Strickland in CH-Pratteln? What happened??

Vito says this is one of the BIGGEST tournaments in Europe. Earl Strickland, an American, competed in this event, February 3-6, 2005. Ralf Souquet looks like he had a good tournament.

What were the money payouts? :confused:

What's the NAME of the tournament?

Don't the European pool organizations believe in publicity? I have not found one mention of this tournament anywhere, Internet or American print media.

JAM
 
JAM said:
Vito says this is one of the BIGGEST tournaments in Europe. Earl Strickland, an American, competed in this event, February 3-6, 2005. Ralf Souquet looks like he had a good tournament.

What were the money payouts? :confused:

What's the NAME of the tournament?

Don't the European pool organizations believe in publicity? I have not found one mention of this tournament anywhere, Internet or American print media.

JAM

this is way off topic jam, but, just wondering if you were going to give the amatuer 8 ball tourney a try this weekend. i know you're a fan of 8 ball, just wondering if you'll be there.

thanks

VAP
 
It's called "The Pratteln Anniversary Tournament", held each year.

Payouts: 1 - 3.000 EUR, 2 - 2.000 EUR, 3+4 1.000 EUR each

Souquet says on his website:

"E. Strickland (USA) war wohl so sauer über das Nichterreichen der Finalrunde, dass er sich in den nächsten 2 Tagen nicht mehr blicken ließ und sogar die geplante Trickstoßvorführung sausen ließ."

means

"E. Strickland was so much angry about not reaching the final stages, that he wasn't seen for the next two days and even cancelled his scheduled trickshot show."

But it must have been one of his badest behaviour ever relating to what is said on german billard threads. But nothing detailed till now.

Earl said something there which is now a inronic quote in the swiss billard scene ...

"FLYING AROUND THE WORLD FOR NOTHING"
 
VitoCorleone said:
It's called "The Pratteln Anniversary Tournament", held each year.

Payouts: 1 - 3.000 EUR, 2 - 2.000 EUR, 3+4 1.000 EUR each

Souquet says on his website:

"E. Strickland (USA) war wohl so sauer über das Nichterreichen der Finalrunde, dass er sich in den nächsten 2 Tagen nicht mehr blicken ließ und sogar die geplante Trickstoßvorführung sausen ließ."

means

"E. Strickland was so much angry about not reaching the final stages, that he wasn't seen for the next two days and even cancelled his scheduled trickshot show."

But it must have been one of his badest behaviour ever relating to what is said on german billard threads. But nothing detailed till now.

Earl said something there which is now a inronic quote in the swiss billard scene ...

"FLYING AROUND THE WORLD FOR NOTHING"

Vito, thank you for providing the information about The Pratteln Anniversary Tournament! :)

JAM
 
What the heck is Earl doing in Pratteln playing for 3,000 euros? I'd think he could get better games around here, without the expense! :p

JAM
 
Thanks for the details

Thanks for the tournament info, shame there seems to be no coverage written native in English.

JAM - In Europe the pay-out is considered the least important statistic for a pro Pool tournament. One way to look at this is that European players are more interested in the pure sport than the money, another is that the payouts are so low it is not cosidered worth mentioning.

Of course this also makes it hard for US players to hit up visiting Euro Pros for cash games if they don't know what kind of money they've been winning ;-)
 
I went to Souquet's site and started reading some of his entries from different tournaments. He is a great player, and I'm not knocking the guy, but I did find it amusing that his descriptions of the matches he lost were usually something along the lines of "I didn't feel good. I made mistakes. The balls weren't really rolling for me. I finally lost." While his descriptions of the matches he won usually went something like, "I played way too good for my opponent and my 11-4 victory was well deserved."

I guess all players, regardless of where they live or where they're from, see their own matches the same way. :cool:
 
Jimmy M. said:
I went to Souquet's site and started reading some of his entries from different tournaments. He is a great player, and I'm not knocking the guy, but I did find it amusing that his descriptions of the matches he lost were usually something along the lines of "I didn't feel good. I made mistakes. The balls weren't really rolling for me. I finally lost." While his descriptions of the matches he won usually went something like, "I played way too good for my opponent and my 11-4 victory was well deserved."

I guess all players, regardless of where they live or where they're from, see their own matches the same way. :cool:

JimmyM,
You have posted a VERY perceptive comment. I and the other amateur pool psychologists that hang out in my basement have discussed this issue at length for a year or two now. We would actually take your thesis a little further, and say that the philosophy you describe is close to the essence of a successful pool psyche. In almost no other sport is your opponents success tied so immediately and strongly to your failure (and vice versa). When analyzing our league straight pool matches, the description is ALWAYS a litany of the mistakes you made, and of the lucky breaks your opponent received. Almost never does either player score unless it is immediately following a mistake by his opponent. When you are winning, you feel that you are skillful at running the balls, your opponent sees your run and thinks you are lucky that he let you get to the table. When you are losing, well it was your mistake that let him to the table; you still could have won except for that one little mistake or that one little unfortunate roll. I think it is all part of a successful ego-defense program that all good players should develop (ie. I'm good, he's lucky). :) :)

I also find it amusing when I hear athlete's talk like Ralf. But you know what; those kind of guys can be hard to beat (or at least it is hard to shake their confidence)!!!
 
