The Duchess of Doom Takes the Title!

It might be boring for some seeing Allision win tournament after tournament. But what can you say about her. Her game is solid in every way. JohnnyT
 
Johnnyt said:
It might be boring for some seeing Allision win tournament after tournament. But what can you say about her. Her game is solid in every way. JohnnyT
Well she wins alot, but if you look at the recent tourneys you will see that her win streak is fadding. :eek: Congrats on this tourney Allison! :) Now how far does this put her in front of Karen points wise???
 
This one was a real stinker.

Fisher played well to win rack one, but what followed were five of the poorest racks I've ever seen played by these two against each other. These racks took so long and were so sloppily played that there's no way you'll see all of them on the telecast, as the match, resultingly, took forever. Some major editing will be needed to bring the telecast down to an hour. Corr was bad, Fisher far worse, over this almost embarrassing string of five racks.

I'm sure Fisher counted herself lucky to even be in the match at that point, down just 4 - 2. And, then, suddenly and most unexpectedly, Fisher caught a stroke and played truly exceptional pool for the remainder of the match to win it 7 - 5.

A truly forgettable final.
 
sjm said:
This one was a real stinker.

Fisher played well to win rack one, but what followed were five of the poorest racks I've ever seen played by these two against each other. These racks took so long and were so sloppily played that there's no way you'll see all of them on the telecast, as the match, resultingly, took forever. Some major editing will be needed to bring the telecast down to an hour. Corr was bad, Fisher far worse, over this almost embarrassing string of five racks.

I'm sure Fisher counted herself lucky to even be in the match at that point, down just 4 - 2. And, then, suddenly and most unexpectedly, Fisher caught a stroke and played truly exceptional pool for the remainder of the match to win it 7 - 5.

A truly forgettable final.

SJM,
Though I have seen them play some great matches, perhaps sometimes they do bring out the worst in each other. I will re-post a link to the thread describing the worst pool match I've ever witnessed (the Fisher-Corr battle for the hot seat 2 years ago in Peoria) - it was unwatchable for me.

http://www.azbilliards.com/vbulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=4270
 
Williebetmore said:
SJM,
Though I have seen them play some great matches, perhaps sometimes they do bring out the worst in each other. I will re-post a link to the thread describing the worst pool match I've ever witnessed (the Fisher-Corr battle for the hot seat 2 years ago in Peoria) - it was unwatchable for me.

http://www.azbilliards.com/vbulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=4270

Amazingly, though, Willie, the Sunday final the day after may have been the best final they've ever played, a breathtaking, and brilliantly played affair in which Fisher needed her highest game to come back from 3 - 0 to win it double hill.

To be honest, I think it's rare that they bring out the worst in each other, though their TV semifinal in the 2002 BCA Open (with Vivian waiting in the hot seat) certainly qualifies as another one of their more memorable stinkers.
 
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sjm said:
Amazingly, though, Willie, the Sunday final the day after may have been the best final they've ever played, a breathtaking, and brilliantly played affair in which Fisher needed her highest game to come back from 3 - 0 to win it double hill.

To be honest, I think it's rare that they bring out the worst in each other, though their TV semifinal in the 2002 BCA Open (with Vivian waiting in the hot seat) certainly qualifies as another one of their more memorable stinkers.

SJM,
The poor quality and pace of play could be expounded upon for hours, perhaps I can just summarize in 4 words, "lack of shot clock."

P.S. - as the match approached midnight I wondered if they needed a shot calendar.
 
Hi,
In my opinion, in rack # 11 when karen had ball in hand she made a major error with her choice of the cue Ball route and this costed her the title.
Vagabond
 
vagabond said:
Hi,
In my opinion, in rack # 11 when karen had ball in hand she made a major error with her choice of the cue Ball route and this costed her the title.
Vagabond

Yes, it could have been better, but her second error in rack #11 was even worse. When Corr ended up having to bank the three to go for the runout, she could have and should (and probably even did) play it two ways to leave the three along the bottom rail on a miss, but her speed was poor and she left the missed three ball over the hole, selling the rack out.

Strangely enough, it was the second two-way bank misplayed by Corr in the match. in rack three, Corr, forced to bank the nine into the side, tried to bring the cue ball to the bottom rail and failed to leave the nine in the center of the table. The result was a fairly easy leave for Fisher (followed by what was surely Fisher's worst shot of the match, a miss of a long but fairly straight in nine ball).
 
The buzz from the players, men and women was that the tables played horribly. The conditions were terrible and the tables ALL rolled off. I think that Connelly tables are not fit for professional competition.

Why doesn't the BCA/WPBA/UPA have ROCK SOLID specs on what a pro table should be? If they do then these couldn't have been up to par.

SJM, it was a pleasure to meet you and find out more of your background. You are truly a huge fan and supporter of the game. I'll keep that in mind next time we banter here.

John
 
onepocketchump said:
The buzz from the players, men and women was that the tables played horribly. The conditions were terrible and the tables ALL rolled off. I think that Connelly tables are not fit for professional competition.
Why doesn't the BCA/WPBA/UPA have ROCK SOLID specs on what a pro table should be? If they do then these couldn't have been up to par.

The BCA have loose specs for everything as they are a trade organization whose primary aim is ensuring profit for the industry rather than enforcing strict regulations that would benefit only the players.
The WPBA, UPA and other pro tournaments in the USA seem to be perpetually lacking in funding, making them hostage to the whims of the table sponsor for a particular event. Sure they can complain or set specifications for the sponsor, but at the end of the day they cannot afford to buy, ship, setup and breakdown the tables for their events.
To add to this problem, when the final rounds are televised some of the biggest sponsors (I know Brunswick do this in WPBA tour stops, not sure of the others) can make them break down the commercial-grade tables they have been using for the earlier rounds and play on a hurridly-setup furniture-grade tables that they want to promote to the people watching at home.
 
onepocketchump said:
The buzz from the players, men and women was that the tables played horribly. The conditions were terrible and the tables ALL rolled off. I think that Connelly tables are not fit for professional competition.

Why doesn't the BCA/WPBA/UPA have ROCK SOLID specs on what a pro table should be? If they do then these couldn't have been up to par.

SJM, it was a pleasure to meet you and find out more of your background. You are truly a huge fan and supporter of the game. I'll keep that in mind next time we banter here.

John

Thanks for your kind words, OPC.

You know, in my chats with many of the pros, I heard more complaints about the Brunswick Centennial cloth than I did about the Connelly tables.

Thanks to the fact that equipment coordination is under the supervision of formerly high-ranked WPBA pro Peg Ledman, the equipment is generally very good at WPBA events, with medium-tight Brunswick GC IVs and Simonis 860 being the norm.

Unfortunately, the BCA Open is not a WPBA event and the WPBA had no control over the equipment speciifcations, so all had to suffer.

I admire those at Connelly for supporting our sport and hope that their sponsorship of pro pool generates sales for them, but I'm inclined to agree that their equipment is unfit for pro level competition.
 
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