False. The table was not optimized for making high runs easier. Where was this said and what exactly are you claiming was said. Its a 9ft. Gold Crown with 760 Simonis and thats it period.
SVB to Kick Off High Run Attempts
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Thanks for helping out with some stats. You did forget or maybe didnt know Shane had a couple warmup days on Sunday and Monday. I will post those stats once my tech guys give everything to me. On those days he ran a 241 and a 142 on one day and the other day he ran a 140 and a 257. Are you stats being posted for some type of comparison of something to later?
| I wonder if your software scan is somehow missing real short runs. For example, the last two runs before the 308 (after the 28) were 2 and 4. |
So it just happens to be super easy? Quite the coincidence considering all the knocking you did about the specs on the table used for the 626.
No speed records were set into a headwind!
Both sides are being played by both sides.
Easy table acceptable or not should not depend on the player holding the stick.
Yes, I saw that, but there were also times when SVB missed a shot, then would set it up again and try it again, and only then would they'd re-rack and start over. I didn't want to consider those shot replays as anything so filtered them out, and that would filter out that 2 and 4 ball run. (But not the 0 ball run)
Thanks, Bobby. There was some suggestion that you either didn’t mean straight pool (which I know you did) or that you meant of the players today, right now… given that certain lplayers are out of commission or not playing 14.1 tournaments lately. I think from hearing you, you mean that in your opinion you believe Shane is the #1 14.1 player in America, no mincing words, nobody laid-up excluded.
It would be a hell of a challenge match to set up! I’d watch!
He also mentioned John's 626 yesterday
I knew there had been practice days, but I figured the data would be 'cleaner' once the event started so didn't look at the videos from those days.
By the end of day 2 there hadn't been any stats posted except mention of some of SVB's biggest runs. I was curious about the distribution of runs both large and small, so thought I'd try a software scan to see if I could get some numbers to look at. It's not just the size of the runs that is interesting, but also shots-per-inning, shots-per-minute, and time-per-rack and how they change.
I'm also curious if the tactics vary between North American and European players, and between rotation players and 14.1 players, so wanted to try to see whether I could abstract useful data measures from a video without a lot of 'cleaning up' and other pre-processing. Not just the positions of the cue-ball, break-ball, and the two key-balls for each rack, but also measures of shot distances, shot speeds, shot types, break-angles, and the distribution of the balls after the breaks..
I think this analysis might just be a fool's errand, but even so, there have been a few interesting things pop up.
You're right though, and for your event I'll avoid confusing things and will leave the posting of run-sizes and other stats to your group.
I don't know about anyone else but I think you're conflating what others have said and what I have said.
And I specifically reject your allegation, addressed at me, concerning fraud. There is a long thread on this subject and I know others have said such things but leave me off the list. In addition, JS has been anything but "mellow." There are screen shots of what he has posted and messaged and it's not pretty. No one on our side is interested in posting them up but they exist if he wants to deny what he's written.
Lastly, I'm dealing with smears here daily and addressing them in a calm fashion and ultimately laughing them off. Your post is just the most recent smear and it's no big deal to me.
Lou Figueroa
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He also mentioned John's 626 yesterday
And said he sent JS a congratulatory message when it happened.
Lou Figueroa
If you allow the warts , I doubt it
Definitely a positive!He also mentioned John's 626 yesterday
Fully understood. Just pointing out the glaring hypocrisy present.
As I said several posts ago most people will not care what the conditions were.
Every average player has had the experience of not running out on buckets so we understand the awesomeness of running hundreds on any table.
Just that Bobby and Lou both fully deserve to be roasted for how insinuatingly awful they have been. Much worse than Danny in my opinion.
On one hand we are grateful for anyone who steps forward to create any events that showcase the premier players. On the other John Schmidt has done nothing to these people except run more balls than they have dared to dream about and then been forced to endure their nitpicky criticisms denigrating his accomplishments.
For that reason they get to fade what they so gleefully have done to John. They will never apologize and will spin their defense forever and we all know that. But I think we have all said what needed to be said in this regard and can now move on.
All in all this is a truly personal challenge for each player who tries just as it was for John. We can compile the stats and calculate table difficulty factors and come up with probability variations per table and those will be interesting and informative. For that I am grateful and thankful.
Never heard that one, very funny.
You belong on this list and there you will stay.
When you say that maybe John broke the record and maybe he didn't you are casting aspersions and saying maybe he is a fraud and maybe he isn't.
That's a mealy-mouthed way to knock. A common practice among those who like to sow doubt.
You have implied that maybe Bob Jewett is lying, maybe he isn't. That maybe the Billiard Congress of America is lying and maybe they aren't.
Stop trying to pretend otherwise. There is no smear just an accurate description of exactly the behavior you have committed.
Now you can play the victim here and point to John's words in rebuttal and cry crocodile tears but the fact is that John's words wouldn't be there if you and Bobby had not said what you said.
I have had disagreements with John Schmidt and to my knowledge he has never gone off ranting about me. Possibly because I have never called him a fraud. I have respect for his accomplishments just like I have respect for Earl's and any other elite player. One can not like the person and still be honest about their record.