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Well, in Souquet's case he rarely gets outplayed. He is generally considered to be as technically perfect a pool player as one can be. KNowing him ver well as I do I believe that he is being quite honest about his assessment of his matches. Ralf will be the first to admit when he lost because the other guy played that much better.

John
 
Well done

Williebetmore said:
JimmyM,
You have posted a VERY perceptive comment. I and the other amateur pool psychologists that hang out in my basement have discussed this issue at length for a year or two now. We would actually take your thesis a little further, and say that the philosophy you describe is close to the essence of a successful pool psyche. In almost no other sport is your opponents success tied so immediately and strongly to your failure (and vice versa). When analyzing our league straight pool matches, the description is ALWAYS a litany of the mistakes you made, and of the lucky breaks your opponent received. Almost never does either player score unless it is immediately following a mistake by his opponent. When you are winning, you feel that you are skillful at running the balls, your opponent sees your run and thinks you are lucky that he let you get to the table. When you are losing, well it was your mistake that let him to the table; you still could have won except for that one little mistake or that one little unfortunate roll. I think it is all part of a successful ego-defense program that all good players should develop (ie. I'm good, he's lucky). :) :)

I also find it amusing when I hear athlete's talk like Ralf. But you know what; those kind of guys can be hard to beat (or at least it is hard to shake their confidence)!!!

Good read thanks.
 
Hi everyone,

I'm a newbie, and this is my first post. Since I visited the Pratteln tournament on its final day I might have some things to report that you can't read elsewhere. First thing is that it was an invitational tournament. Players that got invited (Europe's elite + Earl Strickland) had their expenses paid for.

About the Earl incident I know only second hand. He obviously insulted his opponents, the fans and the event managers quite badly. I don't know about the details.

The final day was magnificent. I walked into the room and saw Mika, Oliver Ortmann, Django and Ralf Souquet playing next to each other on the four center stage tables. It was the first tournament of that caliber that I visited, so I was feeling quite a bit star struck at first. After some time we found a spot right behind the table that Bustamante was playing on. Last 32, race to 11. His opponent was a young German guy named Heck, and he played one heck of a game (excuse the pun :rolleyes: ). Django made a couple of uncharacteristic mistakes and suddenly found himself 10-8 behind with Heck, who had run some very composed racks earlier, to break for the match. Only then did he get nervous and missed some shots that he should have made. Django eventually took the match to hill-hill and nerved his way to a 11-10 victory.
A big surprise happened on an outside table, where Niels Feijen lost against a Swiss player who could be heard screaming "Ja!" several times (I wonder why).
Ortmann, Immonen and Souquet, as well as Chamat and Petroni on outside tables, more or less comfortably won. I witnessed some impressing and outright cruel safety play from Mika which frustrated his opponent to no end.

The match to watch in the next round certainly was Petroni vs Souquet. Unfortunately Petroni never quite found his game and couldn't capitalize on his chances. Bustamante cruised through his game against another Swiss player and (intentionally, I'm pretty sure) gifted him with a rack leading 10-3 or 10-4. Probably only he could make this gesture be in no way arrogant whatsoever. His last rack was played like an exhibition and finished with him banking the eight and simultaneously pocketing the nine with the cueball. Another big surprise happened again on an outside table where Marcus Chamat lost 10-11 against Fabio's travel partner Mauro Castriotta. (Marcus then went to the bar and showed up for some rather intoxicated (and intoxicating) trick shots after the final.)

The next round, the last 8, saw Ortmann leave the tournament when he lost against European Jr Champion Vilmos Földes who had a great day. I didn't watch the games though, but instead played on one of the outside tables against my mate. We're both relative beginners and were quite shocked to realize that Francisco Bustamante used his time out to smoke a cigarette and watch us play, if only for two minutes. Needless to say that we couldn't pot a ball. ;)

The semis were worthy of a world championship: Immonen vs Földes and Souquet against Bustamante. Immonen and Földes were red hot. After they shared the first two racks, Földes went on to run six racks, leading 7-1. Immonen stepped up, and Földes hardly saw a ball until Immonen led 9-7. Földes then took another rack, but Immonen took his next chance to seal the 11-8 victory. He played the best pool I've ever seen live (which is probably not saying much, but it impressed me incredibly much)!
Souquet vs Bustamante was a nailbiter. Bustamante got off to a good start, but Souquet hung in there and - although he didn't get the rolls - managed to keep the match reasonably close. Bustamante led 10-8 when he gave Souquet another chance. Souquet ran the rack and the next, then aced the nine and calmly ran the final rack.

Apparently this took too much concentration out of Ralf. He could never get into the game against Mika, who continued to play virtually flawless pool and went on to win comfortably 11-4, pocketing 3000 Franken. Then he threw his towel into the crowd and I caught it. :) He and other players such as Tom Storm, Chamat, Souquet and Bustamante then showed some trick shots to compensate for Earl's early departure (he had originally promised to show some of his repertoire).

Finally Mika and friends had time to pose for pictures and sign autographs (including the towel) ;)

Here's a picture of Mika, Django and me musing about how much 1500 Franken is in Dollars. Does anybody know?
 

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Thanks for a detailed info finduriel! Sounds like you had a great time. So unless someone with first hand information says otherwise I guess there's no choice but to take the story about Strickland at face value - He lost, got upset and walked out. I guess as this is an Invitational tournament he probably won't be getting invited again.
 
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