The BeCue System - Carbon Composite Cue - Interview with the Cue Makers
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Yes your interpretation is correct!
As I wrote, my English, is one of the things to improve.:wink:The company in charge of airbrushing is specialized in airbrushing for motorcycle and racing helmets, especially the guy who takes care of our cues has won and received many awards.
Thanks a lot for your interest and support!
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We are really sorry about that, before choosing the name of our company we did a market analysis.
We are sorry that he wants to change his name!
Alessandro
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What will be the estimated price tag for Becues and when do you think you could get production up and running for these cues? I'm genuinely interested in the concept and I wish you and your business all the best for the future
I'd fund you if I could for sure
I'd fund you if I could for sure
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What will be the estimated price tag for Becues and when do you think you could get production up and running for these cues? I'm genuinely interested in the concept and I wish you and your business all the best for the future
I'd fund you if I could for sure
Thanks a lot Kimmo!
Production has already started, we will ship all the cues in January, second half (the Christmas holidays do not help us in this..). We are very happy because the majority of the bidders has already informed us that they want the cue anyway, independently by kickstarter. So we will give them the cue with Kickstarter price, even if we will not get to our goal of 20,000.
For all the other, who have not offered on kickstarter, the price will be the one indicated in the price list.
Naked close to 900 $
Sneaky close to 1.100$
Leonardo Balance System close to 120$
Thanks for your support!
We hope that many players decide to support us in the last 5 days of the campaign launch on kickstarter, and we hope that they want take a Becue with about 50% off!
Alessandro
What I want more then anything (in regards to this cue) is a video of a capable pool player (someone at least A level) shooting with the cue and his/her honest opinion in a detailed review from that person.
With that being said, I'm definitely not in the market for this cue (or a cue in general), I'm more curious then anything.
I thought the Revo was a bit ridiculous when I first saw it, then I tried it and I beleive the hype. It's worth every penny, but like this cue it's just not for me.
It's nice to see the creators of the cue posting here and taking questions. That is a great start to the marketing of this (or any pool related item in general) and I wish them the best.
With that being said, I'm definitely not in the market for this cue (or a cue in general), I'm more curious then anything.
I thought the Revo was a bit ridiculous when I first saw it, then I tried it and I beleive the hype. It's worth every penny, but like this cue it's just not for me.
It's nice to see the creators of the cue posting here and taking questions. That is a great start to the marketing of this (or any pool related item in general) and I wish them the best.
Not sure if I qualify as A Level player (what is A-level exactly? does national champion qualify as A-level?) but once I get my Becue I will record short practice session and will post it on youtube for you to judge
This is a great comment and I thought the same.
When the cue makers visited the forum in the first thread, they showed they are honest and open with nothing to hide.
When I contacted them on the side, that thought was even more validated which is why I wanted to create this thread to keep the word flowing through the pool halls of cyberspace.
Its not very often that we get treated to a blast of positive energy in this sport. This is certainly just that.
I wasn't in the market for a cue either, and really wasn't in the market for carbon composite. However, with the price of the Kickstarter packages - its pretty much the industries first rent-to-own at manufacturer price.
There was too much upside to turn down...
Best case scenario - I have a new player (and I paid low$)
Middle case scenario - I have a break cue that is indestructible (and I paid low $)
Worst case scenario - I sell on the open market and can say I've experimented with carbon composite. (And it cost me zero $)
And in every scenario, I'm helping these guys get their first order in from the factory in time for super billiards expo.
Here's my prediction:
BeCue is here to stay to satisfy a new niche market in carbon composite shafts/cues
And
Predator is forced to re-think their one size fits all stance on the Revo.
****also to anyone who is wondering if carbon composite can be built at any ferrule size and length, email Alessandro, you'll be surprised at what they can do*****
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Thank you very much for suggestions, we are trying to do more videos.
If we could spend the names that have helped us to develop we would have already achieved the goal of kickstarter... but we can not. As I wrote before, probably in the first months of next year, we will have with us a player with features that you ask us, we are discussing this opportunity.
Thanks for you support!
I don't think predator is being forced to do anything.
