The BeCue System - Carbon Composite Cue - Interview with the Cue Makers

[Cardigan Kid]

My point is that you're attacking predator as if they have done something wrong to you. You are comparing predator to Becue, which you are in love with because they offer your size. You reference a handful of people on earth who also are not using the revo.... possibly because of the size or possibly because of any other reason. Why aren't you comparing becue to any other shaft manufacturer? OB doesn't have a non wood shaft, why aren't you upset with them? What happens if Becue fails? Evil empire predator gets away with murder forcing every human to use one size non wood shaft?


You make no sense, except that you're thrilled with Becue, that is clear.

I play with a predator p3 butt, I own predator shafts and I had great conversations with predator reps.
I'm only comparing BeCue and predator because at this time they are the only two companies utilizing carbon composite.

 

[billiardthought]

I play with a predator p3 butt, I own predator shafts and I had great conversations with predator reps.
I'm only comparing BeCue and predator because at this time they are the only two companies utilizing carbon composite.

So why not just promote BeCue because of how fantastic they are? Why include Predator at all?

And I'm still curious about your curiosity with Darren. So he's used different sizes of the revo, and currently not using a revo at all. What does that mean to you? What if he doesn't like the Becue? That would be a lot of your time wasted....

 

[AtLarge]

We are really sorry about that, before choosing the name of our company we did a market analysis.

We are sorry that he wants to change his name!

Alessandro

Chris Abaya Cues is his new username.

 

[marek]

I will take what I can get

If we had to go with an APA rating. IMO an A player is the 9 in 9-ball, nothing less. Doesnt mean you are a national champion but you are highly capable of putting a 9ball 3 pack on the big table.

You know, an amateur, but skilled.

Ok, as I dont play in APA league 9 doesnt tell me much neither As a matter of fact I am an amateur player with pool being "just" my hobby but I guess with high run of 142 in 14-1 and 7pack in 9ball I qualify for your requirements And I won some national titles here and there

 

[Hidy Ho]

Worst case scenario - I sell on the open market and can say I've experimented with carbon composite. (And it cost me zero $)

It's really hard for me to take you seriously after this sort of "logic". What makes you think you can sell it back at your cost (under worst case scenario)? I'd think real honest worst case is that you lose up to 100% of what you put into it???

P.S. Good luck to the makers (currently almost at 60% of KS goal with 4 days left to go).

 

[spidermik]

It's really hard for me to take you seriously after this sort of "logic". What makes you think you can sell it back at your cost (under worst case scenario)? I'd think real honest worst case is that you lose up to 100% of what you put into it???

P.S. Good luck to the makers (currently almost at 60% of KS goal with 4 days left to go).

Thanks a lot Hidy we continue to believe! We really hope that also this discussion will help us, we are here to answer at all question!

 

[Jawzcue]

Weight system?

How much does the Leonardo Weight System cost on it's own?

 

[croscoe]

Reads like. Pledge 600 get 350 of suggested retail?? (donate $250 ??? )

Extensions?

Ok no answer?


Kick starter says pledge E600 (about $659) get E350 off Suggested retail price......
I tried to copy the KS quote but No luck...

Am I the only one that finds this ODD...

350 is approx. 58% of 600
so a 1K retail cue would cost you $420 (based on the wording used on the KS site)
now pay $659 towards a 1K retail cue your balance would be $341
Are you not LOSSING money here folks?

quoted prices previous post.

For all the other, who have not offered on kickstarter, the price will be the one indicated in the price list.

Naked close to 900 $
Sneaky close to 1.100$
Leonardo Balance System close to 120$

Thanks for your support!

We hope that many players decide to support us in the last 5 days of the campaign launch on kickstarter, and we hope that they want take a Becue with about 50% off!

Alessandro

The extension question has not been addressed yet either.

To clarify I am questioning a rear extension.

 

[Shawn Armstrong]

Ok no answer?


Kick starter says pledge E600 (about $659) get E350 off Suggested retail price......
I tried to copy the KS quote but No luck...

Am I the only one that finds this ODD...

350 is approx. 58% of 600
so a 1K retail cue would cost you $420 (based on the wording used on the KS site)
now pay $659 towards a 1K retail cue your balance would be $341
Are you not LOSSING money here folks?

quoted prices previous post.

For all the other, who have not offered on kickstarter, the price will be the one indicated in the price list.

Naked close to 900 $
Sneaky close to 1.100$
Leonardo Balance System close to 120$

Thanks for your support!

We hope that many players decide to support us in the last 5 days of the campaign launch on kickstarter, and we hope that they want take a Becue with about 50% off!

Alessandro
The extension question has not been addressed yet either.

To clarify I am questioning a rear extension.

Yes, you're the only one that finds this odd. Your math is wrong.

The regular retail on the cue is set to be 950E. You get 350E off of the suggested retail price, bringing it down to 600E.

 

[croscoe]

Yes, you're the only one that finds this odd. Your math is wrong.

The regular retail on the cue is set to be 950E. You get 350E off of the suggested retail price, bringing it down to 600E.[/QUOTE


I'm read what they POSTED ...Says pledge E600 or more get E350 off retail.

Are you saying their intent is to get the cue for your pledged amount of E600 or more. Thus you receive the cue for approx. E350 off.

That would be more reasonable.

 

[spidermik]

How much does the Leonardo Weight System cost on it's own?

Leonardo Balance System retail price will be about 120 $

 

[DCS_SF]

Yes, you're the only one that finds this odd. Your math is wrong.

The regular retail on the cue is set to be 950E. You get 350E off of the suggested retail price, bringing it down to 600E.[/QUOTE


I'm read what they POSTED ...Says pledge E600 or more get E350 off retail.

