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RichSchultz

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I aim center cue ball directly into the rail behind the object ball. Then, I shift my tip out, the amount dependent on how much I need to cut. I can also add top or bottom at that point, depending on what I want cue ball to do. Works for banks, cuts and straight shots. When kicking, I use the mirror table technique.

Am I actually doing a version of CTE?
 
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Nope, not CTE.

Looks like you have a real version of Bugs Rucker's aiming system.

Does you cue ball always have a little spin on it?

randyg
 
If you try hitting centre cue ball and your cue ball has a little side spin on it then im sorry, but it isn't controlled spin.... Its unintentional spin. Something that will catch you out on long shots without you even knowing why you missed.
 
I use top in combo with my aiming only when i want the CB to run or move. Never unintentional. I'm very good with long shots.
 
Pidge is correct.

Unintentional spin when wanting to or thinking you are hitting the center line can bite you.

It did me, when I started hitting long slow shots for one pocket.

I was dumbfounded at first until I tested & found that I was putting a hair of right on the ball.

It was a good thing in the long run though because I found the fix & that made other aspects even more consistent.

The cause was that I was not see a true straight line.

If you're interested there is a thread here By GenoMachino/Gene Albrecht that goes into the causes & fixes.

Best Wishes.
 
I took Randy's post to mean side spin, not too or bottom. If you hit with unintentional side spin you will miss more than you should as the distance increases. Maybe it isn't noticeable on a bar box or a 9 footer but it will be noticeable on larger tables and when bridging on a cushion and cueing down, for example.
 
I wish I hadn't posted. I don't mind critique, but that wasn't my intent. I was just trying to identify what my aiming method is. It works for me, so I will leave it at that.
 
RichSchultz said:
I wish I hadn't posted. I don't mind critique, but that wasn't my intent. I was just trying to identify what my aiming method is. It works for me, so I will leave it at that.
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My post was meant to help & not criticize.

As I said, I was playing fine on tight 9 ft tables, but when I started hitting those slower shots & started missing shots that I know I should not. Doubt crept in & that is not good.

So I looked for the reason & found it.

Now things are better.

If you're happy that's all that matters & YOUR method does not need any standardized name.

Call it the Sergeant Schultz's method, He sees nothing, but stays out of trouble.

Best Wishes.
 
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ENGLISH! said:
My post was meant to help & not criticize.

As I said, I was playing fine on tight 9 ft tables, but when I started hitting those slower shots & started missing shots that I know I should not. Doubt crept in & that is not good.

So I looked for the reason & found it.

Now things are better.

If you're happy that's all that matters & YOUR method does not need any standardized name.

Call it the Sergeant Schultz method, He sees nothing, but stays out of trouble.

Best Wishes.
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It actually is the Bugs Rucker method, but he did it just for banking, I think. I use it for everything but kicks.
 
RichSchultz said:
I aim center cue ball directly into the rail behind the object ball. Then, I shift my tip out, the amount dependent on how much I need to cut. I can also add top or bottom at that point, depending on what I want cue ball to do. Works for banks, cuts and straight shots. When kicking, I use the mirror table technique.

Am I actually doing a version of CTE?
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I am not quite sure if I understand you correctly?

1. Are you using english to throw the ball in?
2. Are you rotating your body out or in, depending on the shot, while still using center ball, such that an extended cue would pivot around the core of the object ball?
 
Straightpool_99 said:
I am not quite sure if I understand you correctly?

1. Are you using english to throw the ball in?
2. Are you rotating your body out or in, depending on the shot, while still using center ball, such that an extended cue would pivot around the core of the object ball?
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1. I suppose so. I've done it so long, I know how far out to move the tip. I know what you're gonna say. English can be unpredictable.
2. Imagine i approach the cue ball. I stand behind the cue ball with my legs parallel to the table, a little wider than shoulder width. Cue ball is exactly centered in the middle of my body. I get as low as I can, then aim straight into the rail behind the OB. That's when I adjust the tip. I do not adjust my body.
 
RichSchultz said:
1. I suppose so. I've done it so long, I know how far out to move the tip. I know what you're gonna say. English can be unpredictable.
2. Imagine i approach the cue ball. I stand behind the cue ball with my legs parallel to the table, a little wider than shoulder width. Cue ball is exactly centered in the middle of my body. I get as low as I can, then aim straight into the rail behind the OB. That's when I adjust the tip. I do not adjust my body.
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There is no agenda here, buddy. Not everyone is a pool instructor waiting to pounce on your every word! I just wondered what you were doing, that was all.

To answer your question: No, that is not like CTE. If it works for you, that is great. If you want to know what I think of it, you need only ask. I will not force my views on anyone who do not want them.
 
RichSchultz said:
1. I suppose so. I've done it so long, I know how far out to move the tip. I know what you're gonna say. English can be unpredictable.
2. Imagine i approach the cue ball. I stand behind the cue ball with my legs parallel to the table, a little wider than shoulder width. Cue ball is exactly centered in the middle of my body. I get as low as I can, then aim straight into the rail behind the OB. That's when I adjust the tip. I do not adjust my body.
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Oh, and since using this, I have gone from APA 4 to 6 in 9 ball...and am consistently beating 6's by a wide margin.
 
Straightpool_99 said:
There is no agenda here, buddy. Not everyone is a pool instructor waiting to pounce on your every word! I just wondered what you were doing, that was all.

To answer your question: No, that is not like CTE. If it works for you, that is great. If you want to know what I think of it, you need only ask. I will not force my views on anyone who do not want them.
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Hallelujah! Someone who gets it and understands!!! Thank you.
 
RichSchultz said:
I aim center cue ball directly into the rail behind the object ball. Then, I shift my tip out, the amount dependent on how much I need to cut. I can also add top or bottom at that point, depending on what I want cue ball to do. Works for banks, cuts and straight shots. When kicking, I use the mirror table technique.

Am I actually doing a version of CTE?
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What does "shift my tip out" mean? Does the stick remain parallel with the CB/OB line-of-centers? Does it remain pointed through the CB's center?

pj
chgo
 
Patrick Johnson said:
What does "shift my tip out" mean? Does the stick remain parallel with the CB/OB line-of-centers? Does it remain pointed through the CB's center?

pj
chgo
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I move the front end out from the center, the amount depending on how much i need to cut it. I don't adjust the butt at all..only the tip. Chalk is essential!
 
RichSchultz said:
I aim center cue ball directly into the rail behind the object ball. Then, I shift my tip out, the amount dependent on how much I need to cut. I can also add top or bottom at that point, depending on what I want cue ball to do. Works for banks, cuts and straight shots. When kicking, I use the mirror table technique.

Am I actually doing a version of CTE?
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No.
You do not start with the tip to the side of center CB and then pivot (at the stationary bridge) the tip with the butt so that the tip is now aimed at the center of the CB like with CTE.

You start with the tip at/addressed to the center of the CB, Efren often starts with the tip aimed at the base of the CB). Do you move the bridge and tip to the side to stroke before striking the CB? Or, do you move the tip and bridge to the side as you are striking the CB in one motion?

Just asking to understand.

Be well
 
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