Surprises when doing work on production cues

[Joe Barringer]

You do. Look at your signature block.


The hypocrisy is astounding.

What about my signature block. There is nothing there about a cue maker. There is something about Atlas - the fake Moori manufacturers, over priced Kamui and Tiger MAP CRAP Products. Kamui is not a cue maker and neither is Tiger. Atlas is a corrupt firm once convicted and fined over $160k for selling ivory out of the USA which well know is illegal. No one we mentioned is a cue maker and if you consider Tiger, they are still crap.

The only thing "astounding" is you. Take it to your like minded buddies.

Have a nice day.

 

[pescadoman]

What about my signature block. There is nothing there about a cue maker. There is something about Atlas - the fake Moori manufacturers, over priced Kamui and Tiger MAP CRAP Products. Kamui is not a cue maker and neither is Tiger. Atlas is a corrupt firm once convicted and fined over $160k for selling ivory out of the USA which well know is illegal. No one we mentioned is a cue maker and if you consider Tiger, they are still crap.

The only thing "astounding" is you. Take it to your like minded buddies.

Have a nice day.

Speaking of corrupt.....Joe. Is this how you know about ivory being illegal to export? Also, don't you tote yourself as a "master cue builder" in your DVD's?

 

[galipeau]

Pretty sure that Tiger makes cues last time I checked.

 

[whammo57]

really????

have we gravitated to character assassination?????


Kim

 

[Joe Barringer]

Speaking of corrupt.....Joe. Is this how you know about ivory being illegal to export? Also, don't you tote yourself as a "master cue builder" in your DVD's?

Randy...

You can post all you like about all that stuff and the bottom line is we still do 7 figures annually, are very successful and sell to numerous AZers despite what you and your clown friends say, think or do.

And yes, I know a lot about ivory. In fact, we were found guilty for selling 3 ivory cues into London and basically ticketed for it as we didn't have a $75 export permit. Is that all you got?

You are still Mr. Chaos who is failed as a cue maker, as a poster to AZ, a businessman, a fisherman, an excuse maker and just one chaotic human being.

Other than that we still love you and your ilk.

BTW -- how are those shafts you're trying to sell working out for you? You know, the ones that you failed to return because you're so chaotic and gave out 27 excuses for? Are you now trying to sell them to some unsuspecting AZers? That's what I hear you guys do on here. You buy stuff, pull the best and sell the crap on AZ.

OK, I have to go now so you have fun in the pig pen. :thumbup:

 

[pescadoman]

really????

have we gravitated to character assassination?????


Kim

If you are referring to my post, it happened and it's the truth. Guy criticizes Atlas for doing the exact same thing he does. Joe has nothing to offer this forum except condescending remarks.

Think that Ivory handled cue, that he took credit for, is something HE did?

Think again.....

 

[Joe Barringer]

If you are referring to my post, it happened and it's the truth. Guy criticizes Atlas for doing the exact same thing he does. Joe has nothing to offer this forum except condescending remarks.

Think that Ivory handled cue, that he took credit for, is something HE did?

Think again.....

Yes, I personally made that handle and I have employees who work for me. We're successful. Many of you on here can't envision that because some are complete failures. Of course I'm not talking about anyone on this thread but all you millionaires and successful arm chair, beer drinking, keyboard commando's know what I mean.

And Atlas did not do the "exact same thing he does".
Atlas sold raw ivory to Japan, Germany and other countries. They were fined over $160k and investigated for over 3 years for it. They no longer sell ivory; we do.

You can post all you like about all that stuff and the bottom line is we still do 7 figures annually, are very successful and sell to numerous AZers despite what you and your clown friends say, think or do.

And yes, I know a lot about ivory. In fact, we were found guilty for selling 3 ivory cues into London and basically ticketed for it as we didn't have a $75 export permit. Is that all you got?

You are still Mr. Chaos who is failed as a cue maker, as a poster to AZ, a businessman, a fisherman, an excuse maker and just one chaotic human being.

Other than that we still love you and your ilk.

BTW -- how are those shafts you're trying to sell working out for you? You know, the ones that you failed to return because you're so chaotic and gave out 27 excuses for? Are you now trying to sell them to some unsuspecting AZers? That's what I hear you guys do on here. You buy stuff, pull the best and sell the crap on AZ.

