Streaming pool camera input?

[DistinguishedBilliards]

Yes, you should be able to connect OBS to YouTube, I usually do mine to my Facebook group.
Make sure you have great Internet connection and a very decent or better Computer if you want clear HD.

 

[eastcoast_chris]

I have one of these install in my games room... cheap, works well.

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Quality is good an no-fisheye effect at all.

I have it mounted about 7' above the table... which has a perimeter light.

Give a really good overview of the table. Focuses well.

 

[DistinguishedBilliards]

I have one of these install in my games room... cheap, works well.

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Quality is good an no-fisheye effect at all.

I have it mounted about 7' above the table... which has a perimeter light.

Give a really good overview of the table. Focuses well.

What size table any samples of the video.?

 

[eastcoast_chris]

What size table any samples of the video.?

EDIT, just looked at these... FB potato vision quality .... MUCH better quality recorded to my computer.

Second video looks much better for some reason.

Not sure if this link will work... it is to a video on my Facebook wall;

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=658876642778695

This was just a test... hence the meh pool.

9ft table IFROO above and Logitech c920 from the end mixed with OBS.

Here is another one... same cameras ... different layout;

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=6051256361639755

I hadn't figure out how to dial the focus in when I made these. Much sharper imaging is possible with these relatively cheap cameras.

 

[eyesjr]

EDIT, just looked at these... FB potato vision quality .... MUCH better quality recorded to my computer.

Second video looks much better for some reason.

Not sure if this link will work... it is to a video on my Facebook wall;

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=658876642778695

This was just a test... hence the meh pool.

9ft table IFROO above and Logitech c920 from the end mixed with OBS.

Here is another one... same cameras ... different layout;

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=6051256361639755

I hadn't figure out how to dial the focus in when I made these. Much sharper imaging is possible with these relatively cheap cameras.

 

[DistinguishedBilliards]

Those look decent. I have the 920 cams too

 

[eyesjr]

+1 for FB garbage resolution. 1080 may be a limitation in terms of conversion etc. Can you see the ball numbers on your device? I may try a few of those to get different angles. Or possibly similar with higher resolution.

 

[DistinguishedBilliards]

Only on the slight side angle. How's the overhead look on its own.?

 

[eyesjr]

Only on the slight side angle. How's the overhead look on its own.?

Watching it, I notice a difference in color between the two views. What K lighting is that? 5k?

It’s almost like glare reduction would make it way sharper. But again, that’s through FB and through a screen mirror to my tv.

Find a local player in your room that knows this stuff inside and out. The learning curve is STEEP. From the camera, lens, how to get the video to your computer, how to get multiple cameras to your computer, how to mix their signals together, how to do a score board, how to stream it, etc. No bs it’s harder than learning to play pool.

I can see that for sure. I was actually thinking an led scoreboard above the table would be simpler, snazzy, and one less latent update to mess with @game time. I’m good enough to know I’m NOT good at video, but proficient with audio/mixing/recording. I have a little bit of an eye for video, but not developed.

 

[eyesjr]

For overhead on standard ceiling heights you need about a 12mm focal length. Professional and prosumer DSLR/mirrorless still cameras with a 10-18mm zoom lens are the guaranteed way to get it. Expect to pay about $500 used or $1000 new for the cheapest body and lens combo.

There might be a wide angle webcam that can do it also, but it would probably be hit or miss and you’d have to buy to try then return to amazon.

I should be able to get the overhead around 10 feet in the air, or 7-7.5 feet above the table. Given that this reduced required angle of capture, would the 10-18 still be workable? Would something else work better?

 

[iusedtoberich]

I should be able to get the overhead around 10 feet in the air, or 7-7.5 feet above the table. Given that this reduced required angle of capture, would the 10-18 still be workable? Would something else work better?

I just measured mine. From the bottom most part of the lens to the slate is 65". The lens, body, and mount then take up an additional 7" to the ceiling. I have my lens set at about 13mm.

