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1. various amounts of force (speed) put on it from the cue
2. various amounts of spin put on it from the cue
3. can have a few types of direction put on it from a cue. But no matter where it goes it's all some kind of "direction".

After ball 1 hits ball 2 it
1. will have various amounts of force (speed) put on it from the hit.
2. will have various amount of spin put on it from the hit.
3. will have various directions put on it from the hit .

So how much more can this round mass of matter do by me doing magic things with my cue before I HIT IT ? Or should I stroke it?

Just ask-in. IMO from a dummy. help me. What am I missing ? Where's my car? Let's talk.
 
Types of different strokes some people say to use like , upstroke, downstroke. Example, if I where to strike the cue ball with a above center hit with my cue angeling upward at the time if impact does the cue ball do something other than role forward with top spin ?
 
Not sure what you are asking or what your point is so I will guess.

This pertains to a different thread regarding different strokes/up strokes/down strokes/grips and how this impacts the physics of carom shots.

From my prospective most of this is wuwu metaphysical stuff. I'm not saying people that subscribe to this are wrong. I'm saying they have these "strokes" so ingrained in their body/mind connection that it has become inexplicable for them so their translation/explanation is murky.

It's like when religion gets into the business of science or vise versa. It just does equate.
 
Dear Five & out.

3 cushion game is a huge game,
It depends what do you wanna achieve as a goal and how long it's gonna take you to make it happen.

their are 2 types of players ,

1. Player who likes to play for fun , enjoy the game and try to socialize with others ,
you can pick shots from different players , for example +2 system, another time different system, You 'll learn threw the years to be 0.5 to .7 player .(which is the average of most of the room players)


2. The other players , choose difficult pass, Try to learn the basics , the fundamentals ,and different techniques ..
We don't have enough good instructors to train you Right ! ( It's all about the PROCESS of teaching, it's not a system or trick, their is no magic into it, This way will cost more money to learn from a good and professional instructors, he is gonna change all your habits and introduce you to different concept of the game! Improvement is little but 5 years you ll be solid 900 to 1 player.

So it's your decision which way you wanna go.


3 cushion is complicated game, it's not as easy as other described it, Sometimes you don't have many options, they are different variables to take into consideration, making the point, position play, defense and kisses ,....

It's dedication and commitment , long way to go.

Hope this will help your decision .
 
Fox said:
Dear Five & out.

3 cushion game is a huge game,
It depends what do you wanna achieve as a goal and how long it's gonna take you to make it happen.

their are 2 types of players ,

1. Player who likes to play for fun , enjoy the game and try to socialize with others ,
you can pick shots from different players , for example +2 system, another time different system, You 'll learn threw the years to be 0.5 to .7 player .(which is the average of most of the room players)


2. The other players , choose difficult pass, Try to learn the basics , the fundamentals ,and different techniques ..
We don't have enough good instructors to train you Right ! ( It's all about the PROCESS of teaching, it's not a system or trick, their is no magic into it, This way will cost more money to learn from a good and professional instructors, he is gonna change all your habits and introduce you to different concept of the game! Improvement is little but 5 years you ll be solid 900 to 1 player.

So it's your decision which way you wanna go.


3 cushion is complicated game, it's not as easy as other described it, Sometimes you don't have many options, they are different variables to take into consideration, making the point, position play, defense and kisses ,....

It's dedication and commitment , long way to go.

Hope this will help your decision .
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Gilbert; For the BEST players in the World, "No explanation is necessary, for the lesser informed player No explanation will ever suffice". It’s like a drug addict; you can only help them, if they REALLY want help.

You hit the nail right on the head; everyone is looking for a road map to play billiards instead of the proper instruction and a diligent training program. We are capable of having players in this country that are willing to give our “niche” game a boost by offering their talents and knowledge to new comers and average players to the game for a nominal fee for much improvement to their game.

Players can watch all the videos of games they like, but, if you REALLY don’t understand what you’re seeing, it’s just entertainment!

Many times I’ve offered to come to a room, club or private venue to hold a 3 hour clinic for just the cost of my expenses, and still will do so just to do my part to keep this game alive that I’ve devoted over 45 years to!

Bill Smith “Mr3Cushion”
 
Or another analogy Gilbert is to say " You will only know the truth when you accept the pink unicorn that's under my bed.
 
zensteve said:
Not sure what you are asking or what your point is so I will guess.

This pertains to a different thread regarding different strokes/up strokes/down strokes/grips and how this impacts the physics of carom shots.

From my prospective most of this is wuwu metaphysical stuff. I'm not saying people that subscribe to this are wrong. I'm saying they have these "strokes" so ingrained in their body/mind connection that it has become inexplicable for them so their translation/explanation is murky.

It's like when religion gets into the business of science or vise versa. It just does equate.
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ABSOLUTELY RIGHT..... I agree....
 
It just dawned on me, that all of the members who are in disagreement with the use of different strokes, are I believe, 650 average and below. Makes you wonder about their creditability of knowledge about the game!

Respectfully;
Bill Smith "Mr3Cushion"
 
Precisely the point.

As one becomes more proficient at a sport the higher level of expectation most require of them. If a novice makes a claim he/she is allowed a degree of latitude or forgiveness.

Conversely, those that have more experience/expertise have less latitude and the evidence should be more stringent.

In short, "More that is known...More that is expected.

And a pinch of humility doesn't hurt.
 
If I don't know or understand something in life, I sit and listen. I don't expound or pontificate about it, especially if I'm a "novice" about the subject being discussed!

Bill Smith "Mr3Cushion"
 
mr3cushion said:
It just dawned on me, that all of the members who are in disagreement with the use of different strokes, are I believe, 650 average and below. Makes you wonder about their creditability of knowledge about the game!

Respectfully;
Bill Smith "Mr3Cushion"
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This doesn't make any sense. Obviously, if you are 650 and below (me for example) we do not have the knowledge nor credibility. To Steve point's the knowledge and credibility must come from those who play 1 and above.
 
My point EXACTLY is, all the "novice" players want to argue and dispute the point about "different" or the "one" stroke theory. Again, the point, maybe listening more instead of arguing about this subject would help them even more!

Bill Smith "Mr3Cushion"
 
mr3cushion said:
It just dawned on me, that all of the members who are in disagreement with the use of different strokes, are I believe, 650 average and below. Makes you wonder about their creditability of knowledge about the game!

Respectfully;
Bill Smith "Mr3Cushion"
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On the thread "Blomdahl on Technique", the number one ranking of the world said that he only have ONE technique like Dani Sanchez and Frederic Coudron and that is Pull the cue, wait, stroke straight.

Here is the link to the entire interview,
http://www.kozoom.com/en/billiard-c...lomdahl-5-everlasting-love-for-billiards.html

It's been a while since i passed that 650 average mark!!!
 
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sightline said:
Mr3Cushion,

On the thread "Blomdahl on Technique", the number one ranking of the world said that he only have ONE technique like Dani Sanchez and Frederic Coudron and that is Pull the cue, wait, stroke straight. Here is the link to the entire interview,

http://www.kozoom.com/en/billiard-c...lomdahl-5-everlasting-love-for-billiards.html

It's been a while since i passed that 650 average mark!!!
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You must of missed this "quote" from TB in this article by Bert van Manen, "How can I use the fact that angles can be lengthened or shortened by using a different stroke?”.

Sightline; What's your REAL name, do you play in any tournaments, are you on the USBA website Player Rankings with avg., where do you live and play, and with whom? Just askn!

Bill Smith "Mr3Cushion"
 
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