OK, I have to go now so you have fun in the pig pen. :thumbup:

 

[pescadoman]

Randy...

You can post all you like about all that stuff and the bottom line is we still do 7 figures annually, are very successful and sell to numerous AZers despite what you and your clown friends say, think or do.

And yes, I know a lot about ivory. In fact, we were found guilty for selling 3 ivory cues into London and basically ticketed for it as we didn't have a $75 export permit. Is that all you got?

You are still Mr. Chaos who is failed as a cue maker, as a poster to AZ, a businessman, a fisherman, an excuse maker and just one chaotic human being.

Other than that we still love you and your ilk.

BTW -- how are those shafts you're trying to sell working out for you? You know, the ones that you failed to return because you're so chaotic and gave out 27 excuses for? Are you now trying to sell them to some unsuspecting AZers? That's what I hear you guys do on here. You buy stuff, pull the best and sell the crap on AZ.

OK, I have to go now so you have fun in the pig pen. :thumbup:

I used the crap you wouldn't take back as garden stakes, that isn't what I'm selling. You took back the first box of rejects and then sent me more of the same. When I called you on it , you said I was out of luck..

As always, you lie. It took you 6 mos to send me the 5000.00 worth of "shafts" and then wouldn't take back the rejects.

I accept complete responsibility for taking you at your word.

BTW, what sort of IDIOT is so cheap that he wouldn't spend "75.00" to get an ivory export license?? Did you enjoy getting raided over 75.00?

For the record, Joe can't supply shaftwood in the quantity/quality he brags about on his website, nor has he EVER sent me a receipt or invoice for the 5000.00 I sent him.

And you are saying you personally made that ivory handle and it wasn't done by another cuemaker because you were too afraid to do it???

 

[Joe Barringer]

I used the crap you wouldn't take back as garden stakes, that isn't what I'm selling. You took back the first box of rejects and then sent me more of the same. When I called you on it , you said I was out of luck..

As always, you lie. It took you 6 mos to send me the 5000.00 worth of "shafts" and then wouldn't take back the rejects.

I accept complete responsibility for taking you at your word.

BTW, what sort of IDIOT is so cheap that he wouldn't spend "75.00" to get an ivory export license?? Did you enjoy getting raided over 75.00?

For the record, Joe can't supply shaftwood in the quantity/quality he brags about on his website, nor has he EVER sent me a receipt or invoice for the 5000.00 I sent him.

And you are saying you personally made that ivory handle and it wasn't done by another cuemaker because you were too afraid to do it???

Randy, Randy, Randy....

Once again you are Mr. Chaos. You failed to return them on time. You failed to contact us. We are the successful businessman. You are Mr. Chaos. If you think posting this stuff hurts us, think again. We have our following and you perhaps look like a fool that you may be.

You failed to return the shafts on time or within a reasonable time period. Three (3) years later you woke up and are ticked off for your own stupidity and lack of business ethics. Don't fault us for your failures.

We can supply more shafts to anyone who needs them. We put you off because we could. Our inventory that year was running low due to increased sales. That's success -- something you don't know the meaning of.

And yes Randy, I made that front. I wouldn't trust my employees to make that nor would I give anyone that responsibility with such a costly piece of ivory but I don't expect you to understand that either.

What else do you have to say Mr. Chaos?


BTW...
Here's the company you highly tout as reputable and outstanding citizens of the Billiard Community who were hammered for Illegal Ivory.

 

[pescadoman]

As you know, I was refused return long before it was unreasonable. I don't know what point there is talking to you, as....well...it's pretty clear now isn't it?

I'm not sure why such a successful businessman has to bother trying to put me down, especially if what I say doesn't matter?

You've accused me of lying, stealing, drug and alcohol abuse, failure as a human being, cuemaker and businessman....the list of dribble goes on.

None of what you say really bothers me at all. Seriously, what is there about you to admire that could possibly be deemed worth of any self reflection on my part?

You've never been very nice to anyone on this forum and constantly talk about the stupidity of everyone on here. This begs the question...why are you here?

The sad sad reality Joe, is that this gives you pleasure. The personal attacks that you think bother others them makes you happy. Seems apparent that the few minutes you smile over your keyboard are the only joyous ones in your "affluent" life. It makes me feel sorry for you Joe....it truly does.