They have the man power, scale, and budget to probably do whatever they want in the cue industry. If producing the Revo in multiple sizes is that profitable, why aren't they doing it? Is there some guy in a predator office saying "I am really pissing this guy off in Syracuse, I might as well keep it up despite the massive revenue we are missing"?
Not sure if I qualify as A Level player (what is A-level exactly? does national champion qualify as A-level?) but once I get my Becue I will record short practice session and will post it on youtube for you to judge
Thanks a lot Marek this is what we need! I hope...:grin::grin:
I'm joking, we are very happy if players will do video test with our cue! This is the marketing actions that we want to promote!
We are doing everything possible to ship before the cues but force the time is never a good choice, we have to respect the delivery times of our suppliers, It is not a good idea to put pressure on those who work with decimal precision.:grin:
As written in the beginning of kickstarter we planned shipments for January. But we'd love to be able to anticipate. We're working hard for this!
Thanks a lot for your support!
Not sure if I qualify as A Level player (what is A-level exactly? does national champion qualify as A-level?) but once I get my Becue I will record short practice session and will post it on youtube for you to judge
I will take what I can get
If we had to go with an APA rating. IMO an A player is the 9 in 9-ball, nothing less. Doesnt mean you are a national champion but you are highly capable of putting a 9ball 3 pack on the big table.
You know, an amateur, but skilled.
Bob jewitt quoted as saying he wants Revo at 11.8mm after playing with custom 12.0mm Revo
Darren Appleton still playing with wood after 5 variations of sizes with Revo
Albin Ouchan using his Revo as a break cue during Mosconi cup but making killer shots with wood shaft player
BeCue sells out of 11.8 mm carbon composite at SBE 2017 :grin:
Its only a matter of time.
And the guy in Syracuse is satisfied with the BeCue
Competition in the market is great and forces companies to compete.
Bob jewitt quoted as saying he wants Revo at 11.8mm after playing with custom 12.0mm Revo
Darren Appleton still playing with wood after 5 variations of sizes with Revo
Albin Ouchan using his Revo as a break cue during Mosconi cup but making killer shots with wood shaft player
BeCue sells out of 11.8 mm carbon composite at SBE 2017 :grin:
Its only a matter of time.
And the guy in Syracuse is satisfied with the BeCue
You provided an example of one person who wants a different size revo, and 2 people who own revos but aren't using them..... What argument, if any, are these examples supporting? Are you saying that there are people out there just like you who don't want the current size revo? Or are you saying there are people out there who don't like the revo at any size? Or are you saying the unplayed untested unseen BeCue will be better than the revo because it's offered in a different size than the revo?
I'm saying yes to all those. The pool playing community is vast and different - all sorts of playing styles, aiming styles, hand sizes etc.
We talked about the advantages and disadvantages of Revo before...
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=424338
I also had a great phone interview with predator which I posted about here....
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?p=5586579#post5586579
At that time, I thought it was a great error for them to claim 12.9mm is the only size to release and best for low deflection.
And I truly believe after the BeCue fellas get rolling, others cue companies will follow in limited forms, and Predator will have to rethink their stance on the 12.9mm.
Thanks a lot for having opened this thread, I honestly think that there is not another greatest opportunity in the world, like this forum, to talk about our product with the players. That, for us is meaning have the opportunity to talk with the market.
I think there are two way to do a good business, I say generally, not only in the world of pool:
1. Make a good product, or service, and push it in the market through big marketing campaign, big testimonial, main events and more. This is amazing and maybe it's the shortest way and there is nothing wrong with that, but it requires a great economic availability immediately.
2. Make a good product, or service, and push it in the market through showing what you did, how you did and who you are. You have to put your face, and talk with the market through all the tools that you have. Not everyone will like you but no one will have surprises. That's what we're trying to do. Why? Because as I said, all the money served to develop the product in recent years comes from our pockets, and we are proud of this sacrifice. Also because we believe that the best marketing in the billiard world is the word of mouth.
Moreover because behind this company, there are people, people that playing pool and that want have a direct comparison after so much work.
About your different scenario...
1. Best case scenario - I have a new player (and I paid low$) this is what we've worked for
2. Middle case scenario - I have a break cue that is indestructible (and I paid low $) please be patient, we are testing our break, it will be ready in a few months ...
