be interested in knowing who won the most games that say went over 30 minutes.
you can see why that is important.
8-8 for games of 30 or more minutes.


[edited from miscount of 9-7]
 
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Here's a fuller picture of wins by each player by length of game. Counts are for SVB first, then Chohan, then the total.

Under 10 minutes -- 3, 5, 8​
10 - 19 min. -- 11, 4, 15​
20 - 29 min. -- 2, 5, 7​
30 - 59 min. -- 5, 6, 11​
60+ min. -- 3. 2, 5​
Total -- 24, 22, 46​
 
The numbers aren’t lopsided. It wasn’t a runout fest for SVB. Yes he did have more fire power, but not a lot more. The numbers suggest what the final score was-close. It was moving not “power 1P” scott frost style-which surprises me for SVB. I figured a more offensive set of data.

I didn’t watch the match. But it was close as I predicted. SVB moved great. Was more balanced that I expected. The long games show that.

Great numbers, this is a template for how pool stats should be done. What matters is all here.

Fatboy Approved
 
it shows that its an even or close to even match likely. but really not a big enough sample to determine much.
probably both luck and who got the best out of their breaks might have been the most determining factors.
 
Here's a fuller picture of wins by each player by length of game. Counts are for SVB first, then Chohan, then the total.

Under 10 minutes -- 3, 5, 8​
10 - 19 min. -- 11, 4, 15​
20 - 29 min. -- 2, 5, 7​
30 - 59 min. -- 5, 6, 11​
60+ min. -- 3. 2, 5​
Total -- 24, 22, 46​
surprising the shortest games tony won more
the longest shane won more
i would have guessed the opposite
figuring
tony wins the long moving games and shane goes 8 and out quick after a slight mistake
 
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