Stop cheating - it has gone on far enough!!!

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jalapus logan

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For all of you who just must win at all cost without regard to sportsmanship or honor, ovbserve the American Cue Sports League Player Rulebook:

"7.2 Violations Resulting in Fouls

(a) The shooter must remain seated while playing a shot (at least one cheek on the seat or seat pad). If a seat pad is used, it must remain flat and cover the seat of the wheelchair evenly. The seat pad cannot be bunched up on the seat straddled by the shooter with the shooter’s legs or stumps. The shooter may not sit on the wheel or armrest. The point where the shooter’s buttocks rest on the seat or seat pad must not be higher than 27 in / 68.5 cm from the surface on which the wheelchair rolls in its normal operating position."

Do you sons of *****es hear this?!?!??? It clearly states that you can not rest your stumps on a bunched up seat pad! And sweet Jesus, please adhere to the 27" buttocks rest rule! God, what bastards you guys are! I really can't believe I have to bring this up. Do not continue to shoot as if I've not noticed that you have violated a straddled seat/butt placement rule - that results in a foul and it's my turn to shoot.

Straighten up and fly right you guys...
 
jalapus logan said:
For all of you who just must win at all cost without regard to sportsmanship or honor, ovbserve the American Cue Sports League Player Rulebook:

"7.2 Violations Resulting in Fouls

(a) The shooter must remain seated while playing a shot (at least one cheek on the seat or seat pad). If a seat pad is used, it must remain flat and cover the seat of the wheelchair evenly. The seat pad cannot be bunched up on the seat straddled by the shooter with the shooter’s legs or stumps. The shooter may not sit on the wheel or armrest. The point where the shooter’s buttocks rest on the seat or seat pad must not be higher than 27 in / 68.5 cm from the surface on which the wheelchair rolls in its normal operating position."

Do you sons of *****es hear this?!?!??? It clearly states that you can not rest your stumps on a bunched up seat pad! And sweet Jesus, please adhere to the 27" buttocks rest rule! God, what bastards you guys are! I really can't believe I have to bring this up. Do not continue to shoot as if I've not noticed that you have violated a straddled seat/butt placement rule - that results in a foul and it's my turn to shoot.

Straighten up and fly right you guys...
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Well, in my defense in many matches I remain seated for nearly the whole match.:grin:

But usually if I have my cheek on the seat pad for any length of time one of the league players will steal my wallet.:mad:
 
Doesn't it also state that it is clearly the Referees responsibility to check the clearance between the cushion and the Butt?
 
There are many very competitive wheel chair players. So, some specialized sharking rules must be needed, I guess.

I have played and lost to several of these guys. Outside of leaving the rack where they can reach it, very little special accommodation for their disability comes into play.

In general-they are a big part of what is right about pool.

I know that the topic is approached in a lighthearted manner, and I'm pretty sure most of these guys would be laughing with you, about the specifics of the rule.:grin:
 
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This brings back a memory for me.
A few years ago, I agreed to referee in the Wheelchair Olympics.
I had to caution a player from my hometown.....
...he was doing wheelies in his opponent's line of sight.

Everybody needs rules or it all falls apart.
 
... and that's why I'm not a member of the ACS...





















... idiotic rules governing players' in wheelchairs. REALLY!
 
sfmc-x1 said:
... and that's why I'm not a member of the ACS...

... idiotic rules governing players' in wheelchairs. REALLY!
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Are you a member of BCAPL?

ACS follows the WPA's World Standardized Rules. So the rule in question here is actually the WPA's rules. You can find the rules here

Looks like the BCAPL rules on wheelchair play are the same and can be found here
 
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I busted a player once who was using the ass orthotics that Hank Hill used in the Lawn Mower races on King of the Hill.

I was like Really??? They will try anything to get an edge.
 
calcuttaman said:
Are you a member of BCAPL?

