Stiff Like Carbon Shafts Or?

I'm so glad someone has to post how much education they have.
Your have No Idea how impressed I am with your booking.
I can see at my college level I have No way of explaining something to someone whos allot smarter than I and perceives my explanation in such a way as to not understand what I posted.

All I can say is Ditto to your post.

bye

Thanks for a good laugh at how important it is for another to tell you how educated they are.

I'm not
, I proved it, wisdom is much more educated. Huh-lol

bye
Dude your post are incoherent at best lol

I don’t give a shit what Earl Strickland or cory or any of them are doing or playing with. You aren’t them with their skill so it doesn’t matter.
 
Ok your right.
I guess me Beating Earl Strickland 4 sets of roll out nine ball at Paramount Billiards on Atlantic Blvd in 79 over seven hrs of play gives me NO right to express my Opinion of pool/ life.

I've never been great at Writing, now compared to Harriman I can spot em the 6 out on that LOL.

Hey kid give it a break. I've beat Buddy Hall, Archer, Matlock, Hopkins and on and on in Match play so, I've been in quite a different playground than yourself 1960's-2000.
Go pick on someone else your own age.
Go pick on someone that's smarter than me.
 
Dude your post are incoherent at best lol

I don’t give a shit what Earl Strickland or cory or any of them are doing or playing with. You aren’t them with their skill so it doesn’t matter.
Ok your right.
I guess me Beating Earl Strickland 4 sets of roll out nine ball at Paramount Billiards on Atlantic Blvd in 79 over seven hrs of play gives me NO right to express my Opinion of pool/ life.

I've never been great at Writing, now compared to Harriman I can spot em the 6 out on that LOL.

Hey kid give it a break. I've beat Buddy Hall, Archer, Matlock, Hopkins and on and on in Match play so, I've been in quite a different playground than yourself 1960's-2000.
Go pick on someone else your own age.
Go pick on someone that's smarter than me.
There you go! I completely understood this entire post. My State education kicking in! Winning! (Just to clarify Mr Island-almost everyone around me has better than a simple state education)

That’s a hell of a list of guys you’ve matched up with and had success. Which makes me wonder why in the hell is someone who used to play as good as you trying to cut down shafts, or whatever the hell it is you originally posted about, to get better. If what you say is true, and I assume it is, why not go with what I said and practice? You obviously have more natural talent than the rest of us, why the Cory gimmicks? If it’s just for fun then that’s cool too.
 
20 yrs of divorce....girls, now my 5th grandchild will be born in 7 mths.
The picture is from one yr ago I put her in my back yard poll bldg and started playing again.
It's allot more fun when you improve every mth, and try and understand....why the cue sticks have changed so much since the Balabuskas, Rambows and Zambobi/S. Wests came along. Varner and I battled in college, 69 IU.

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Dude your post are incoherent at best lol

I don’t give a shit what Earl Strickland or cory or any of them are doing or playing with. You aren’t them with their skill so it doesn’t matter.

Kinda harsh! This is a discussion forum. I and others somehow understood the O.P...
 
i first met Bill at the "Swank" pool hall on Roosevelt Rd in the mid-sixties, we played a couple games of straight pool and i pulled up

saw him again about 10 yrs later at 'Maries" in Chi where he beat a couple of the best players in the city like step children in short order

considering that he worked, raised a family, etc. he was one of the best

hard to say what his ceiling was
 
20 yrs of divorce....girls, now my 5th grandchild will be born in 7 mths.
The picture is from one yr ago I put her in my back yard poll bldg and started playing again.
It's allot more fun when you improve every mth, and try and understand....why the cue sticks have changed so much since the Balabuskas, Rambows and Zambobi/S. Wests came along. Varner and I battled in college, 69 IU.

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Cuesticks have changed? Yeah, maybe. There have always been "fashions" and fads in pool. When I started in 2000, everyone had whippy Meuccis. THen they switched to Predator 314, then Z, then back to 314, then extensions and then carbon.

IDK about the highest level, because I've never been there. I can only speak from my own experiences, but from those, I don't think the cues make all that much difference. They do make SOME difference. Definetly there are some bad cues out there and some that are better. The difference is minimal to someone like me and players at my level. Usually, players change cues often but their games stay the same.

You want a stiff cue, try conical. Chinese 8 ball cues are very stiff, and don't have a light front end. You can get them as short as you would want. You could try carbon too, they're not for me though. Lately I've been mostly playing for fun, and have been trying some very cheap cues that people would probably say are terrible. Cues that people have left at the poolhall and never claimed because they hated them. Flexible, bad maple, shoddy balance. Do they make a big difference? Don't notice a thing as far as run out percentage is concerned. They don't feel good when I hit the ball, but somehow the balls go in the pockets and I can shoot every shot with them.

