The DUMBEST bar rules.....GO...

Colin Colenso said:
These are the standard competition rules in England, Australia, Ireland, Scottland and a few other countries.

They play 8-ball this way in Israel, too. Interesting version of the game!
 
JIGS said:
Was at a local bar and I broke and scratched so the guy says.. "you lost". I tried to explain to him that this was not a rule and he proceeded to tell me how he's a league player and knows ALL the rules. He was pretty agressive about it too.. Then his twin brother comes up and tells me how he knows its not a rule but he has to side with his brother... LMAO
Anyway we played out the game and I won.. :)
That was the first time I've heard that one.

Christine
Some fool told me that too.
I asked him, whose rules?
He said the "pro rules".
I asked him how many pro tournaments he's seen.
He paused.
I told him I've seen three world 8-ball championship in Vegas.
He shut up after that.:eek:
 
I talked the owner and players at the local watering hole into using what are basically BCA rules with slight modifications for coin op table. At first there were some guys who bit*hed and moaned, but now everyone has gotten used to them. He has the rules available by both tables in both English and Spanish in case of a rules question or for guys that are not familiar with them.

Over the years I've gotten the owner (who is a good friend) to change from cheap fuzzy cloth to Simonis 860 on both tables. I've also talked him into making sure the tables are cleaned at the start of each shift (brushed and vac'ed). He has the cloth replaced every three to four months. The balls are cleaned every other day. There are two sets of Aramith Premiers for everyday use, and two sets of Aramith Super Pros for league and tournament use. He always has a gross of blue Master chalk on hand and the chalk is replaced before it gets that deep hole in it.

In exchange, I went out and got three league teams (TAP, APA, and local Tavern Owner's Association leagues) for the bar, started and run a popular weekly 9 ball tournament on Saturdays (house matches 100% of the pot, players split the quarters to play) and got a group of free spending last pocket 8 ball players to switch their regular Friday afternoon get together to my friend's bar. Sundays were slow so I got a shake bottle and peas and taught a bunch of guys how to play pea pool and now Sunday nights are pea pool nights for a regular group of guys. Nowadays, those tables get constant use from noon to closing (2:00 AM).

My friend is happy 'cause he makes real good money from food, drinks, and the money going into the table, and the players are happy 'cause they have the best bar boxes and equipment in town to play on. It's a win-win all around.:)
 
Slowhand said:
How about when they're taking practice strokes and bump the QB. If it rolls less than an inch, it's not a foul and you don't lose your turn. :eek: :confused:

Gotta love that one!!
 
I have a buddy who played in a small town tournament when on vacation. They had the 1" rule but he didn't know. He called a foul when his opponent bumped the CB. Hill-hill later and my buddy has only the 8 left. No jump shots allowed, the other guy leaves him just barely hidden behind one of his balls. My buddy taps the CB sideways about 1/2", then proceeds to shoot the now clean shot. The guy jumps up and yells foul. My buddy says, "No, the ball didn't move 1"." He walks away with the cash.
 
This thread is just like someone dragging there fingernails across a blackboard.:) Lots of bad memories of cowboy pool games. They are just like cowboy poker games, you know that someone is going to have a fight. I hear "Did that ball move" sometimes in my sleep.
 
phjunky said:
Another bar rule that i kinda hate is on 8ball, if you sink a ball on the break, you have to pick this kind, you don't have the choice.

This is one I hate the most! QB in the kitchen on a scratch coming in a close 2nd.
 
runscott said:
The guys in my local bar play these exact rules.

The weirdest I ever experienced was playing 8-ball in Ireland back in the '80s. The opponent got one ball in hand for each violation, so if you hit the wrong ball, and scratched, he got two consecutive shots, i.e - shoot until miss, then shoot again. I'm not sure what would happen if he scratched on his first shot.


So, if I scoop-jumped the cueball (foul) and did not hit my ball (foul) and knocked one of his balls off the table (foul) and bumped a ball with my cuestick after the shot (foul) and scratched (foul).... I guess I would be about finished for that game!
 
Well how about the dumbest player?

There is a BCA rules 8-ball tournament and a summary of the rules is *posted*. Plus there is a copy of the BCA rule book there for anyone to read. In addition to this, many of the players in the tournament know BCA rules quite well - play in many BCA rules tournaments...

So this bar rules player starts giving "advice" to other players on what is a legal break - says you must hit the headball first. (Truth: You can hit any ball, but must drive 4 numbered balls to a rail for a legal break.) And this guy is sitting right under a posted summary of the BCA rules!

So about three other players tried to correct him. He did not seem to be able to understand. We gave up...

With some of these people, when playing BCA rules, you can show them the rule in the book - they will not even look at it! They will insist they are right because "so and so" told them, etc.... Argggg!
 
Colin Colenso said:
These are the standard competition rules in England, Australia, Ireland, Scottland and a few other countries. I played most my pool under these rules and they are pretty good rules for the tables we play on (tight pockets). But I do prefer pool on US tables with BIH rules as it is a more aggressive game.

To answer your question, if you foul when you have 2 visits, you lose them both and the opponent gets 2 visits.

The game is more strategical as pocketing the opponent's ball is a foul, even when you hit your own ball first. This combined with tight pockets that make it hard to pot balls down rails, invite a lot of pocket covering and subsequent tactical battles around the control of pockets. Quite often a player will deliberately foul and give away 2 visits to gain control over a pocket.

