**SVB - wins both rotation events at Derby **

I guessed you missed the part that I was agreeing with "most" of you. Please re read post #74 and let me know,where you got stumped.

I just read it as you saying, "If Shane is so good, then he should be able to adjust to the variance in a short race tournament." That's when I asked how any player can adjust for variance.

My bad if that's not what you meant.
 
I just read it as you saying, "If Shane is so good, then he should be able to adjust to the variance in a short race tournament." That's when I asked how any player can adjust for variance.

My bad if that's not what you meant.

he was saying the opposite in that the better player can adjust to the bad rolls, etc..in a longer set as oppose to a shorter set. He's on our side, lol
 
Potts basicly has won 4 world 8 ball titles and the world juinors ,, The guy should probaly play the lottery being he is so lucky



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I hate to break it to you, but 8 ball isn't the luck-filled game that 9 ball is.

Let me know when someone wins 4 world 9 ball titles.

Hell, I'm sure there's a few folks here that would give you decent odds that Thorsten won't repeat this year.
 
I hate to break it to you, but 8 ball isn't the luck-filled game that 9 ball is.

Let me know when someone wins 4 world 9 ball titles.

Hell, I'm sure there's a few folks here that would give you decent odds that Thorsten won't repeat this year.

Repeating any Turney is a tough task so its a rediculas bet however that does mean the odds get better for the top players as each yr goes by so Im sure Shane will stumble in just on the law of averages sooner or later

And I think that was Thorstons 2 world 9 ball and 5th or 6th total world championship titles,,,

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Repeating any Turney is a tough task so its a rediculas bet however that does mean the odds get better for the top players as each yr goes by so Im sure Shane will stumble in just on the law of averages sooner or later

And I think that was Thorstons 2 world 9 ball and 5th or 6th total world championship titles,,,

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Ask Thorsten if he wants to play Shane a set of 8 or 9 ball for a large amount of cash
 
Crazy

Does Thorsten even gamble ,, I thought he just wins world championships

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I feel as if I have lost brain cells reading some of this stuff you have posted. Bottom line is this. The better player will win a longer race 8 out of 10 times minimum. Probably more like every time.

But to me consistency proves who is the best. And when you look at money list over the last 5 to 6 years SVB is always at the top. If you are consistently finishing higher then most other top tier players then simple logic says that you are consistently the better player. Therefore SVB is the best on the planet right now. And probably on his way to being the best ever.
 

I've been to Hong Kong, China, Singapore, Philippines, Thailand, Japan, Korea, Pakistan and a few more. I have visited most of these countries more than once and for periods greater than a few days. What SVB stated is absolutely correct and should not be understated. It is intimidating, daunting and confusing to just find a restaurant that will serve something recognizable to you. Then, try finding a SAFE method of transportation to get there. Not to mention the communication barriers.

I had buddies with me. We would muddle through the day figuring the cities out together. If I was alone, I would have been lost. Have you ever bought something having to figure out exchange rates exceeding hundreds to one? Everything is a negotiation over there. I feel like I'm being taken advantage of on every purchase.

America is a great country with outstanding and safe food. Americans can be arseholes just like everywhere else, but I bet Ko Pin Yi will have so much more hospitality offered to him in the states than SVB in Asia. Don't get me wrong, I like Asia and especially liked PI and Korea. But, the cultures cannot be compared.

Shane needs a traveling companion that knows the ropes when he travels. Someone he can trust and knows the culture and the language. If he could do this, he would crush the competition "Over There" too.
 
A world championship is a title commonly used to describe a variety of sports events across a number of sports and disciplines. As a general rule of thumb a world championship will be open to elite competitors from across the world, representing their nations, and winning such an event will be considered the highest or near highest achievement in the sport or contest,

as I see it the us open is open to all players from all nations as is derby city .

you don't need to travel the world to be a world champion.

This was a truly great field, but let's not confuse it for the kind of field you'd find at a WPA World Championship, where you'd not only find the 16 that played in the Bigfoot, but you'd also find these 16 great players, listed alphabetically: David Alcaide, Ronnie Alcano, Yukio Akagariyama, Karl Boyes, JL Chang, Nick Ekonomopoulos, Antonio Gabica, Roberto Gomez, Mika Immonen, Ko Pin-Yi, Chris Melling, Naoyuki Oi, Alex Pagulayan, Nick Vandenberg, Li He Wen, and Wu Jiaqing.

Shane will, sooner rather than later, best a field that includes all 32 of these champions and others at a WPA World Championship, and it will be a far greater achievement than winning the Bigfoot.