You would be a bit higher, which is much better. I'm guessing you might be around 16mm. The further you are, the better, because the picture will be less distorted. The 10-18mm "zoom lens" is pretty much an industry standard in all the brands. It's the most common lens used for home interiors. So I'd say that's still the lens to get. You "may" get lucky and a cheap webcam will be wide enough of a lens to capture the table. I'd try that route first actually, and return to Amazon if no good.

Here is a video I shot recently. The camera got knocked out of alignment slightly. That's actually a whole other thing. Getting the camera aligned overhead is very difficult. The typical ball mount adjustments for the camera mount are not good enough. Any slight misalignment shows up easily. One day I'm going to design and 3d print a mount that will allow me to center the camera accurately.

Finally I'll mention most streams don't have this exact overhead shot. You are not really missing much if you simply don't include it. It will save you a lot of aggravation also, IMO.

 

[eyesjr]

I just measured mine. From the bottom most part of the lens to the slate is 65". The lens, body, and mount then take up an additional 7" to the ceiling. I have my lens set at about 13mm.

You would be a bit higher, which is much better. I'm guessing you might be around 16mm. The further you are, the better, because the picture will be less distorted. The 10-18mm "zoom lens" is pretty much an industry standard in all the brands. It's the most common lens used for home interiors. So I'd say that's still the lens to get. You "may" get lucky and a cheap webcam will be wide enough of a lens to capture the table. I'd try that route first actually, and return to Amazon if no good.

Here is a video I shot recently. The camera got knocked out of alignment slightly. That's actually a whole other thing. Getting the camera aligned overhead is very difficult. The typical ball mount adjustments for the camera mount are not good enough. Any slight misalignment shows up easily. One day I'm going to design and 3d print a mount that will allow me to center the camera accurately.

Finally I'll mention most streams don't have this exact overhead shot. You are not really missing much if you simply don't include it. It will save you a lot of aggravation also, IMO.

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Okay-because I’m new, I had some hypothetical thoughts, and you nailed them. I thought distance would be good, and I had hoped the adjustment increase would take away the “angle distortion” effect that I see in many overhead shoots. Like, a guy hits a ball, it looks like it’s going to miss a block, then it splits the wicket. I’ll definitely try to get the most distance I can out of the capture.

Nice points and info.

I think farther distance may intake less glare, as long as the inverse square law still applies to the electromagnetic field…

You’ve really helped a great deal, I greatly appreciate you man.

 

[eyesjr]

I just measured mine. From the bottom most part of the lens to the slate is 65". The lens, body, and mount then take up an additional 7" to the ceiling. I have my lens set at about 13mm.

You would be a bit higher, which is much better. I'm guessing you might be around 16mm. The further you are, the better, because the picture will be less distorted. The 10-18mm "zoom lens" is pretty much an industry standard in all the brands. It's the most common lens used for home interiors. So I'd say that's still the lens to get. You "may" get lucky and a cheap webcam will be wide enough of a lens to capture the table. I'd try that route first actually, and return to Amazon if no good.

Here is a video I shot recently. The camera got knocked out of alignment slightly. That's actually a whole other thing. Getting the camera aligned overhead is very difficult. The typical ball mount adjustments for the camera mount are not good enough. Any slight misalignment shows up easily. One day I'm going to design and 3d print a mount that will allow me to center the camera accurately.

Finally I'll mention most streams don't have this exact overhead shot. You are not really missing much if you simply don't include it. It will save you a lot of aggravation also, IMO.

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And “part B” lol to my response. Looks like you have a Rebel, what model is it, and can everything be controlled remote? Zoom, power on/off, F stop etc in the event I’d like to capture layouts… what all works remote on that thing?

I’m from a photographer family lol but I was the degenerate musician/pool player/day tripper lol. Everyone swore by the canons, and it appears from the info online that canon is still among the top tier of optics, while other companies like Sony and Nikon may have more features, at the expense of quality (in the same budget range). Of course 3 grand fixes it lol but that’s the budget for the whole setup currently.