Stroke with no acceleration versus stroke with acceleration

SeniorTom said:
I ordered this device from Seyberts and it should help me with my stroke accuracy, and hopefully acceleration. I think acceleration is something you want to keep consistent and smooth.

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Problem with that thing is you have to drop your elbow to keep the cue level and avoid hitting the top/bottom. I'd rather use something like two golf tees stood on end with a small space between so the tip can move up and down freely (and it's easy to tell when you hit a tee).

pj
chgo
 
Patrick Johnson said:
Problem with that thing is you have to drop your elbow to keep the cue level and avoid hitting the top/bottom. I'd rather use something like two golf tees stood on end with a small space between so the tip can move up and down freely (and it's easy to tell when you hit a tee).

pj
chgo
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You ever try just sticking a couple inches in it?
 
if you are thinking about your stroke then you are not stroking consistently the same.
just like you dont think about your walking speed do you. it is all ingrained in rote memory.
 
The simplicity of the billiard stroke is a masterpiece of science and engineering.

Think of the cue tip as the optimal area for approximating a globally curved surface. What does that fancy math problem mean in "real world" terms?

If there any investors, it provides a theoretical limit on the maximum area at the top of a skyscraper.

Who could afford to own the largest theoretical area at its peak in the skyscraper class of buildings?

Bringing the talk back to the stroke.

What shots do you like to use to demonstrate how bad a stroke is?

I recommend the 14.1 breakshot, its a perfect stroke shot, a standard competition skill. Controlling the enhanced power needed for breaking is a tool to have in your arsenal.
 
justnum said:
The simplicity of the billiard stroke is a masterpiece of science and engineering.

Think of the cue tip as the optimal area for approximating a globally curved surface. What does that fancy math problem mean in "real world" terms?

If there any investors, it provides a theoretical limit on the maximum area at the top of a skyscraper.

Who could afford to own the largest theoretical area at its peak in the skyscraper class of buildings?

Bringing the talk back to the stroke.

What shots do you like to use to demonstrate how bad a stroke is?

I recommend the 14.1 breakshot, its a perfect stroke shot, a standard competition skill. Controlling the enhanced power needed for breaking is a tool to have in your arsenal.
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Aca...dummy.
 
Patrick Johnson said:
Problem with that thing is you have to drop your elbow to keep the cue level and avoid hitting the top/bottom. I'd rather use something like two golf tees stood on end with a small space between so the tip can move up and down freely (and it's easy to tell when you hit a tee).

pj
chgo
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Dropping your elbow….nothing wrong with that, IMO….I don’t drop it as much as Biado…
….but I would be two balls worse if I didn‘t drop it at all.
My philosophy is don’t tell your cue what to do, let it tell you what to do.
 
I haven't read the whole thread but how can you have a stroke without acceleration? Without acceleration would mean the cue never moved?
 
justnum said:
The simplicity of the billiard stroke is a masterpiece of science and engineering.

Think of the cue tip as the optimal area for approximating a globally curved surface. What does that fancy math problem mean in "real world" terms?

If there any investors, it provides a theoretical limit on the maximum area at the top of a skyscraper.

Who could afford to own the largest theoretical area at its peak in the skyscraper class of buildings?

Bringing the talk back to the stroke.

What shots do you like to use to demonstrate how bad a stroke is?

I recommend the 14.1 breakshot, its a perfect stroke shot, a standard competition skill. Controlling the enhanced power needed for breaking is a tool to have in your arsenal.
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billiard academy womens out reach where are we with that and mr
Dan Harriman?
 
TrxR said:
I haven't read the whole thread ...
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You have done the right thing. Or, failed to do the wrong thing. If the details of acceleration during the stroke are interesting to you, here is a thread that has a more useful discussion:

IS THE GOAL TO NOT SLOW DOWN AT CONTACT

you always hear to "accelerate" thru the cueball but would maintaining constant speed be ok too? i understand you do not want to de-accelarate approaching the cueball i understand finishing past the the area that was occupied by the cue ball ie "following thru" is important but does the cue...
forums.azbilliards.com
 
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TrxR said:
I haven't read the whole thread but how can you have a stroke without acceleration? Without acceleration would mean the cue never moved?
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Most physics intros start with balls with an initial velocity like launching a cannonball.

A stroke without acceleration means your cue stick is moving at cruise control. Cars have buttons to maintain constant speed, that is zero acceleration. No change in speed, its constant not arbitrary.

Acceleration is the rate of change for velocity over time. Acceleration is when you press down on a gas pedal and keep it pressed, the car goes as fast the motor can push.

It should be a law that registered vehicles top out at 65 mph to reduce accidents.
 
justnum said:
Most physics intros start with balls with an initial velocity like launching a cannonball.

A stroke without acceleration means your cue stick is moving at cruise control. Cars have buttons to maintain constant speed, that is zero acceleration. No change in speed, its constant not arbitrary.

Acceleration is the rate of change for velocity over time. Acceleration is when you press down on a gas pedal and keep it pressed, the car goes as fast the motor can push.

It should be a law that registered vehicles top out at 65 mph to reduce accidents.
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Most accidents happen below 65mph.

Acadummy. More mental masturbation was it?
 
how you accelerate and decelerate should take a back seat against why you accelerate and decelerate

once you figure out the why, you'll figure out the how

failing the above, look to emulate the top snooker pros as most still use classic fundamentals and have perfected them

the textbook for this should have Ding Junhui on the cover

I also believe that not everyone can achieve the optical body mechanics required for classic fundamentals hence the need for work arounds however most people can and seek said workarounds far too quickly
 
Black-Balled said:
Most accidents happen below 65mph.

Acadummy. More mental masturbation was it?
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Are you looking at gen pop data? Gen pop data smoothes out actual problems that can be solved.

In the youth age group speed and substances are the primary killers.
 
if you are accelerating thru the cueball you are going to not be able to judge the speed you hit it
as well as if the acceleration is minimal( meaning constant cue speed) in the area around the cueball.

and on a hard break you want all your acceleration to be complete as close to the cueball as possible.
 
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