Read Bob's post and he says most techniques could be eliminated with a regular stroke at a certain speed and proper tip placement. He doesn't claim that "what ever you do to the cueball has no effect on a bank".
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Further proof ,offered by you , as to what you do to the cueball can and will effect the bank.
of course you can do things to the cueball that change the object balls.
simple english will but using that exact same english and speed wont change the balls path by poking it.
the claim was that using a different sort of stroke other than another would do it.
a masse with a short stroke or a long one or a poke isnt likely to change the object balls effects.
simple english will but using that exact same english and speed wont change the balls path by poking it.
the claim was that using a different sort of stroke other than another would do it.
a masse with a short stroke or a long one or a poke isnt likely to change the object balls effects.
Of course a masse shot is not a normal stroke. It's way elevated for one thing. But I don't know what you mean by "throw". Usually throw is used to mean the cue ball (or an object ball) rubs across another ball and sends it other than along the line of centers at the instant of contact. What do you mean by "throw"?
You're an accomplished bank pool player so I would give whatever you're doing some credence.
Lou Figueroa
You're correct. CPG is old stuff (except the acronym which I coined) I just assumed the parallel shift was known.
I know throw is contact that causes a deviation from the line of centers..what I was referring to is the slight masse/swerve to alter the cueballs path and throw the object ball. Such as is needed to pocket a ball when the correct/true/common point of contact is blocked by another ball.
I will also reiterate what I posted before.
Learn to play with a level cue. Become a advanced level player and learn to elevate for different execution.
You and me against the world it seems...lol
The type of chalk you use and the cue's balance point also has zero effect to how bank reacts. Yep I said it... Tongue in cheek but just as irrelevant.
doing certain things may cause some people to get a better hit on the cueball or more speed. but not change what happens to the cueball or object ball after the tip hits it with the same direction of stroke.
but old wives tales superstitions prevail in all things.
but old wives tales superstitions prevail in all things.
1pocketguru
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I would love to know your process.
IF the chalk you are using gives you a bit more grab, particularly at slower stroke speeds, and the balance of your cue helps swing the cue, just so as you’re descending into shooting position, to get you lined up for a truer stroke…
Lou Figueroa
That a bunch of words descripting a few things with zero correlation to bank characteristics. Would have been faster to to just give my post a thumbs up.
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Well, a "thumbs-up" would have indicated approval or agreement with your post, which isn't what I wanted to do.
I guess in some cases it might even be construed as passive aggressive... Then on the other hand, a thumbs-down would indicated disapproval which also wouldn't have been accurate. So I choose to write a couple of things that I simply wanted to point out. Ferinstance: the thing about more grab, at slower speeds, would affect bank shots if you're getting more RPMs on the CB, no? Now, you didn't mention my point on cue balance so I guess we're good on that. But then, you didn't give me a thumbs-up either, so maybe you didn't agree with that point either. Emojis are always imprecise in their meaning. So much depends on context and the intent of the individual using them. Then of course there's what's going on between the recipient's ears. I mean, like if you're Gen Z, then the thumbs-up would possibly be considered aggressive or rude. Since I don't know how old you are it's impossible to know how you'd take or react to a thumbs-up anywhos.
It's all just so confusing.
Lou Figueroa
lol... Ya, kids and their special language these days.
To be clear. My argument is that nothing you can do to a cue (tip, chalk, balance) or how you play a shot (hard, soft, w/ or w/o spin) will affect how the rail actually plays. You can manipulate the manifested rebound (choose your koolaid), however that shouldn't be confused with altering the dynamics of the rail itself. Which is my point.
That said, I prefer to play banks in the best manner to make varying rebound characteristics I might encounter as similar as possible. Generally speaking you can expect a bank shot hard to rebound in the same manner across a magnitude of rail characteristics and conditions. "Same manner" is a broad stroke, but definitely more similar then softly struck.
Everything else is best discussed with those who specialize with manipulating banks. I am not one of those players.
I listen to JAY and the TECHNIQUES, "Apples, Peaches, Pumkin Pie" ~