ACS follows the WPA's World Standardized Rules. So the rule in question here is actually the WPA's rules. You can find the rules here

Looks like the BCAPL rules on wheelchair play are the same and can be found here
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Nope.

The league I participated in doesn't recognize the BCA rulebook.

Although I'm sure every independent league follows the BCA/WPA rulebook as a guideline, with its most basic and universally known rules as gospel, the league I played for doesn't even begin to expand on rules to govern those who are limited to play from a wheelchair.

Yes, people have been stabbed in my league.
 
jalapus logan said:
For all of you who just must win at all cost without regard to sportsmanship or honor, ovbserve the American Cue Sports League Player Rulebook:

"7.2 Violations Resulting in Fouls

(a) The shooter must remain seated while playing a shot (at least one cheek on the seat or seat pad). If a seat pad is used, it must remain flat and cover the seat of the wheelchair evenly. The seat pad cannot be bunched up on the seat straddled by the shooter with the shooter’s legs or stumps. The shooter may not sit on the wheel or armrest. The point where the shooter’s buttocks rest on the seat or seat pad must not be higher than 27 in / 68.5 cm from the surface on which the wheelchair rolls in its normal operating position."

Do you sons of *****es hear this?!?!??? It clearly states that you can not rest your stumps on a bunched up seat pad! And sweet Jesus, please adhere to the 27" buttocks rest rule! God, what bastards you guys are! I really can't believe I have to bring this up. Do not continue to shoot as if I've not noticed that you have violated a straddled seat/butt placement rule - that results in a foul and it's my turn to shoot.

Straighten up and fly right you guys...
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Sorry to inject some humor into this thread but..... One of my good friends played Aaron Aragon in Reno at the Reno Open. As Aaron was about to shoot the last nine ball, my friend called the referee to complain Aaron had no feet on the ground and should forfeit the match :shocked2:. Even Aaron got a laugh out of it :rolleyes:!

Lyn :outtahere:
 
jalapus logan said:
For all of you who just must win at all cost without regard to sportsmanship or honor, ovbserve the American Cue Sports League Player Rulebook:

"7.2 Violations Resulting in Fouls

(a) The shooter must remain seated while playing a shot (at least one cheek on the seat or seat pad). If a seat pad is used, it must remain flat and cover the seat of the wheelchair evenly. The seat pad cannot be bunched up on the seat straddled by the shooter with the shooter’s legs or stumps. The shooter may not sit on the wheel or armrest. The point where the shooter’s buttocks rest on the seat or seat pad must not be higher than 27 in / 68.5 cm from the surface on which the wheelchair rolls in its normal operating position."

Do you sons of *****es hear this?!?!??? It clearly states that you can not rest your stumps on a bunched up seat pad! And sweet Jesus, please adhere to the 27" buttocks rest rule! God, what bastards you guys are! I really can't believe I have to bring this up. Do not continue to shoot as if I've not noticed that you have violated a straddled seat/butt placement rule - that results in a foul and it's my turn to shoot.

Straighten up and fly right you guys...
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Here's a good story for you.A friend of mine was playing league.(not sure what league)Anyways it must of said some where in the rules at least one foot must be on the ground at all times.He was playing a guy in a wheelchair and this individual was running out on him.His captain come over to him and said you know if you want you could call a foul on him,he dosnt have a foot on the ground.He was serious.
True story
 
sfmc-x1 said:
... Although I'm sure every independent league follows the BCA/WPA rulebook as a guideline, ...
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I've been in leagues that appeared to be solely governed by what the League President's uncle Bernie told him when he was a child. Part of the experience was learning how to play by rules that made no sense.
 
Did you think cheating was strictly an able-bodied thing? I've got bad news for you, human beings cheat in every facet of life. I agree that every cheater should be called out and embarrassed every time. Unfortunately, it does not stop other people from cheating. You might as well write: "C'mon people, quit cheating on your taxes. And your spouses."
 
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