SVB Cue Shaft

[irock]

Does anyone know, if SVB's CueTec shaft, is worn down from play or made for him that size, and if it is the original shaft that comes with the cue? I have a cue like the one he uses, and I can't get use to the thickness, my cue guy said, he wasn't sure if the low deflection shaft could be turned down, any info would be very helpful.

Irock

 

[Cardigan Kid]

Does anyone know, if SVB's CueTec shaft, is worn down from play or made for him that size, and if it is the original shaft that comes with the cue? I have a cue like the one he uses, and I can't get use to the thickness, my cue guy said, he wasn't sure if the low deflection shaft could be turned down, any info would be very helpful.

Irock

In a written interview for Cue Times a few months back he said he plays with a 12.2 mm shaft.

 

[ADAM HENSON]

Seems like he'd get a lot of vibration from that size, but I guess it's whatever you get use too, I don't know..

 

[Cardigan Kid]

Seems like he'd get a lot of vibration from that size, but I guess it's whatever you get use too, I don't know..

I thought the same thing as well, but had an 12.8 mm shaft taken down to 12.23 and its a nice happy medium where it's still solid but not as much vibration as an 11.75 mm

 

[ENGLISH!]

I thought the same thing as well, but had an 12.8 mm shaft taken down to 12.23 and its a nice happy medium where it's still solid but not as much vibration as an 11.75 mm

I have 2 OB Pro shafts that are 11.75 tips & they have 'no' vibration.

It's because they have a modified conical european taper.

That's the taper I grew up with, even on a 13mm cue.

I like it. Some, perhaps many, may not.

To me it tightens in the bridge hand as the tip is actually in & going through contact with the cue ball.

Just my 2 cents.

Best 2 All,
Rick

 

[Cardigan Kid]

I have 2 OB Pro shafts that are 11.75 tips & they have 'no' vibration.

It's because they have a modified conical european taper.

That's the taper I grew up with, even on a 13mm cue.

I like it. Some, perhaps many, may not.

To me it tightens in the bridge hand as the tip is actually in & going through contact with the cue ball.

Just my 2 cents.

Best 2 All,
Rick

I have two predator z2 shafts, and used them for a year. By the end, I just liked the hit of the Longoni s2 shafts which I had taken down. Maybe it's like you said, with a European taper, which helps keep a tightened bridge.

I also noticed on the z2 when using an open bridge and top spin, there was less of a hit and more vibration but maybe that's because of the hollow/foam part of the shaft?

 

[irock]

Thanks for the info, but do you think a Cuetec shaft can be reduced, and if Shane's is reduced from play or made that size from the start by Cuetec, per his request..

 

[Cardigan Kid]

Thanks for the info, but do you think a Cuetec shaft can be reduced, and if Shane's is reduced from play or made that size from the start by Cuetec, per his request..

I just went to their site and it looks like they make just the one Shane plays with....
Cuetec R360 12.25 mm shaft 13-668 - MSRP - $180.00

that is the same size, but it's also their low deflection shaft with a composite core. I thought I read somewhere on here, Shane plays with a normal shaft not a low deflection one. But definitely in August 2014 cue times billiards news interview said he plays with " 19 oz. 12.2 mm" cue.

 

[irock]

Thank You much appreciated.

 

[Poolmanis]

Shane uses that extension what makes cue weight to 22 oz. Probably that added weight brings cue end mass higher so it does not play low deflection anymore..

 

[ENGLISH!]

I have two predator z2 shafts, and used them for a year. By the end, I just liked the hit of the Longoni s2 shafts which I had taken down. Maybe it's like you said, with a European taper, which helps keep a tightened bridge.

I also noticed on the z2 when using an open bridge and top spin, there was less of a hit and more vibration but maybe that's because of the hollow/foam part of the shaft?

One of the best players in the N.O. area uses a Z2 & when he hit my OB pro his comments were, 'Yeah, it's a bit stiffer & I can move the ball easier with this.'

Just thought I'd mention that.

I have a 314Cat that was reduced down to 12MM. It vibrates but is great on a 1/2 or 2/3 of a table but I'm scared to use english with it on full table shots because it has as near to zero squirt/deflection as I've seen & the extra distance lets swerve take & sends the ball across. It's almost like playing with high squirt shaft but in the opposite direction.

Best 2 You & All,
Rick

 

[ENGLISH!]

Shane uses that extension what makes cue weight to 22 oz. Probably that added weight brings cue end mass higher so it does not play low deflection anymore..

The butt extension would not affect the 'end mass' of the shaft. It would just move the balance point of his cue back a bit & add oveall weight.

The shaft should play the same. What the extension does is allows him to grip the cue farther back without being on the end of the cue & allows for a longer bridge away from the ball & a longer sighting line down the shaft.

I hope this makes sense.

Best 2 You & All,
Rick

 

[Ratta]

The butt extension would not affect the 'end mass' of the shaft. It would just move the balance point of his cue back a bit & add oveall weight.

The shaft should play the same. What the extension does is allows him to grip the cue farther back without being on the end of the cue & allows for a longer bridge away from the ball & a longer sighting line down the shaft.

I hope this makes sense.

Best 2 You & All,
Rick

very right what rick wrote. the extension will have usually no effect if it s about LD effects. firstr 10-15 inches are the most important to "workout" low-deflection effects on a shaft. (taper, ferrule construction, end-mass reduce etc etc. ).

lg from overseas.

 

[gmoney1]

played a match next to svb at derby and took a hard look at his equipment his shaft looks to be just UNDER 12 mm at this point it is very small also his break cue looks to be under the standard 58 inches

also noticed he had hardly any tip left on his cue

 

[mortuarymike-nv]

Shafts

I have 2 OB Pro shafts that are 11.75 tips & they have 'no' vibration.

It's because they have a modified conical european taper.

That's the taper I grew up with, even on a 13mm cue.

I like it. Some, perhaps many, may not.

To me it tightens in the bridge hand as the tip is actually in & going through contact with the cue ball.

Just my 2 cents.

Best 2 All,
Rick

I haven't really studied this and I could be wrong, but vibrations and harmonics seem to run together.


Solid or dense hollow materials ring, just like a bell......................................
More flexible materials or softer materials vibrate less and has less harmonics.

I know that almost every LD shaft made is stuffed with something that lowers the shafts sound so it will not sound hollow.

Cotton balls, balsa wood, silicone shredded paper and God know what else............

These sound damping materials also dampen vibrations and that could be the biggest reason the LD shafts seem like they don't vibrate.

You could be right about your LD shafts don't seem to vibrate, but when I switched back to a solid shaft it seemed vibration free compared to two of the LD shafts that I had been using...................................

Maybe it wouldn't hurt for me to research Vibration and Harmonics, instead of guessing .

 

[Poolmanis]

The butt extension would not affect the 'end mass' of the shaft. It would just move the balance point of his cue back a bit & add oveall weight.

The shaft should play the same. What the extension does is allows him to grip the cue farther back without being on the end of the cue & allows for a longer bridge away from the ball & a longer sighting line down the shaft.

I hope this makes sense.

Best 2 You & All,
Rick

Total weight of cue of course counts to End Mass. Of course with LD shaft effect is lot less than difference ld and normal shaft.
But

saying that overall cue mass does not affect end mass is silly.

 

[TomInFaribo]

On my Predator z2 I here a pinggggg on firmer shots and get vibrations on some shots off the rail.
Does the OB do this?