Stay away, this is not a Custom Huebler.
- Thread starter jmizzo
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Yes, its a production model. The model is AS-H8. Had a retail of $765.00 when originally made. Guy is Lying out of his ass in saying it was $2500. Back in that day, a $2500 Huebler was a god damn monster, and that cue doesn't fit the bill, even if it wasn't easily traced to being a production model.
Its stock in every way, unless there is something we are not seeing. The rings, points, and everything else is exactly as the stock model. I can not figure out a way that it is custom, its not listed as being a 60'' cue or anything. Im just trying to help people not make a mistake thinking its a custom, when it is not.
The funny thing is:
“this was custom made for me 25 years ago when i played in Vegas it is mint straight and ready for use or a show case it still has the first tip that came on it about 30 games played two championships won i paid 2800.00 in 1984 to have this one hand made”
By: best-buy-resale-superstore
However....
Just cause it looks like a stock cue, does not mean it wasn't "hand made" to his specifications for whatever reason and at whatever cost. It's only starting at $500, not $5k. I don't really see much ground for concern.
“this was custom made for me 25 years ago when i played in Vegas it is mint straight and ready for use or a show case it still has the first tip that came on it about 30 games played two championships won i paid 2800.00 in 1984 to have this one hand made”
By: best-buy-resale-superstore
However....
Just cause it looks like a stock cue, does not mean it wasn't "hand made" to his specifications for whatever reason and at whatever cost. It's only starting at $500, not $5k. I don't really see much ground for concern.
So what addition would have made this cue $2500? Have you seen what a $2500 Custom shop looked like? This is not it. I was just trying to help someone not get screwed by an obviously deceitful description. This cue wasn't even manufactured in the 80's as far as I know. The AS-H line was a 90's thing. I may be wrong on that part, but I am not wrong that this isn't a custom cue.
Jizzmo is right on
Not a custom in any way. Never worth or paid near $2500. Paul Huebler would never charge that much for that cue, not even to Bill Gates. The cue is probably worth $500, but the seller is asking $1500 But it Now. The reserve price is probably more than the cue should sell for.. So let the Buyer beware. Thanks to JIZZMO more will be aware.
Not a custom in any way. Never worth or paid near $2500. Paul Huebler would never charge that much for that cue, not even to Bill Gates. The cue is probably worth $500, but the seller is asking $1500 But it Now. The reserve price is probably more than the cue should sell for.. So let the Buyer beware. Thanks to JIZZMO more will be aware.
All I'm saying is you simply don't know, and have zero proof of anything. If I went to a cue builder and wanted something built to my specs that he didn't not do and I wanted it anyway, it could EASILY cost 3/4 times the retail production price and I know of plenty who have paid it in the past...many of which who wanted it to look totally stock too btw.
You're justified in being skeptical, that's fine, it's eBay after all you should be. It's just a Heubler though, he's not asking the $2k and it's not like people are knocking doors down for an over priced 'stock' appearing 20 year old cue.
A for effort, it seems like you might be a tad bit too invested in this one though, just saying.
Carry on.
The thing that strikes me as odd, and should strike anybody else as odd, is who in the hell would pay that much for a Huebler today, or in 1984? Pretty sure that in '84, $2,500 got you some very serious wood made by some pretty big hitters, and I may be wrong, but I have never considered a Huebler to be in the higher ranks of high end custom cues.
Dave
Dave
There are some Huebler Custom shops that stand on their own against anything that has ever been built (I understand I sound nuts.) The US Open cue, The Custom Opal, and others are insanely awesome. I understand that I am invested more than most, but I think its true.
They were a production cue company, but there customs are highly sought after and some have incredible work. I suggest looking at some, they are awesome. This all from a time before CNC.
They were a production cue company, but there customs are highly sought after and some have incredible work. I suggest looking at some, they are awesome. This all from a time before CNC.
1984 for 2800 Gus Szamboti would have inlaid gold, made an ivory handle, inlaid the shafts, and made the bumper from the rubber of a Rolls steering wheel. Today the cue would be worth 400k..
wow was this guy a bad investor.
JV
wow was this guy a bad investor.
JV
The funny thing is:
“this was custom made for me 25 years ago when i played in Vegas it is mint straight and ready for use or a show case it still has the first tip that came on it about 30 games played two championships won i paid 2800.00 in 1984 to have this one hand made”
By: best-buy-resale-superstore
However....
Just cause it looks like a stock cue, does not mean it wasn't "hand made" to his specifications for whatever reason and at whatever cost. It's only starting at $500, not $5k. I don't really see much ground for concern.
No actually, this is your argument as you have zero proof of anything that supports your contention that this was not custom made for the buyer at the time of purchase.
(I think I said that anyway)
"My" argument is where one would actually have facts to back it up.
I'm not sure 'cause it sure looks...." qualifies as fact.
:thumbup:
Not "Cause it looks like"
It matches the picture and description in the Blue Book exactly. It also matches the couple I have seen and held personally. Having bought, owned, and sold dozens of them (Huebler Cues), I have a good idea of what I am looking at. I AM NOT AN EXPERT THOUGH, and I am not saying that I am.
I would consider user bobalucinda (sp?) an expert. Im sure if Terry comes in, he will say the same thing. Those two are prob the most knowledgeable of forum members when it comes to Huebler Cues.
It matches the picture and description in the Blue Book exactly. It also matches the couple I have seen and held personally. Having bought, owned, and sold dozens of them (Huebler Cues), I have a good idea of what I am looking at. I AM NOT AN EXPERT THOUGH, and I am not saying that I am.
I would consider user bobalucinda (sp?) an expert. Im sure if Terry comes in, he will say the same thing. Those two are prob the most knowledgeable of forum members when it comes to Huebler Cues.
All I'm saying is you simply don't know, and have zero proof of anything. If I went to a cue builder and wanted something built to my specs that he didn't not do and I wanted it anyway, it could EASILY cost 3/4 times the retail production price and I know of plenty who have paid it in the past...many of which who wanted it to look totally stock too btw.
You're justified in being skeptical, that's fine, it's eBay after all you should be. It's just a Heubler though, he's not asking the $2k and it's not like people are knocking doors down for an over priced 'stock' appearing 20 year old cue.
A for effort, it seems like you might be a tad bit too invested in this one though, just saying.
Carry on.
look man this guy is just trying to make people aware of an obvious line of BS that the seller is adding to his description to sell his production cue as being a custom. it is NOT a custom cue just cuz the weight and length could have been changed. My car isnt a "custom Jeep" cuz i upgraded to leather seats!..........ur argument is very irritating
good post OP
Again, the guy says he had this particular one custom made for him, that is all he said. He said it cost him considerably more because he had this one made for him. Can you tell whether it was handmade for him by a picture ?
That's the bottom line, you can't. All you have is a picture and all you can base anything off is what you see in a picture AKA, "Cause it looks like."
Did he overpay? Sure,maybe.
Is he asking too much? According to typical cue values, quite possibly.
So for the last time, I can see you're very invested in this personally and I can appreciate you wanting to inform others. You have, good job. I just wouldn't go calling people outright liars without proof, but admittedly I could be the odd ball on that one.
"Nuff said there.
"Look man"....
There's an ignore button right in your CP.
Knock yourself out if you only want to hear your own opinions stated here. Otherwise this a forum, probably gonna be a lot more if you look around some.
It's a nice Hubler but it seems that the info in the add is exaggerated. Maybe the guy is telling the truth, i dont know, but if he did pay that much for it back then he made a poor choice. I like Pauls work but that cue has never been worth $2500.00 imo. Not even half that.
I'd take it for $400.00 though!
I'd take it for $400.00 though!