Still, no matter how you slice it, Shane is a living legend of pool --- which nobody can deny!
 
Lets see how many asians,philipino,euro,players come play that position better.The point is shane is GREAT and is capable of beating any living person and any game IN THE WORLD regardless if its only on us soil. So that quilifies him to be considered the best player in the world in my eys.

these are some of the "asian players" who did not participate in the US Open last year:
Dennis Orcollo
Carlo Biado
Francisco Bustamante
Ronnie Alcano
Efren Reyes
Alex Pagulayan
Ko Pin-Yi
Chang Jung-Lin
Wu Chia-Ching
Fu Che-Wei

Only one player (Lee Van Corteza) came from the PI, yet he reached the finals with Shane. but can you imagine how tough the playing field is, had the players i mentioned joined this tournament? two years ago, all 6 finalists in the US Open were Filipinos, except for Shane. good feat for SVB winning the open back-to-back. he then represents the US at the WPC in Doha-Qatar and then gets eliminated at last 32? then he only finished 7th place in last year's Ultimate 10-ball tournament; and this was held in the US - 4 players who bested him in this tournament flew from asia and europe.
in my opinion, SVB is the best American player today. i love SVB - very humble player, kicks really good, huge break; but to say that he's the best in the world is a bit exaggerated. it's more safe to say, "SVB has the potential to be the best player in the world."
 
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I feel as if I have lost brain cells reading some of this stuff you have posted. Bottom line is this. The better player will win a longer race 8 out of 10 times minimum. Probably more like every time.

But to me consistency proves who is the best. And when you look at money list over the last 5 to 6 years SVB is always at the top. If you are consistently finishing higher then most other top tier players then simple logic says that you are consistently the better player. Therefore SVB is the best on the planet right now. And probably on his way to being the best ever.

Don't worry a have a few to spare since your depleted ,, I understand that in a long race the better player wins ,, but tourneys are not these long races for one and your playing several players not one ,, so any case study really is irrelevant about who wins a race to 100 ,,, this is not rocket science ,,,


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Don't worry a have a few to spare since your depleted ,, I understand that in a long race the better player wins ,, but tourneys are not these long races for one and your playing several players not one ,, so any case study really is irrelevant about who wins a race to 100 ,,, this is not rocket science ,,,


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So, basically you are saying that luck is a bigger factor In a tourney than skill. Otherwise, these world champions would love playing longer sets because you, " understand that in a long race the better player wins.." Then, by your logic (:rolleyes:), a race to 100 is a better test of skill. Thanks for making our point.
 
So, basically you are saying that luck is a bigger factor In a tourney than skill. Otherwise, these world champions would love playing longer sets because you, " understand that in a long race the better player wins.." Then, by your logic (:rolleyes:), a race to 100 is a better test of skill. Thanks for making our point.
What part of your not playing one player is hard to understand ,,
It's not a fight to the death ,, there are also factors in those races to ,, do you think age becomes a factor does that make a younger player like Shane better than Efran when Efran wares down like we have seen ,

Hatch beat Appleton in a race to 100 is he a better player I hardly think so , and Shane's not that much better than Dennis as their last match would indicate
so its not a fool profff method of proving who the best is

Again we are talking about turney play that requires a different mind set
It's a apples and oranges comparison

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What part of your not playing one player is hard to understand ,,
It's not a fight to the death ,, there are also factors in those races to ,, do you think age becomes a factor does that make a younger player like Shane better than Efran when Efran wares down like we have seen ,

Hatch beat Appleton in a race to 100 is he a better player I hardly think so , and Shane's not that much better than Dennis as their last match would indicate
so its not a fool profff method of proving who the best is

Again we are talking about turney play that requires a different mind set
It's a apples and oranges comparison

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Oh, so you admit that Shane winning 2 out of the 4 events (both being rotation games) at DCC is a tougher feat. After all, it was like he won 2 tournies while playing in 4 tournies day in and day out for a week straight.
 
So, basically you are saying that luck is a bigger factor In a tourney than skill. Otherwise, these world champions would love playing longer sets because you, " understand that in a long race the better player wins.." Then, by your logic (:rolleyes:), a race to 100 is a better test of skill. Thanks for making our point.

Oh, so you admit that Shane winning 2 out of the 4 events (both being rotation games) at DCC is a tougher feat. After all, it was like he won 2 tournies while playing in 4 tournies day in and day out for a week straight.

Straw man overload.
 
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