"supposed to win"

trustyrusty

trustyrusty

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Just an observation from a local tournament last weekend....Why is it that a majority of pool players are really hung up on who is "supposed to win"? I placed a little side bet on a match taking the "dog", and when he pulled it out, all I heard is "if they played 10 more times he might win 1 more time tops".....SO?! I realize that it may possibly be chalked up to sore loserness (I know, not a word), but I won the bet...do you have to tell me I was stupid for taking the dog in the first place? lol. That's just an example. I've noticed the "supposed to win" theme throughout the poolhall when even a couple of C players are playing. So, what I'm wondering, I guess, is this just another ego/know it all (the speed of anyone who plays against anyone else) thing, or is it a nitty kinda thing (reason for not betting, unless you have the guy who's "supposed to win")? I've never really paid much attn. to it in the past, I guess this weekend made me think about it....

heck, I bet on myself, and that's one of the worst bets I can make :p
 
So, if you were going to bet every pool match, which side do you want?

trustyrusty said:
Just an observation from a local tournament last weekend....Why is it that a majority of pool players are really hung up on who is "supposed to win"? I placed a little side bet on a match taking the "dog", and when he pulled it out, all I heard is "if they played 10 more times he might win 1 more time tops".....SO?! I realize that it may possibly be chalked up to sore loserness (I know, not a word), but I won the bet...do you have to tell me I was stupid for taking the dog in the first place? lol. That's just an example. I've noticed the "supposed to win" theme throughout the poolhall when even a couple of C players are playing. So, what I'm wondering, I guess, is this just another ego/know it all (the speed of anyone who plays against anyone else) thing, or is it a nitty kinda thing (reason for not betting, unless you have the guy who's "supposed to win")? I've never really paid much attn. to it in the past, I guess this weekend made me think about it....

heck, I bet on myself, and that's one of the worst bets I can make :p
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Black-Balled said:
So, if you were going to bet every pool match, which side do you want?
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that's a BIG "if" (meaning I wouldn't), but I found it funny that the guy I bet had to tell me I was dumb for picking the winner of the bet....

This bet came about only because I wanted to see my guy pull the upset....so I guess I usually go by who I have a rooting interest in. All for fun, of course, not trying to win to feed my family.
 
Railbirds want to appear to be "in the know"...smart. You hurt his ego. I bet he also says, "I knew I was gonna miss that".
 
mosconiac said:
Railbirds want to appear to be "in the know"...smart. You hurt his ego. I bet he also says, "I knew I was gonna miss that".
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I figured as much....I got lucky ;)

I just find things like that weird since most of my betting has been on golf courses.
 
mosconiac said:
Railbirds want to appear to be "in the know"...smart. You hurt his ego. I bet he also says, "I knew I was gonna miss that".
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That s real pool-life , hrhr ^^

There are also the guys who re saying things like that after playing themselves.....and then saying: I knew it before....
Roftl !
Knowlede is the real power-- but some may perhaps should use this also :grin-square:

lg
Ingo
 
trustyrusty said:
Just an observation from a local tournament last weekend....Why is it that a majority of pool players are really hung up on who is "supposed to win"? I placed a little side bet on a match taking the "dog", and when he pulled it out, all I heard is "if they played 10 more times he might win 1 more time tops".....SO?! I realize that it may possibly be chalked up to sore loserness (I know, not a word), but I won the bet...do you have to tell me I was stupid for taking the dog in the first place? lol. That's just an example. I've noticed the "supposed to win" theme throughout the poolhall when even a couple of C players are playing. So, what I'm wondering, I guess, is this just another ego/know it all (the speed of anyone who plays against anyone else) thing, or is it a nitty kinda thing (reason for not betting, unless you have the guy who's "supposed to win")? I've never really paid much attn. to it in the past, I guess this weekend made me think about it....

heck, I bet on myself, and that's one of the worst bets I can make :p
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I wish it was warm enough to play a real sport! lol My mini tour buddy sent me some wedges you would kill for. Don White design Forged McGregors straight out of the tour van with extra extra deep/sharp grooves. It's ridiculous how much spin i can illegally put on the ball. hehe.
 
trustyrusty said:
Just an observation from a local tournament last weekend....Why is it that a majority of pool players are really hung up on who is "supposed to win"? I placed a little side bet on a match taking the "dog", and when he pulled it out, all I heard is "if they played 10 more times he might win 1 more time tops".....SO?! I realize that it may possibly be chalked up to sore loserness (I know, not a word), but I won the bet...do you have to tell me I was stupid for taking the dog in the first place? lol. That's just an example. I've noticed the "supposed to win" theme throughout the poolhall when even a couple of C players are playing. So, what I'm wondering, I guess, is this just another ego/know it all (the speed of anyone who plays against anyone else) thing, or is it a nitty kinda thing (reason for not betting, unless you have the guy who's "supposed to win")? I've never really paid much attn. to it in the past, I guess this weekend made me think about it....

heck, I bet on myself, and that's one of the worst bets I can make :p
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Perhaps he said his guy is supposed to win nine out of ten times to try to set up further betting action. Nothing wrong with that.
 
I played in a little local tournament last weekend and afterwards, heard that one of the top players -- not even the top player, lol -- the next day said something like "I (meaning him) lost that tournament", like he was "supposed" to have won it. He didn't even come in the money.

"Supposed to win" or "supposed to lose" is another reason why I don't like looking at tournament charts past my upcoming immediate match. You often see players looking at a tournament board and pointing to strong players that they would meet, if they win their next couple matches and if the strong player does too, and they already start griping that they are screwed, lol.
 
Winning

trustyrusty said:
I figured as much....I got lucky ;)

I just find things like that weird since most of my betting has been on golf courses.
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Something that has served me well thru the years in regards to playing people you are supposed to beat. Never be happy to play someone because of their lesser ability. Thinking all you need to do is hang around, play so so and the win will come. Play everyone as if they were a world beater. It is hard to bring your A game when playing less skilled players, but that is what should be done. Don't look past people. One game at a time, one match at a time.
 
If the player in your example has a 20% chance of winning, then the gambler who bets at odds of better than 4/1 is destined for success. Otherwise they are a loser, regardless of any short term fluctuations in their favor.

It really is that simple, regardless of any excuses offered.
 
I like it when the guy who is supposed to lose doesn't know it yet. that is when you will get some serious upsets.
 
Unfortunately, pool is one of the most egotistical activities. Everybody thinks they know more than they do.
 
Hussa,

no matter what skill someone has- if he really wants to increase his abilities- not matter if it s about fundamentals, expirience through tournaments or gambling- you have to set always a goal. There are sure different goals. Smaller goals which you can reach faster, bit harder goals which will take some time to reach them-and at least longer terminated goals, which will take a long time.
Furthermore you need to get rid of some attitudes- "can t play against femals, against lower level etc.--You have just to do your job at the table-nothing else. If you play a lower skilled guy-try to give him a white wash- against a equal skilled one. Play with the highest concentration you re able to pay-same against a world beater!

Problems are always "JUST CREATED BY YOURSELF" -that s a fact. So through practicing you will getting more sure about your technical abilities etc. and so you won t fear several shots anymore - etc etc.

From the point you really want to increase your game, you should start with the code "No Excuses". This already helps a ton, if you re serious about yourself!

lg, keep shooting,

Ingo
 
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