Colin Colenso said:These are the standard competition rules in England, Australia, Ireland, Scottland and a few other countries.
They play 8-ball this way in Israel, too. Interesting version of the game!
Colin Colenso said:These are the standard competition rules in England, Australia, Ireland, Scottland and a few other countries.
Some fool told me that too.JIGS said:Was at a local bar and I broke and scratched so the guy says.. "you lost". I tried to explain to him that this was not a rule and he proceeded to tell me how he's a league player and knows ALL the rules. He was pretty agressive about it too.. Then his twin brother comes up and tells me how he knows its not a rule but he has to side with his brother... LMAO
Anyway we played out the game and I won..![]()
That was the first time I've heard that one.
Christine
Slowhand said:How about when they're taking practice strokes and bump the QB. If it rolls less than an inch, it's not a foul and you don't lose your turn.![]()
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phjunky said:Another bar rule that i kinda hate is on 8ball, if you sink a ball on the break, you have to pick this kind, you don't have the choice.
runscott said:The guys in my local bar play these exact rules.
The weirdest I ever experienced was playing 8-ball in Ireland back in the '80s. The opponent got one ball in hand for each violation, so if you hit the wrong ball, and scratched, he got two consecutive shots, i.e - shoot until miss, then shoot again. I'm not sure what would happen if he scratched on his first shot.
Colin Colenso said:These are the standard competition rules in England, Australia, Ireland, Scottland and a few other countries. I played most my pool under these rules and they are pretty good rules for the tables we play on (tight pockets). But I do prefer pool on US tables with BIH rules as it is a more aggressive game.
To answer your question, if you foul when you have 2 visits, you lose them both and the opponent gets 2 visits.
The game is more strategical as pocketing the opponent's ball is a foul, even when you hit your own ball first. This combined with tight pockets that make it hard to pot balls down rails, invite a lot of pocket covering and subsequent tactical battles around the control of pockets. Quite often a player will deliberately foul and give away 2 visits to gain control over a pocket.
When playing a deliberate foul, you usually attempt to leave the CB in a position so that the player's first shot is very hard as they must play from where the CB finishes, or from the baulk area if it is a scratch.
If the opponent cannot hit both sides of at least one of his balls after a foul, he is awarded a foul snooker, which means he can nominate the opponent's ball as one of his own. This makes for some real chess like battles and some fine control of clusters of balls around pockets.
At the higher levels of the game it is still basically a run out game with an occassional tactical battle, but at league levels where players aren't confident of running their last few balls, there is a lot of strategy play.
Many of the top level players in this game are very accurate shooters with strong snooker backgrounds. A few of the IPT players have been world champions in this 2-shot form of 8-ball. Mick Hill, Darren Appleton and Quinten Hann come to mind.
cuenut said:I have a buddy who played in a small town tournament when on vacation. They had the 1" rule but he didn't know. He called a foul when his opponent bumped the CB. Hill-hill later and my buddy has only the 8 left. No jump shots allowed, the other guy leaves him just barely hidden behind one of his balls. My buddy taps the CB sideways about 1/2", then proceeds to shoot the now clean shot. The guy jumps up and yells foul. My buddy says, "No, the ball didn't move 1"." He walks away with the cash.
It is the ultimate banger rule: hit 'em hard and pray!pharaoh68 said:What about hitting three rails instead of hitting any object balls. You can play the 8 but miss it entirely. as long as the cue ball contacts three rails, its a legal hit!
puckdaddy said:Ive never understood this rule. For example if Im trying to draw a ball and miscue and the ball jumps but still makes contact, is that a foul. Even though someone scooping to jump a ball and contacting it, how is that different than miscues like I mentioned. How can it be called a foul?
Gage said:3.26 ILLEGAL JUMPING OF BALL
It is a foul if a player strikes the cue ball below center (“digs under” or “lofts” the cue ball) and intentionally causes it to rise off the bed of the table in an effort to clear an obstructing ball. Such jumping action may occasionally occur accidentally, and such “jumps” are not to be considered fouls on their face; they may still be ruled foul strokes, if for example, the ferrule or cue shaft makes contact with the cue ball in the course of the shot.
From http://www.bca-pool.com
I think one of the weirdest rules I have seen was that it was OK to sink the 8-ball on the same shot as the last ball, as long as the 8 went in last.