When playing a deliberate foul, you usually attempt to leave the CB in a position so that the player's first shot is very hard as they must play from where the CB finishes, or from the baulk area if it is a scratch.

If the opponent cannot hit both sides of at least one of his balls after a foul, he is awarded a foul snooker, which means he can nominate the opponent's ball as one of his own. This makes for some real chess like battles and some fine control of clusters of balls around pockets.

At the higher levels of the game it is still basically a run out game with an occassional tactical battle, but at league levels where players aren't confident of running their last few balls, there is a lot of strategy play.

Many of the top level players in this game are very accurate shooters with strong snooker backgrounds. A few of the IPT players have been world champions in this 2-shot form of 8-ball. Mick Hill, Darren Appleton and Quinten Hann come to mind.

Obviously, these rules would NEVER work in an American bar... it would be like oil and water... these rules and Budweiser just don't mix.

Can you imagine the arguments and weird rules that would spring up after instituting these rules in some podunk bar in The States??
 
cuenut said:
I have a buddy who played in a small town tournament when on vacation. They had the 1" rule but he didn't know. He called a foul when his opponent bumped the CB. Hill-hill later and my buddy has only the 8 left. No jump shots allowed, the other guy leaves him just barely hidden behind one of his balls. My buddy taps the CB sideways about 1/2", then proceeds to shoot the now clean shot. The guy jumps up and yells foul. My buddy says, "No, the ball didn't move 1"." He walks away with the cash.

That's what I always say!!! Shoot by their rules and THEY will end up crying! BCA (or similar) rules are just the best you can have for a fair game.

I love that story. Love it! Made my day! He could have bumped it another 1" after that if the shot didn't work... or another 1" after that....

What a bunch of sissies!
 
What about hitting three rails instead of hitting any object balls. You can play the 8 but miss it entirely. as long as the cue ball contacts three rails, its a legal hit!

I love playing bar bangers. You will never see a guy's (insert word of choice here) shrivel up faster than when his ego is crushed by you breaking and running out on him and making it look as easy as Sigel! Man that's fun! :D
 
I hate the bar rule that you cannot play the 8 in off of or make contact with another ball. Totally rediculous!! Sometimes I don't mind playing by bar rules as long as they aren't totally off the wall.

When I was in England I found the 2 shot foul rule once you get used to it to add to the game. It was funny how they use the red and yellow un-numbered balls so you can only play 8 ball.
 
pharaoh68 said:
What about hitting three rails instead of hitting any object balls. You can play the 8 but miss it entirely. as long as the cue ball contacts three rails, its a legal hit!
It is the ultimate banger rule: hit 'em hard and pray!
 
scoop rule?

Ive never understood this rule. For example if Im trying to draw a ball and miscue and the ball jumps but still makes contact, is that a foul. Even though someone scooping to jump a ball and contacting it, how is that different than miscues like I mentioned. How can it be called a foul?
 
puckdaddy said:
Ive never understood this rule. For example if Im trying to draw a ball and miscue and the ball jumps but still makes contact, is that a foul. Even though someone scooping to jump a ball and contacting it, how is that different than miscues like I mentioned. How can it be called a foul?

3.26 ILLEGAL JUMPING OF BALL
It is a foul if a player strikes the cue ball below center (“digs under” or “lofts” the cue ball) and intentionally causes it to rise off the bed of the table in an effort to clear an obstructing ball. Such jumping action may occasionally occur accidentally, and such “jumps” are not to be considered fouls on their face; they may still be ruled foul strokes, if for example, the ferrule or cue shaft makes contact with the cue ball in the course of the shot.

From http://www.bca-pool.com


I think one of the weirdest rules I have seen was that it was OK to sink the 8-ball on the same shot as the last ball, as long as the 8 went in last.
 
Gage said:
3.26 ILLEGAL JUMPING OF BALL
It is a foul if a player strikes the cue ball below center (“digs under” or “lofts” the cue ball) and intentionally causes it to rise off the bed of the table in an effort to clear an obstructing ball. Such jumping action may occasionally occur accidentally, and such “jumps” are not to be considered fouls on their face; they may still be ruled foul strokes, if for example, the ferrule or cue shaft makes contact with the cue ball in the course of the shot.

From http://www.bca-pool.com


I think one of the weirdest rules I have seen was that it was OK to sink the 8-ball on the same shot as the last ball, as long as the 8 went in last.

Do you have to call it?? Or is it just considered okay because you made the ball you called first? Their is no first in Pool!! How about if you are on the 8 and don't hit it you automatically lose. The kicker is it comes right after the other guy pulls one of those roll up behind a ball nothing to the rail safeties. Of course then the guy starts prancing around the table!!:confused: :eek:
 
This thread has provided me with many laughs and smiles... Good work!

It has also made me really REALLY miss my usual pool friends, 6000-some miles away. One more month of overseas work and I'm home free!!!
 
the opponent chooses the pocket where u have to pot the 8ball.

(funny part: he has to choose wich pocket at the end, so after u sunk the last of your ball. :D)

the guy told me it was how the played in the army base or some crap :D

i never laughed so much in my life. as u couldnt play position, i just made a 3cussion pot and won, but i still payed him his drink for thanking him for the laugh. i think he changed the rulez 10 times in 3 matches. Man he was GOOD and funny :D
 
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