The Drill Instructor's "Winning Ball Aiming System"

Neil said:
Haven't seen it before now. But, if I am reading his diagram correctly, he is stating that all cut shots up to about seventy degrees are half ball hits. That's simply not true, so there must be more to it than that.
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He's not, but I still wouldn't waste my time with this POS.

In fact, I'd recommend the arrow over this garbage.
 
This comes from a conceptualization that Dom Esposito, The Drill Instructor, had--he is always innovating products to help others. We discussed his "eureka" moment in person and he showed me this concept before release. It is a different way of identifying and sighting on back-of-ball aiming. It is not diagramming half-ball hits.

I'm aware that different players respond to different visualizations and conceptions, I've tested Dom's system and it is accurate.
 
BilliardsAbout said:
This comes from a conceptualization that Dom Esposito, The Drill Instructor had It is a different way of identifying and sighting on back-of-ball aiming. It is not diagramming half-ball hits.

I'm aware that different players respond to different visualizations and conceptions, I've tested Dom's system and it is accurate.
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It looks to me more like 90/90 than anything else. If the screen is enlarged and "pause" is activated, the top instructions can be easily read. He even mentioned 90/90 as well as center to edge in his spiel so they play a major role in his offshoot of both.

You're aiming the tip of the cue to the outer edge of the OB and PIVOTING
back from there.

Since you find Dom's system accurate then I'd have to assume since he used variations of 90/90 and CTE, you would also find them very accurate IF you knew how to do them.

DO HIS WRITTEN OR VERBAL SET OF SPECIFIC INSTRUCTIONS WHEN AIMING TO EXACT POINTS AND PIVOTING BACK TO AN EXACT POINT FROM THERE GIVE YOU THE IMPRESSION THAT HIS SYSTEM IS QUITE OBJECTIVE OR SUBJECTIVE TO WHERE YOU HAD TO IMPROVISE AND MAKE FURTHER ADJUSTMENTS ON YOUR OWN TO POCKET THE BALLS?
 
Thanks, Spider.

I find it's an interesting way for someone to "see" back-of-ball via the pivoting action you wrote about.

I would say--works fairly objectively to find back-of-ball. Subjectivity has to play a part in any aiming system, especially if the player doesn't know what things like squirt and throw are and how to adjust.

Thanks again.
 
BilliardsAbout said:
Thanks, Spider.

I find it's an interesting way for someone to "see" back-of-ball via the pivoting action you wrote about.

I would say--works fairly objectively to find back-of-ball. Subjectivity has to play a part in any aiming system, especially if the player doesn't know what things like squirt and throw are and how to adjust.

Thanks again.
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The pivoting action I wrote about was in his set of instructions included with the system he's selling.

As I understood your original post, you tried his system out while he was there with you giving instructions and you stated it was an accurate way of making balls.

If you used his system, you had to PIVOT or it wouldn't have worked. Where did you pivot to - the center of the CB or somewhere else? If it was to the center, there shouldn't have been any squirt or throw which had you SEEING, SETTING UP, and STROKING in an objective fashion from start to finish.

But I do agree with the way you phrased it above about the use of English bringing in subjectivity. Did he have a way of incorporating it into his system either prior to or after the pivot?
 
BilliardsAbout said:
I would say--works fairly objectively to find back-of-ball.
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YO, Matt! Did you hear the light splash in the water while you were swimming around as happy and care free as could be?

That was some lure being cast into the water by Pat Johnson seeing if he could hook you into saying something else, anything else.

If so, you would be reeled in so fast your gills would block up.

Swim as fast as you can in the other direction or your pond will turn into quicksand.

(you could answer my question first and then zip out)
 
1. Objective in that if you do as directed you reach back-of-ball. The qualifier word is "fairly" in terms of "one must use one's eyes and brain". (I also say objective because the back-of-ball point is a geometric point that is easily plotted and discovered.)

2. The shift is to center ball.

Dom is kind of old school--in a good way--on throw and etc. and he works with students on that direct.
 
BilliardsAbout said:
1. Objective in that if you do as directed you reach back-of-ball. The qualifier word is "fairly" in terms of "one must use one's eyes and brain". (I also say objective because the back-of-ball point is a geometric point that is easily plotted and discovered.)

I'm not familiar with his method but I certainly am with ALL the other pivot systems and I think you've given a very fair and intelligent assessment even with the short amount of time you worked with it. Sounds good to me and you may even feel more objectivity the longer you worked with it and it became ingrained to see everything more acutely.

But it doesn't mean you're free and clear. I could name the naysayers who will say you're full of crap either directly or in so many words with their incessant wordsmithing questions in an attempt to trap you or spin it. But I think you know who they are or will find out when they start posting to your experience.

2. The shift is to center ball.
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All of them do with the exception of one and it can pivot slightly to the outside of center on all shots.
 
Thanks for the encouragement. I come here to learn and have fun. Most are good eggs but some are jealous? angry? crazy? hormonal?

:)
 
PS. I meant no offense or implication to any here nor was I thinking of any persons on this thread. I come here TO get challenged, grow and learn.
 
Talked with Dom E. on the phone last night for an hour. You need more than the card pictured, there are some added steps that are wonderful--you can place a ball up to a 70-degree cut angle where you like and Dom is 9 for 10 using this system--blanket over the ball and pocket both--Houle-style! Anyway, enough boasting. The DI is the real deal and has a number of excellent gadgets and training tools people love.
 
you can place a ball up to a 70-degree cut angle where you like and Dom is 9 for 10 using this system--blanket over the ball and pocket both--Houle-style! [/QUOTE said:
Now you went and did it!! ALL of the anti-CTE "whack jobs" will be slithering out of the woodwork with this claim!!

On second thought, no they won't. All they care about is CTE. They didn't even dare touch 90/90 nor will they go after this.
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Peepin' and Hidin'

SpiderWebComm said:
Now you went and did it!! ALL of the anti-CTE "whack jobs" will be slithering out of the woodwork with this claim!!
On second thought, no they won't. All they care about is CTE. They didn't even dare touch 90/90 nor will they go after this.
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I'm thinking that maybe the bossman around here has cooled the heels of some of the most vicious ones and they're laying low after being disciplined.
That remains to be seen, but it looks like a blessing to me.:smile:
 
GoldenFlash said:
I'm thinking that maybe the bossman around here has cooled the heels of some of the most vicious ones and they're laying low after being disciplined.
That remains to be seen, but it looks like a blessing to me.:smile:
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More like the the favoritism shown to CTE users when it comes to moderating the forum.

Clearly there are double standards.
 
duckie said:
More like the the favoritism shown to CTE users when it comes to moderating the forum.
Clearly there are double standards.
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I just couldn't resist...(no hard feelings meant, man) :p
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I've attended a two-hour Dom clinic before (more than once) where he goes five or six hours. His passion is excellent for teaching and for the students. And like Houle, he can do some amazing things with a cue ball--and like Houle, many of his accusers haven't actually seen him shoot in person! Not every student likes every instructor who works for them (quite the contrary) but Dom has raving fans who adore him and learn from him.

I appreciate people who are asking me offline about Dom and his tools and programs--I love working with him.

I also feel the pain on the other recent thread about HH, who was a genius, but a misunderstood genius (as if there is another kind!).
 
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