Sincerely,
Capt. Chaos

 

[JoeyInCali]

AZB must be the only place where paying advertisers get constanly disparaged by someone not paying a dime to advertise .
I'm surprised they have not threatened to pull their banners out.

 

[Joe Barringer]

As you know, I was refused return long before it was unreasonable. I don't know what point there is talking to you, as....well...it's pretty clear now isn't it?

I'm not sure why such a successful businessman has to bother trying to put me down, especially if what I say doesn't matter?

You've accused me of lying, stealing, drug and alcohol abuse, failure as a human being, cuemaker and businessman....the list of dribble goes on.

Show me where Barringer said you stole, lied, did drugs and/or alcohol abuse.

None of what you say really bothers me at all. Seriously, what is there about you to admire that could possibly be deemed worth of any self reflection on my part?

You've never been very nice to anyone on this forum and constantly talk about the stupidity of everyone on here. This begs the question...why are you here?

The sad sad reality Joe, is that this gives you pleasure. The personal attacks that you think bother others them makes you happy. Seems apparent that the few minutes you smile over your keyboard are the only joyous ones in your "affluent" life. It makes me feel sorry for you Joe....it truly does.

Sincerely,
Capt. Chaos

"Dribble" is what a baby does. I believe you meant to say 'drivel' which is nonsense talk. I'm always happy to educate people so that they don't make fools of themselves.

I would never stop anyone from returning anything purchased from us but there is a limit. When that party falls off the planet and doesn't return phone calls nor reply to emails there is nothing we can do at that point to assist them. You admitted you were out on a fishing boat for weeks at a time. Therefore, I'm not your baby sitter. You then bring this to the public 3 years later for your failure to conduct business in a timely and business like manner. I'm sorry, this deal was over 3 years ago.

As far as personal attacks. You decided to launder your dirty laundry like a wash woman in a laundromat. I don't start anything. I'm not the one who looks up ancient history on people and publishes mug shots. You've got to be kidding. Do you expect me to sit idly by. You got the wrong guy dude. Additionally, you did receive phenolic from us which you did not pay for. I chased you 3 years ago to no avail; I gave up as you probably needed the money more than me. I don't know what you were doing, why you were doing it but i'm happy to see you're back here and well again. Best of luck to you.

You know as well as I do that I have a sense of humor same as you do. In fact, I called you Mr. Chaos and you signed your posts as such. I even like your recent claim to fame naming yourself Capt. Chaos. I think that's more fitting.

I don't call anyone on here stupid. To the contrary, this is one intelligent place to hang out and learn from all the arm chair experts. I've even learned things on here.

And it is a crying shame how manufacturers get ripped apart in the main forum. It is surprising that they don't pull their banners but intelligent businessmen know that even negative publicity brings business to them. Of course many less informed individuals don't know this.

Ok , time to sign off. Have a great evening.

 

[Joe Barringer]

double post

 

[JoeyInCali]

Gotta admire the twisted wisdom.
Lol
That justifies free-loading, I bet.
While disparaging the advertisers. Lol

 

[Joe Barringer]

More drivel...

Can you imagine someone having 20,000 posts over the period of 139 months which equates to posting 5 times a day each and every day (Saturday, Sundays and Holidays) for 11+ years. That means they have to participate in every topic that they are posting in to keep up and be able to post on average 5 times a day.

I think it's wonderful that someone could have that much free time each and every day.

 

[JoeyInCali]

Let's all free-load and disparage the banner buyers. How cheap can one well-informed businessman be and not be a gold member here ?

Kinda funny that someone has multiple aliases here and constantly monitors this forum claims he's too busy with his lovely life.
Hell, he replied to his own old post from an old handle.

When someone says bad stuff about him, it's bashing.
When he does it, it's good advertising. Lol

 

[pescadoman]

"Dribble" is what a baby does. I believe you meant to say 'drivel' which is nonsense talk. I'm always happy to educate people so that they don't make fools of themselves.

