The game I invented and have started playing.

[Jaden]

The game I recently invented while practicing on the snooker table, I call "Progressive Rotation".

It's played with the skill balls, that is the standard fifteen balls used in pool but smaller for a snooker table. It's played on a 6X12 but I guess it could really be played on any table.

It's rotation, so you play 1-15, and it's scored progressively, hence the name. That is to say that the first ball you pocket in any inning is worth 1 point and any subsequently pocketed ball in that same inning is counted as 1 additional point. So if you come to the table and start on the five, and then make the six, seven, eight without missing, you would score 10 points for that inning. IF you also made the nine in that inning you would score fifteen.

This means that if you run a rack of progressive rotation, you would get 122 points. Anything over a century in a rack would be excellent pool, especially on a snooker table. I think that this game could be considered the ultimate test of skill between two players.

What do you guys think????

Jaden.

 

[JCIN]

The game I recently invented while practicing on the snooker table, I call "Progressive Rotation".

It's played with the skill balls, that is the standard fifteen balls used in pool but smaller for a snooker table. It's played on a 6X12 but I guess it could really be played on any table.

It's rotation, so you play 1-15, and it's scored progressively, hence the name. That is to say that the first ball you pocket in any inning is worth 1 point and any subsequently pocketed ball in that same inning is counted as 1 additional point. So if you come to the table and start on the five, and then make the six, seven, eight without missing, you would score 10 points for that inning. IF you also made the nine in that inning you would score fifteen.

This means that if you run a rack of progressive rotation, you would get 122 points. Anything over a century in a rack would be excellent pool, especially on a snooker table. I think that this game could be considered the ultimate test of skill between two players.

What do you guys think????

Jaden.

I agree it would be a great test of skill. Only problem I see is that I bet there are under 50 6X12 snooker tables in the US open to the public. The only ones I have ever seen were at Hard Times in LA. I know there isnt one in Indy and there sure aint one in Poo Falls. But if you got access I am sure it would improve your game.

 

[Pushout]

It's rotation, so you play 1-15, and it's scored progressively, hence the name. That is to say that the first ball you pocket in any inning is worth 1 point and any subsequently pocketed ball in that same inning is counted as 1 additional point. So if you come to the table and start on the five, and then make the six, seven, eight without missing, you would score 10 points for that inning. IF you also made the nine in that inning you would score fifteen.
Jaden.

I'm confused. You say it's Rotation, which is scored numerically, or the balls are worth their number value. Then you say the first ball is worth one point plus any other balls scored are worth one point. It's late and I'm tired, but that makes the five, six, seven, and eight worth 4 points, more if scored the way Rotation is scored. How do you get ten points? I may read this tomorrow and it will make sense, but it doesn't now.

 

[av84fun]

I'm confused. You say it's Rotation, which is scored numerically, or the balls are worth their number value. Then you say the first ball is worth one point plus any other balls scored are worth one point. It's late and I'm tired, but that makes the five, six, seven, and eight worth 4 points, more if scored the way Rotation is scored. How do you get ten points? I may read this tomorrow and it will make sense, but it doesn't now.

I don't get it either.

 

[Patrick Johnson]

I'm confused. You say it's Rotation, which is scored numerically, or the balls are worth their number value. Then you say the first ball is worth one point plus any other balls scored are worth one point. It's late and I'm tired, but that makes the five, six, seven, and eight worth 4 points, more if scored the way Rotation is scored. How do you get ten points? I may read this tomorrow and it will make sense, but it doesn't now.

He means each ball is worth one more than the one before. So four balls are worth 1+2+3+4=10 and five balls are worth 1+2+3+4+5=15.

Personally, I don't see what's so "ultimate" or even new about it. It's just rotation on a snooker table but starting each inning as if you're on the 1 ball again.

pj
chgo

 

[Jaden]

Patrick actually got it...

Yes, if you make the 1 ball, you get one point. If you make the 1 and 2 balls in a row, you get 3 points. and so on.

The reason that it's better than other rotation games is that it is not based on who makes the final ball. If in ten ball you make the one through nine and then miss, your opponent wins whether he's the better player or not.

The other reason that I came up with this game is that it has the skill of potting required for snooker, and in many cases more skill because you have to get shape for all over the table and reuires the other skills from American pool games. With all of the talk about how snooker is so much more difficult, I'd like to come up with a self scoring version of this game like driver maker tournament and see how some of our UK compatriots do on the game on a snooker table compared to some of the stronger US players.

I'm sure we would have to video tape both parties in this instance to avoid any fudging of the numbers.

But just to make sure that this is perfectly clear, if player one steps to the table and pockets the 1,2,3 and then misses, he would score 6 points. If the opponent then comes to the table and only makes the 4, he would score 1 point. Player one steps back to the table and makes the 5,6,7,8, he would score ten points. Player two steps back to the table and runsout for the 9,10,11,12,13,14,15, he scores 28 points I believe. It would be pretty easy to make up a chart that shows the various point totals for balls run.

So in this instance, player 1 would have 16 points and player 2 would have 29. Even though player two missed after his first pot he made a much more difficult run of seven balls. and even though he only made one more total ball than player 1, his more difficult run was rewarded with 13 more points. which beats awarding a point for each ball and isn't as unfair as having a static point value for each ball.

You then play to a specific number of points and have alternating breaks.

Jaden

 

[av84fun]

Got it. Interesting variation on traditional rotation that I have always felt is improbably scored.

In fact, due to the large number of blockers, the most difficult balls to pocket are the lowest numbered balls that have the least point value.

To be logical, it should be played in inverse numerical order with the 15 ball being the first OB...but hey, it's an old and venerable game that many have enjoyed. So be it.

The way I see it, your game also grants greater value to balls when they become easier to pocket...due to fewer and fewer blockers being present.

But, at least you "recycle" the scoring back to 1 point at the beginning of each inning which does away with the traditional rotation illogic of one player missing after pocketing 8 balls for a score of 36 and leaving 84points on the table for making one less ball with a vastly easier layout.

Innovation is always good and personally, I think you have improved upon traditional rotation.

But personally, I prefer the "1 ball, 1 point" aspect of 9 Ball and think that 10 Ball is fine for those who want to toughen the game...at the cost of lengthening it as well.

Regards,
Jim