3. Worst case scenario - I sell on the open market and can say I've experimented with carbon composite. (And it cost me zero $) never will sell your Becue, first love is never forgotten ... I'm kidding, we hope that this thing does not happen, but certainly, as I said, it is impossible that all the players in the world love our cue, then surely someone will do it ... and it will be a real good deal for those who will buyit!:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
Thanks a lot for your support! We hope that many others want to support us!
Thanks
Alessandro
Bob jewitt quoted as saying he wants Revo at 11.8mm after playing with custom 12.0mm Revo
Darren Appleton still playing with wood after 5 variations of sizes with Revo
Albin Ouchan using his Revo as a break cue during Mosconi cup but making killer shots with wood shaft player
BeCue sells out of 11.8 mm carbon composite at SBE 2017 :grin:
Its only a matter of time.
And the guy in Syracuse is satisfied with the BeCue
Competition in the market is great and forces companies to compete.
So Bob Jewitt prefers it a different size, big deal.
Your claim to Darren? Prove to everyone why he thinks what he thinks, please. We would like to know how you know so much about Darren and his decisions.
Albin using his Revo? Maybe it was similar to Revo but actually different, we don't know this. So again please prove to us all how you are certain you know exactly what it was he was using.
In regards to Darren and Albin, like them, if you had world titles around your neck, would you change drastically with a busy event schedule. I would bet that you wouldn't.
And if the mister in Syracuse is happy with another cue, great we still have a player supporting the sport.
My bottom line here is that you are correct in stating that competition is healthy within an industry. We can all agree to that.
But I what I am going to state is that you, CardiganKid continually choose to provide your insight filled with knowledge of your arguments that is about as deep as my sons kiddie pool, very amusing.
Just as we have asked of BeCue, please show us solid proof of your knowledge that you so base your opinionated responses on. If you intend on supporting healthy competition within an industry, do just that please.
No offense intended, but I will question the questioner.
My point is that you're attacking predator as if they have done something wrong to you. You are comparing predator to Becue, which you are in love with because they offer your size. You reference a handful of people on earth who also are not using the revo.... possibly because of the size or possibly because of any other reason. Why aren't you comparing becue to any other shaft manufacturer? OB doesn't have a non wood shaft, why aren't you upset with them? What happens if Becue fails? Evil empire predator gets away with murder forcing every human to use one size non wood shaft?
You make no sense, except that you're thrilled with Becue, that is clear.
You make no sense, except that you're thrilled with Becue, that is clear.
So Bob Jewitt prefers it a different size, big deal.
Your claim to Darren? Prove to everyone why he thinks what he thinks, please. We would like to know how you know so much about Darren and his decisions.
Albin using his Revo? Maybe it was similar to Revo but actually different, we don't know this. So again please prove to us all how you are certain you know exactly what it was he was using.
In regards to Darren and Albin, like them, if you had world titles around your neck, would you change drastically with a busy event schedule. I would bet that you wouldn't.
And if the mister in Syracuse is happy with another cue, great we still have a player supporting the sport.
My bottom line here is that you are correct in stating that competition is healthy within an industry. We can all agree to that.
But I what I am going to state is that you, CardiganKid continually choose to provide your insight filled with knowledge of your arguments that is about as deep as my sons kiddie pool, very amusing.
Just as we have asked of BeCue, please show us solid proof of your knowledge that you so base your opinionated responses on. If you intend on supporting healthy competition within an industry, do just that please.
No offense intended, but I will question the questioner.
This is all a healthy debate and I welcome the discussion.
If you refer to the past Revo threads links above, there are links from Darren's Facebook about his hesitations regarding the Revo, and he has tried to make the switch. I'll see him in January and discuss this even more in depth.
As you, I also like information. Which is why I went out of my way to call predator on the phone and discuss all aspects regarding Revo... http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?p=5586579#post5586579
My insight may be as deep as a kiddie pool - but I go to the source to ask the questions. The representative from predator was very open and so were the guys from BeCue (as you can see from their posts here on this forum).
This is all very positive for pool, and that's what I love about it.