The aches about shaft deflection and others!
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SlickRick_PCS said:I like all the posts that you all are posting up. Keep bringing some advice there, AZer folks.
I bought a Viking DeCue series (the grey-wolf) with a 12mm diameter, 16in pro-tapered origional shaft with a quick release thread and it was perspectively meant for only Mud-balled coin-op tables. Big mistake in the long run!! Then I started to progress into the regular 4'x8' tables and to 4.1" x 8.4" tables... both with nappy cloth. I then realized that when I shot around medium-hard, my shaft vibrated... whippy to some. I went on to just playing bar cues (which were 13mm) and I was pretty confortable with them. When I went over to a local sports bar which had 9ft Olhausen tables, I was in a huge "culture shock": The cloth was fast, rails replied sharply and not dead like the latter two, and the pockets were tight! I then realized why it was quite useful to use such a softly, decent cue... deflective I must say. Hitman has a close perspective of what I am talking about.
I told a fellow cueist of mine about the predator and telling him about where the fun is without deflection. I mean, I do use house cues time after time when I go to this sports bar and they're pretty decent 12mm stiff cues, only I would perfer some deflection (not alot!) for shots that requrie them. I know there are some situations where it requires (*as you all posted them.
But that's what I have in say. I would like to hear some more opinions or advice that I can obtain knowlege of. If I am going to buy a shaft for my Viking that is not my style, I will be more confused than satisfied.
And on Pushout's reply, I really don't see alot of cueist with other shafts except either origional or Predators. Where I live at, I can't just grab someone's cue and just use it (of course I have to ask them) but even then, they get this unconfortable feeling about one using their cue. So it's just a respect thing :/ .
Am I understanding this correctly, are you saying a bar cue doesn't deflect much?
Yes, there are certain shots where some deflection will help. But how often do those shots arise while you are shooting?
You're not ready to buy something. You need to make up your mind, not chase a hit or feel that you THINK you want. Shoot with other cues and shafts. You'll have a better idea of what you want once you shoot with some different cues.
You're not ready to buy something. You need to make up your mind, not chase a hit or feel that you THINK you want. Shoot with other cues and shafts. You'll have a better idea of what you want once you shoot with some different cues.
OK, in that case I claim that I have no problem playing the cue ball to the right side of the pocket and spinning out of the corner with right spin with a low-squirt shaft. The aim will be different than for a high-squirt shaft, but I think that the shot is easier with less squirt. It is aim, not squirt that causes the ball to go in the right side of the pocket and the cue ball to go a little to the left.jon21588 said:
jon21588 said:
cool, i couldnt figure out how that shot was possible on your first table, i thought your intent was to make it straight, its a hanger with my Barry or Bushka, thanks for clearing it up, that would take a hell uv a cue and stroke to do the shot in the first diagram, i the rock would have to go airborne to get that angle.
Yeah. I just looked at it again. Its definitely not that exact shot. My predator seemed to pull the cueball to the right on this shot instead of deflecting it to the left. So now I'm switching back to the normal shaft. With the normal shaft I seem to have better control over where I want the rock to go.
Jon
Jon
They're wrong.
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No situations that I know of require more squirt ("deflection").
pj
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