SVB vs Biado
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Where are they streaming these? YouTube?
i think its ppv
SVB works on his break two hrs a day and these goofy ass rules make the shot irrelevant. Total joke.
I cannot get into it. Never thought I’d be bored watching Dennis and SVB play. I love when they match up. But when they played the other week, I couldn’t power through the break rules and watch.
As I argued in the other thread, the break is not irrelevant at all in this format. The break only becomes ‘irrelevant’ if your safety play is inferior.
Are you high A guy makes a good break, pockets a ball and is not allowed to run out?? If you want to watch this shit go ahead. Me and a bunch of others think its a total joke. Because it is. They made these lame rules up so their streams will last longer for their advertisers. They(sharks) have made it clear that the B-N-R's do not appeal to them. Thankfully these lame rules are only used here.
xX-Wizard-Xx
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so the guy coming to the table has a chance to runout but the guy breaking doesnt?
Yes, they put the burden on the breaker to play a safety or push out with the first shot. There is another thread that debates the problems with this format. But it's a free stream at least.
Yes. Sounds stupid as hell when you say it out loud. On one of the earlier matches was the first time i saw this. I was like, "WTF are they playing?" In the chat they made it pretty clear their reasons. The players are getting paid either way so they don't really care unless there's big side-money. I can't picture too many wanting to gamble this way unless they have a crazy stakehorse.
No.
Yup, that's the rules. What exactly are you confused about?
You don't have to like the format. No one is forcing that you should.
My argument remains that the break is still a factor in this format. What this format does is exposes who has the weaker safety/tactical/mental game. Too bad if it shows that SVB is weaker than DO and Biado in at least one of those areas.
Good one.
WobblyStroke
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You do understand that you don't have to push out after the break. You can still play a safety. Isn't it easier to play a safety when you see a full ball? Of course. Therefore, the better breaker still has an advantage.
rodney was never known for a great break. wasn't weak but neither was it the most refined. this format will favor strong after the break players such as dennis, filler and alex. i think it's robbing players the chance to fully capitalize on their break.
No horse in the race, but do they play 3 foul? I would think a player like Corey could find a way to be king of the table over there. 1. Soft break while making a ball -he could figure that out. 2. Don't spread the balls. 3. Do what you wish with BIH *(Profit)*.
I'd like to see this motivate Shane to raise his safety game. I'm sure the 1P is helping.
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First off, I also have no 'horse in the race'. If some think I'm degrading Shane, I'm not. I love SVB. Best thing American pool has to offer the past two decades and counting. I also mentioned in the other thread that I don't think this format should be the dominant format for 9/10-ball. I still prefer the traditional rules (mainly because of its faster pace and easier viewing), but I also don't mind seeing variety in the rules...especially if certain formats showcase certain strengths and/or exposes certain weaknesses in one's game.
Not sure if there is a 3-foul rule, but my best guess is that there is.
The problem that I see with soft breaking and purposely creating clusters is that you would still have to navigate the clusters. It would be much easier to execute an effective break and hope for an open spread and a clear shot on the lowest ball (which is the same goal with traditional rules). Then with a clear path to the lowest ball execute an effective safe. If you play a good safe, you'll have a high probability of running out in your next turn at the table given that the table is wide open table. If there are clusters remaining, then you'll most likely have to give up control of the table...in which anything can happen.
If you watch some of the videos, all players involved break their best, as if they are playing traditional rules. IOW, with the break shot they still desire to spread the balls and have an open shot on the lowest ball, because it is still in their advantage to do so. Again, the break shot remains relevant.