The only thing I do know is that I can't play with carbon cues. I'd even prefer you get me a Meucci straight from the 90's, sanded down like an hour glass, which some players today would say is completely unplayable instead of the state of the art carbon. Even that old whip is by far better than a stiff cue with completely dead feeling. Whenever I play with one of those carbon cues, I feel like the ball is just "shooting" off the tip on the finesse shots. If they have a soft tip on, I can get spin on the ball, but then I can't feel anything of what is happening. Trying to slow spin is a complete nightmare, especially with a hard tip on. Every shot is a poke shot with those things and certain shots I can't really get to work properly. I can play finesse shots even with a phenolic tip, as long as the shaft is maple or ash. Since I haven't really invested in a carbon cue myself, I haven't tried full cue jump shots, but I think I might be scared to shoot those shots too, with an expensive shaft like that. No thanks.
 
Don't know what I will end up with, experimenting and learning from results helps guide me.
What will be interesting is this, when I cut down one of my ld wooden shafts 5'' and give it a go.
 
Cuesticks have changed? Yeah, maybe. There have always been "fashions" and fads in pool. When I started in 2000, everyone had whippy Meuccis. THen they switched to Predator 314, then Z, then back to 314, then extensions and then carbon.

IDK about the highest level, because I've never been there. I can only speak from my own experiences, but from those, I don't think the cues make all that much difference. They do make SOME difference. Definetly there are some bad cues out there and some that are better. The difference is minimal to someone like me and players at my level. Usually, players change cues often but their games stay the same.

You want a stiff cue, try conical. Chinese 8 ball cues are very stiff, and don't have a light front end. You can get them as short as you would want. You could try carbon too, they're not for me though. Lately I've been mostly playing for fun, and have been trying some very cheap cues that people would probably say are terrible. Cues that people have left at the poolhall and never claimed because they hated them. Flexible, bad maple, shoddy balance. Do they make a big difference? Don't notice a thing as far as run out percentage is concerned. They don't feel good when I hit the ball, but somehow the balls go in the pockets and I can shoot every shot with them.

The only thing I do know is that I can't play with carbon cues. I'd even prefer you get me a Meucci straight from the 90's, sanded down like an hour glass, which some players today would say is completely unplayable instead of the state of the art carbon. Even that old whip is by far better than a stiff cue with completely dead feeling. Whenever I play with one of those carbon cues, I feel like the ball is just "shooting" off the tip on the finesse shots. If they have a soft tip on, I can get spin on the ball, but then I can't feel anything of what is happening. Trying to slow spin is a complete nightmare, especially with a hard tip on. Every shot is a poke shot with those things and certain shots I can't really get to work properly. I can play finesse shots even with a phenolic tip, as long as the shaft is maple or ash. Since I haven't really invested in a carbon cue myself, I haven't tried full cue jump shots, but I think I might be scared to shoot those shots too, with an expensive shaft like that. No thanks.
I underlined and darkened a few of your observations. It's nice to hear certain words again, that I heard often decades ago especially. Whippy Meuccis, till he got it right, then most EVERY top pro used his cues, free of charge from Bob to any pro that used it. Fashions/fads....hummmm on tv now at times I see the Magic 8 ball again in a commercial.

Your observations that I enjoyed.

Dead feeling....just shootin' off the tip.....can't feel anything, and the slooooooooooooooow spin Nightmare.
 
Instead of sawing your shafts and adding an extension, can't you achieve the same thing by wrapping some lead tape around your shafts just above the joint? Okay, you say the extension makes the cue stiffer. I've been trying to decide whether to order a custom cue that is 60" long (30/30 split) or get a 58" cue with a mid cue extension. My feeling was that a mid cue extension would keep the cue from getting too butt heavy, but some people say the mid cue extension makes the hit feel terrible: Longer cues. I take it you would recommend getting a mid-cue extension rather than a 60" cue?
 
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When I got my new Zamboti while living in Long Beach CA 1978-9 I had it made 60 inches long.
Only because of so many people telling me over the yrs I need a longer cue (I'm 6'6'') well I got it and it wasn't for me at that time in life.
I had Stroud cut back all three shafts two inches and reinstall the ferrules, the butt was a 29''.
I ended up getting rid of the cue because the leather wrap at that time had NO tack/stick/grip at all unless the leather was hand/held/warmed up.
I used to sit in my chair during match play, and lay my Zam over my lap, so I could hold the handle with both hands to keep it warm , it was too slippery cold.
 
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