Are you saying their intent is to get the cue for your pledged amount of E600 or more. Thus you receive the cue for approx. E350 off.

That would be more reasonable.

Pledge E500 and get the cue for 450 less than the retail of E950. Pledge E600 and get the cue for 350 less than the retail of E950.

What about that is confusing you?

 

[spidermik]

Yes, you're the only one that finds this odd. Your math is wrong.

The regular retail on the cue is set to be 950E. You get 350E off of the suggested retail price, bringing it down to 600E.[/QUOTE


I'm read what they POSTED ...Says pledge E600 or more get E350 off retail.

Are you saying their intent is to get the cue for your pledged amount of E600 or more. Thus you receive the cue for approx. E350 off.

That would be more reasonable.

Hi Croscoe, the explanation given by Shawn is correct, "The regular retail on the cue is set to be 950E. You get 350E off of the suggested retail price, bringing it down to 600E".
we have not received any objection on this.

 

[croscoe]

Pledge E500 and get the cue for 450 less than the retail of E950. Pledge E600 and get the cue for 350 less than the retail of E950.

What about that is confusing you?

Hopefully you guys are not the ones writing math questions for our childrens books.
As you mix $ & E . Along with stating that a pledge price let's you get buy for a price xxx$ lower than retail.

Simpler to state if correct, would be pledge E600 approx $649 ( actually pay said amount) And you receive a cue. A savings off retail of approx.E350

 

[justinb386]

Would you do what OB and a few cuemakers did, donating a few sample of your prototype cues to be passed around to Azers to test drive it for feedbacks and response n also to gather more sales

Im sure this is a fantastic way to market and advertise your product becoz the best form of marketing is still by word of mouth.

Good luck

Yeah, I would not mind trying one out, and giving my personal opinion about the cue and shaft.

 

[justinb386]

So I am curious, which top quality professional players have you employed for testing and feedback?
Which players have responded well/not well?
How long have you allowed anyone to test or review the cue?
How will you prove their testimony?
What are your patent numbers that are usually found on patented items, or even pending items?
What makes this cue different that what has been tried before?


As someone who I believe is very interested in this product and likes to play pool and is within your target demographic, I would like to see more independently verifiable information considering you are asking for funding on kickstarter.

Not to be coarse, but these are the questions that I would need answered before I could part with my hard earned money.

Thank you and I look forward to your reply.

great questions, and great post. Why not seek out some good unknown players (who are not currently being sponsored by any cue makers), and ask them to try out your product, and post video of them shooting with your cue product, and then give some video feedback about how they feel that the cue hits and any other thoughts they have about the cue and shaft?

 

[justinb386]

Thanks a lot for your suggestion, we are making this launch campaign with pool cues at half price to get this. We are sure that the cues sold in this period will be good publicity!
We are trying to give the opportunity at all to have one at an advantageous price
The judgment of the players has always been for us the engine of our work!
We are pleased with the response of the players!
Thanks a lot!

Players may try the cue out without chalking the tip (in order to get a feel for the cue and how it hits to them), so will you be offering a full refund of the cue is returned to you unchalked (and in the same new condition that it was shipped out in)?

 

[justinb386]

If this cue is successful China will knock it off at half the price.

I guess that depends on what the full retail price will be. They may not be able to do it anyways, and they may not even care to try. Have they tried to knock off the Predator shafts?

 

[DCS_SF]

Hopefully you guys are not the ones writing math questions for our childrens books.
As you mix $ & E . Along with stating that a pledge price let's you get buy for a price xxx$ lower than retail.

Simpler to state if correct, would be pledge E600 approx $649 ( actually pay said amount) And you receive a cue. A savings off retail of approx.E350

Writing math questions? There is very basic math here, but thanks for the insult.

Nobody is mixing $ and E except you. No one else seems to be confused and I frankly am not sure what exactly you are confused about.

The cue would normally cost E950. If you pledge E500 you get a cue for that price. You are getting a E450 discount.

Can you explain succinctly what it is about the pledges that you find confusing?

 

[justinb386]

Thanks a lot for your questions
1. which top quality professional players have you employed for testing and feedback?
As I wrote, we can't tell the names, because they are sponsored from other company and they did it only like a pleasure and for the love for this sport, and I hope because they understand our mission and also because they know that the composite cue will be a big part of the market. But one thing I can tell... probably on Febrary/March, you will see a big name with our cue, we are talking about that but it's not easy we are, now, a little company.
Which players have responded well/not well?
About the feeling and sensation during the game we have very good response from all. We have seen that the players who have appreciated more our cues are the players that already came from no deflection cue and they were watching for something more.

How long have you allowed anyone to test or review the cue?
The final version of our stick is available from one year. So our player test are playng from this time.

How will you prove their testimony?
They are writing on facebook, sharing the project etc

What are your patent numbers that are usually found on patented items, or even pending items?

102016000105555 and 102016000105571

What makes this cue different that what has been tried before?
It's completely made by composite material but give to the player a very comfortable sensation, very cool design, absolutely revolutionary balance system. It is built with materials of absolute value, model sneaky pete It is not painted but airbrushed by hand. Our cue does not work miracles but It does what it have to do, it is a no deflection cue and it do it very well, this isn't an opinion, it is what the cue do.
Please take a look on our youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4isQrMh-ZQcXfw-v1HXARQ

If I can tell you more please write me, it's very important for us give you all the info you need.

Thanks a lot!
Alessandro

You could find some very strong players (who do not have sponsors) to try out your product, and post video of them shooting with the cue, and talking about their thoughts about the cue on video. I would not mind being a tester of one of the cues.