Starting right now. and afterwards fats is playing lassiter on the same chanel
It like a nightmare isnt it. --- Keith mcready
It like a nightmare isnt it. --- Keith mcready
The color of money on ESPN classic right now
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It was interesting to watch a piece of TCOM again. I see what I did and didn't like about it. The script was mediocre, the acting tepid (except for Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio) and the dialogue contrived. What was good was the Cinematography or camera work. They made pool look exciting with the sounds and movement of the balls. The accompanying music was great too.
I cringed when Newman throws open his case, almost dropping it on the table. He bangs his cue around like he's playing pick up sticks, both when putting it together and taking it apart. And when he and Cruise lag, they actually bump cues. OMG! They were somewhat clueless about how a pool player treats his equipment, especially his cue. Someone dropped the ball when it came to coaching these guys in this aspect of the game. I mean these are "supposed" to be professional pool players being depicted here, and they treat their cues like strange foreign objects.
The great scenes of flying balls with cool sound effects and music save the movie. Not one of Scorsece's best.
I cringed when Newman throws open his case, almost dropping it on the table. He bangs his cue around like he's playing pick up sticks, both when putting it together and taking it apart. And when he and Cruise lag, they actually bump cues. OMG! They were somewhat clueless about how a pool player treats his equipment, especially his cue. Someone dropped the ball when it came to coaching these guys in this aspect of the game. I mean these are "supposed" to be professional pool players being depicted here, and they treat their cues like strange foreign objects.
The great scenes of flying balls with cool sound effects and music save the movie. Not one of Scorsece's best.
Where do the players sit???
Yes, I agree with you 100%
I have one question.
In the scene where they go to Atlantic City, where they show all the tournament tables. Where do all the players sit?? There is no seating between or by the tables!!!!
Just something I noticed. LOL
jay helfert said:
Yes, I agree with you 100%
I have one question.
In the scene where they go to Atlantic City, where they show all the tournament tables. Where do all the players sit?? There is no seating between or by the tables!!!!
Just something I noticed. LOL
Yeah, I agree. Newman did a far better job in the first movie. At least by not obvioustly abusing his cue, (although he always looks clumsy assembling it, drops it as he passes out cold at the end of game 1 and leaves it in a bus station locker)
(Damn "West Side Story" for being produced the same year).
The story I heard was that Mosconi had Rambow make 3 cues for the movie. For a total of $250.
It always surprised me that the cue in the second movie was billed as a Balabushka instead of a Rambow. Only thing I could come up with is it was too close to Stallones "Rambo" also popular around the same time.
Who knows? I know personally how I cringe when somebody I sold a cue to, whether it be a production cue or a 1 of a kind, abuses it, tapping it against a rail, dropping it, tossing it onto the table, etc.
Yeah, tossing the 'Bushka (Joss-'Bushka or not) around was just plain disrespectful.
True, it wasn't one of Scorcese's best, but if you've ever read the book, it wasn't as bad as it might have been.
(Damn "West Side Story" for being produced the same year).
The story I heard was that Mosconi had Rambow make 3 cues for the movie. For a total of $250.
It always surprised me that the cue in the second movie was billed as a Balabushka instead of a Rambow. Only thing I could come up with is it was too close to Stallones "Rambo" also popular around the same time.
Who knows? I know personally how I cringe when somebody I sold a cue to, whether it be a production cue or a 1 of a kind, abuses it, tapping it against a rail, dropping it, tossing it onto the table, etc.
Yeah, tossing the 'Bushka (Joss-'Bushka or not) around was just plain disrespectful.
True, it wasn't one of Scorcese's best, but if you've ever read the book, it wasn't as bad as it might have been.
jay helfert said:
Yeah, another good example is when Newman threw the Balabuska to Cruise in the backroom office like 10 feet so Cruise could check it out -- without Cruise knowing ahead of time that the "top-end" cue was going to be on it's way flying through the air to him... Right...makes total sense...I throw my high-end cues to people all the time...hehe
There were gafs far worse than these in the movie. A lot of ball positions changed from frame to frame during the movie. In the opening game sequence, when Cruise is running the rack, he ends up with perfect shape on a ball in the side pocket. The camera pans away, then comes back, and now the shot is a dead bank into the opposite side. Also, when Cruise is playing Mozelle at Chalky's, he ends up with an angle on the 5 into the corner. When the camera comes back, it's dead straight, and Cruise is able to shoot the shot no hands with the cue and his chin. There are other ones during the movie, but these are HUGE. Sigel should have at least said something about these, being the technical advisor. Every time I come to these two spots, I cringe.jay helfert said:
Shawn Armstrong said:
Watch the "run outs". Newman and Cruise both play horrible position shot after shot. In fact they play "no" position on most shots. Just make an easy shot and let the cue ball die. They could have dubbed in someone (Sigel) completing these shots properly.
The pool movie I wish someone would make...
..would be a documentary filmed in a legendary room like Hard Times, not necessarily with narration, and with microphones picking up all the woofing, game making, banter, etc., and naturally plus exciting matches between local color, shortstops, pros, etc.
..would be a documentary filmed in a legendary room like Hard Times, not necessarily with narration, and with microphones picking up all the woofing, game making, banter, etc., and naturally plus exciting matches between local color, shortstops, pros, etc.