The generation before Efren...

I found this little tidbit about "Boy Bicol":

http://forum.philboxing.com/viewtopic.php?p=564134&sid=4deed88bbbeadb32b2972831cc8cbba5

Apparently, Maning Ramos aka "Boy Bicol" was only the country's no. 2 player at that time. I am assuming that Amang Parica is no. 1 and Efren is just an up and coming player then.

Let me share to you my first hand encounter with Efren in 1978.
It was at he Coronado Bowling Lanes in Cubbao,Q.C. I was only 19 then and Efren was 24 or 25. He has no front teeth. Me and the gang were playing when we saw a money match had been arranged between the late Maning Ramos alias 'boy bicol", the country's no.2 player, against a toothless and unassuming guy who seems to perpetually smoke like a chimmey. There was "weight" or a spot given to one of the players. 50 & 70 as they call it in rotation. We knew boy bicol and his seemingly inhuman talent on the pool table but we were in for the surprise of our lives, if only for this unforgetable introduction to Efren Reyes. Our eyes widened when we saw it was boy bicol who was given the spot. And for good reason indeed. Our jaws literally dropped to the floor watching the great Efren 'bata" Reyes in his prime cleaning up the 15-ball rotation gane in just 3 or 4 minutes a game. I mean per game ! Efren was automatic. He was getting out rack after rack. He takes a couple of seconds on the first shot only and its mopping-up operations from then on. He was silent and deadly althroughout the game. His focus was extraordinary. Like he's in a trance, when in fact, he's in dead stroke from the onset. I cannot believe there's a living player on the planet who can play like that. Awesome is an understatement . He was a fast shooter when he was still "bata" in age.
In later years, I asked some of Efren's contemporaries on what separates Efren from the rest, and they say that he has eight or nine balls preparation in advance, as compared with the 4 ball sequence w/c was the norm for their already top level poll game. I am convinced that no player n in the world can contend with a prime Efren Reyes in 1978. He was that great...
 
Apparently, Maning Ramos aka "Boy Bicol" was only the country's no. 2 player at that time. I am assuming that Amang Parica is no. 1 and Efren is just an up and coming player then.


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Let me share to you my first hand encounter with Efren in 1978.
It was at he Coronado Bowling Lanes in Cubbao,Q.C. I was only 19 then and Efren was 24 or 25. He has no front teeth. Me and the gang were playing when we saw a money match had been arranged between the late Maning Ramos alias 'boy bicol", the country's no.2 player, against a toothless and unassuming guy who seems to perpetually smoke like a chimmey. There was "weight" or a spot given to one of the players. 50 & 70 as they call it in rotation. We knew boy bicol and his seemingly inhuman talent on the pool table but we were in for the surprise of our lives, if only for this unforgetable introduction to Efren Reyes. Our eyes widened when we saw it was boy bicol who was given the spot. And for good reason indeed. Our jaws literally dropped to the floor watching the great Efren 'bata" Reyes in his prime cleaning up the 15-ball rotation gane in just 3 or 4 minutes a game. I mean per game ! Efren was automatic. He was getting out rack after rack. He takes a couple of seconds on the first shot only and its mopping-up operations from then on. He was silent and deadly althroughout the game. His focus was extraordinary. Like he's in a trance, when in fact, he's in dead stroke from the onset. I cannot believe there's a living player on the planet who can play like that. Awesome is an understatement . He was a fast shooter when he was still "bata" in age.
In later years, I asked some of Efren's contemporaries on what separates Efren from the rest, and they say that he has eight or nine balls preparation in advance, as compared with the 4 ball sequence w/c was the norm for their already top level poll game. I am convinced that no player n in the world can contend with a prime Efren Reyes in 1978. He was that great...

It is my belief that only a few players here in the states ever could or did play this good, my thinking is maybe one or two. When your life, dinner, living and not living are brought into winning or losing, the final level a player can ever reach is reachable and constantly evolving. From only the very bottom can the very top be achieved, one has to know what its like to be nothing then to become not what you had planned but what was planned for 'you'. I think we are very lucky to be alive and see this Picasso of pool, whereas play of this caliber was long ago here in the states, but is upon us now in the 21st century. I think Tiger Woods should see this man play before its too long, he may be humbled by who stands before him. Efren's talent was not formed the way Tigers was, his game was created through something more powerful than Tigers dad teaching him. One on one, I think Bata is better than Tiger Woods in his arena. Pool you never start off with the same shot from the tee box, pool is way more difficult to be the best because of 'random' aspects that constantly confront you.
 
filipino gene

jay helfert said:
The first filipino I saw in the states was "Filipino Gene" in San Francisco. He has been there since the 60's. Still playing too, and he played good.
No one could beat him shooting behind his back.
I remember him from the Cochran days when Grady was working the counter. He was a fixture there. Great old days.
 
effren not only can place the cue ball anywhere on the table he can place it fractions of fractional inches from the pocket dip. Seeing control like that in person was overwhelming to say the least.

Too bad he doesn't practice his english often enough he'd probably be amazing to talk with.

Anybody with a foreign accent that speaks english is funny. The kind of funny that does not require thinking. Because few people have the skill to speak in that manner.
 
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