Does anyone know where I can get the original rules? there seems to be some variations floating around.
Thanks in advance for all your help
Thanks in advance for all your help
Texas Express Rules
- Thread starter Tom In Cincy
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I probably have them somewhere but you should be able to find them on archive.org.
Here is one set: http://www.angelofbilliards.com/resources/TexasExpress9-Ball-Rules.pdf which seems to be identical to the one at http://findpooltournaments.com/
The rules have moved on. Were you interested in them for historical reasons?
The rules havent 'moved on'....still in use all over the world. I think those links Mr. Jewett provided should provide you with enough info. However, if there is one particular rule in question, I or RandyG will be happy to provide you with answers.
They have moved on. Use the WPA rules. Most of the world does.
I know of hundreds, if not thousands of events that still use Texas Express rules. Kinda like Texas Hold-em.....you might not like the state, but you play the game.
I thought the current WPA rules were essentially the same as TE. What are the significant differences?
A link to one version of TE is above. Here are the WPA rules: http://www.wpa-pool.com/web/the_rules_of_play -- be sure to look at the Regulations as well since that is where you'll find things like "cue ball fouls only" which is a misnomer, of course.
Right, Bob. What I mean is that the current version of the world rules are basically the same in terms of play i.e. push-out after the break and BIH anywhere on a foul. Were the world rules (or BCA rules) always this way or did they change from the old school nine ball rules (2 foul push-out and BIH behind the head string) after TE sort of took over in usage?
There are lots of details. Many of the details are important. It's good to know what the rules of the game are.
The BCA rules for pro nine ball originally came from the men's pro tour (PBA) rules which were written about 1986. For a few years the BCA published both the "pro" and the "other" rules for nine ball. The pro rules included a push out but gave ball in hand behind the head string for a scratch on the break. Illegally pocketed balls spotted. I wrote a brief article on the history of the BCA/WPA rules which is the last column in this file: http://sfbilliards.com/articles/cols2008r.pdf The first column in that file talks about the WPA rules changes for 2008. The WPA rules are currently up for another round of changes but they will probably be minor compared to 2008.
Thanks Mr Jewett, these are the same set of rule I have saved.
I also agree that "TE" rules are used in a lot of places and by a lot of TDs, but most players (amateurs) only know TE rules. They also have very little idea what the WPA is, or what the World Standardized Rules are.
One of the biggest differences between the WPA/WSR and the TE rules is what is penalty for an illegal break in 9 ball. The TE Rules state that the incoming player either has BIH or a rerack, not a choice but only when under certain conditions of the differences of what TE declares an illegal break.
There is no penalty for 'tapping' balls in the WPA/WSR rules, but in TE, it can be LOSS of game.
Thanks again Mr Jewett.
I also agree that "TE" rules are used in a lot of places and by a lot of TDs, but most players (amateurs) only know TE rules. They also have very little idea what the WPA is, or what the World Standardized Rules are.
One of the biggest differences between the WPA/WSR and the TE rules is what is penalty for an illegal break in 9 ball. The TE Rules state that the incoming player either has BIH or a rerack, not a choice but only when under certain conditions of the differences of what TE declares an illegal break.
There is no penalty for 'tapping' balls in the WPA/WSR rules, but in TE, it can be LOSS of game.
Thanks again Mr Jewett.
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I think the vast majority of players have no idea what any particular set of rules is. I think they only know what the other players and the TD have said are the rules. My experience is that most -- maybe even 90% -- of pro players have never read the rules and have no idea what's in there. I don't think the amateurs are in any better condition. Often they get details wrong.
TE for most players means ball in hand for any foul, nothing spots, slop counts, three fouls is loss of game. That describes the WSR as well as the rules from Texas Express Promotions.
What does WPA stand for anyways? Is it call shot in those rules? No three fouls either? Those rules seem not Texas style.
WPA stands for the World Pool-Billiard Association. The WPA is the official source of the world standardized rules.
http://www.wpa-pool.com/web/home
There is a 3 foul rule in 9 ball under the WPA rules and results in loss of rack. Look under rule 2.8 of the rules for 9 Ball.
9 Ball under WPA rules is not a call shot game.
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