I would never stop anyone from returning anything purchased from us but there is a limit. When that party falls off the planet and doesn't return phone calls nor reply to emails there is nothing we can do at that point to assist them. You admitted you were out on a fishing boat for weeks at a time. Therefore, I'm not your baby sitter. You then bring this to the public 3 years later for your failure to conduct business in a timely and business like manner. I'm sorry, this deal was over 3 years ago.

As far as personal attacks. You decided to launder your dirty laundry like a wash woman in a laundromat. I don't start anything. I'm not the one who looks up ancient history on people and publishes mug shots. You've got to be kidding. Do you expect me to sit idly by. You got the wrong guy dude. Additionally, you did receive phenolic from us which you did not pay for. I chased you 3 years ago to no avail; I gave up as you probably needed the money more than me. I don't know what you were doing, why you were doing it but i'm happy to see you're back here and well again. Best of luck to you.

You know as well as I do that I have a sense of humor same as you do. In fact, I called you Mr. Chaos and you signed your posts as such. I even like your recent claim to fame naming yourself Capt. Chaos. I think that's more fitting.

I don't call anyone on here stupid. To the contrary, this is one intelligent place to hang out and learn from all the arm chair experts. I've even learned things on here.

And it is a crying shame how manufacturers get ripped apart in the main forum. It is surprising that they don't pull their banners but intelligent businessmen know that even negative publicity brings business to them. Of course many less informed individuals don't know this.

Ok , time to sign off. Have a great evening.

The thread was deleted you sad sad man...... Like I said "sir"(joke), I tried to get resolution after you sent me the rejects for the rejects. When you said "go pound sand" is when I gave up. Is it unreasonable for me to try and warn others about your treachery?

Your arrogance has no bounds, as does your illusion of the truth. What I said is what happened. Maybe you are the one who needs to sober up? Look forward to next morning when you can have your 5 minutes of happiness replying, in a vision of self righteousness, in what can only be considered by a reasonable person as....bullshit.

BTW. You are my dirty laundry....that is correct. As if I were a "baby"... my soiled diapers are liken to you...... best thrown away..

 

[pescadoman]

"Dribble" is what a baby does. I believe you meant to say 'drivel' which is nonsense talk. I'm always happy to educate people so that they don't make fools of themselves.

I would never stop anyone from returning anything purchased from us but there is a limit. When that party falls off the planet and doesn't return phone calls nor reply to emails there is nothing we can do at that point to assist them. You admitted you were out on a fishing boat for weeks at a time. Therefore, I'm not your baby sitter. You then bring this to the public 3 years later for your failure to conduct business in a timely and business like manner. I'm sorry, this deal was over 3 years ago.

As far as personal attacks. You decided to launder your dirty laundry like a wash woman in a laundromat. I don't start anything. I'm not the one who looks up ancient history on people and publishes mug shots. You've got to be kidding. Do you expect me to sit idly by. You got the wrong guy dude. Additionally, you did receive phenolic from us which you did not pay for. I chased you 3 years ago to no avail; I gave up as you probably needed the money more than me. I don't know what you were doing, why you were doing it but i'm happy to see you're back here and well again. Best of luck to you.

You know as well as I do that I have a sense of humor same as you do. In fact, I called you Mr. Chaos and you signed your posts as such. I even like your recent claim to fame naming yourself Capt. Chaos. I think that's more fitting.

I don't call anyone on here stupid. To the contrary, this is one intelligent place to hang out and learn from all the arm chair experts. I've even learned things on here.

And it is a crying shame how manufacturers get ripped apart in the main forum. It is surprising that they don't pull their banners but intelligent businessmen know that even negative publicity brings business to them. Of course many less informed individuals don't know this.

Ok , time to sign off. Have a great evening.

OMFG. You've never called anyone hear stupid? My hearing...on the phone ..must be scewed.

BTW...."CUEMAKING MASTER"....OMFG...I SERIOUSLY LAUGHED WHEN I TYPED THIS. I imagine all you've done is learn on here. While your DVDS contain some good info, in what universe and by whom are you considered even a decent builder of cues????

At best you are a bottom tier dealer who rips off and bashes true top tier dealers.

Seriously, what have you ever done for pool?

 

[KJ Cues]

Randy,

When you made the decision to do business with 'Joe Barringer'/Cue Components,
did you not know who you'd be dealing with ? How much warning do you need ?

 

[Joe Barringer]

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