Not in my area. Of the two different ways I've seen the Orange Crrush, played, the "last 5" is not part of it.
The 5, last five, and breaks.
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Not in my area. Of the two different ways I've seen the Orange Crrush, played, the "last 5" is not part of it.
I believe it says it in the title of the thread, last 5 and the breaks.
Saw Ginky, RIP, spot a fairly weak to average C player every ball, yep, every ball. It was a while ago and I may be wrong but he may have given him the breaks too.
Killed him. All the C player had to do was make a ball on the break and then make the low ball left on the table (only the 9 counted on the break, everything else stayed down). When Ginky shot he either ran out or left the C player safe. If he played safe, the C player usually missed the kick giving Ginky ball in hand and almost always resulted in a runout.
A few hundred $$ later the C player realized that he had zero chance and quit.
Against top quality players, it's a whole lot harder than it sounds.
J
Killed him. All the C player had to do was make a ball on the break and then make the low ball left on the table (only the 9 counted on the break, everything else stayed down). When Ginky shot he either ran out or left the C player safe. If he played safe, the C player usually missed the kick giving Ginky ball in hand and almost always resulted in a runout.
A few hundred $$ later the C player realized that he had zero chance and quit.
Against top quality players, it's a whole lot harder than it sounds.
J
You are mistaken-but nice try: http://www.billiardsforum.info/billiard-terms-definition/orange-crush.asp
Shane Van Boening vs Scooter Goldman
Google Shane Van Boening Gives up the nuts.
Scooter is given all the breaks, the wild 6,7,8,9 on what appears to be a 9' Diamond with Shane racking. I think the best was $7500.
YEah it might sounds easy but really it is not. if you are taking another point of view.. for example, if you play 9-ball or 10-ball you have to have ball in order from 1 to 9 or 1 to 10. with that being said, your opponent (Shane) made the first 4 balls and hit the 5-ball and hide you. your next ball is the 5-ball not 6,7,8,9 or 10, but 5. And as highest caliber ass Shane is it wont be that hard for him to run another six balls.
You turned down his offered is a good choice especially you don't know how good he is and like macguy said he might set you up and slowly killing you. it's selling like a trap to me.
You turned down his offered is a good choice especially you don't know how good he is and like macguy said he might set you up and slowly killing you. it's selling like a trap to me.
Here is a tip...
If you don't understand what the spot means, you probably need more weight...
Good luck! 8)
If you don't understand what the spot means, you probably need more weight...
Good luck! 8)
The break is part of the spot. Source: the title of the thread. But yea, if the guy is nigh helpless and the player is a shortstop or above, there is a chance he could lose with that spot.
Seems there is not a complete consensus as to what it is...
https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=328941
Someone used the wrong terminology. Last 5 is different than 5-out.
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alanvo
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He was at a strange place. Winning doesn't mean you can leave with the cash.
Old Nine Baller
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"Orange" is the 5 ball and "crush" is the break. It's not difficult.
Maybe in different parts of the country they play it different, maybe that's why the guy offered him all three things even though the break is the crush. The guy separated the 5 and the last five for a reason, it's not because the last five is automatically included in the "orange crush".
ONB
Even a D level player has a chance to win with a spot like that. So call his bluff, play him for 20 bucks. See if he'll let you choose the table, then pick the tightest one in the room. And If the guy ends up being that good, pay attention. It might be worth the 20.
No one (in their right mind) is gonna give you "the world" and have you bet 20 a set, 20 a game....maybe.
This is the kind of spot you get when they are planning to ....
1.take as much as possible from you in your first match up (Rob you)
2. NOT planning on giving you MORE weight if you lose.
3. figure your gonna quit anyway when you finally realize that you CANT WIN.
Im thinking i could give that game to a D or even C player IF i was Playing my top gear with No Slop rules in effect.
And My best isnt good enough to get that game from say Shane or who have ya and call it a Lock.
BTW kids, orange crush is the Wild 5 ball and all the breaks, thats it, (no last 5 included)
The game you got here should be called the "high 5" or, "fab 5 freddy " or "5 alarm fire drill" or....in this case ....."5 finger discount":thumbup:
I watched someone give up the 4-out and breaks playing 9 ball on a bar table. The guy who got the spot was a decent apa 6 level player in our area. I thought for sure he was going to win even though he was playing a good player. Well after about 3 hours they broke even. They were playing 20 a game and at one point the player getting the spot was down almost 300. Hard to beat the guy when he missed 3 shots I think he was trying to make and all of them were combinations.
Banks
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I was able to work a player down to, I think it was, the 5-out or 6-out and the breaks(only 9 counted on the break) and I consider myself a mediocre/weak APA 9. He was probably about a 6 at the time. I got the 8 from a GM one time and it didn't matter. If a player is offering the game, it's because they think they can win with it. I practice by offering APA spots, but I should probably start offering gambling spots such as these to get used to them.