Cueaddicts,
I have calling him an A-hole, a moron and half wit, nothing more. I also told him to "mind his own _____business", where I inserted **** (this was not blocked by admin, I used my keyboard to make them). That was the extent of any "profanity" if you can call it that. By the way, I would love to call him a few choice words much stronger than that.
And yes Joe (or whoever he is) starting the whole mess. The initial post, which you must not have seen was pulled as well. Two posts pulled to my knowlege. He indirectly attacked me in this thread as well.
As far as the shafts, the weight was the least of the issues. You can go back and check out my list of complaints. The shafts weighed spot on 2.5 oz. on my scale (and no it is not a digital scale) two years ago. The shafts weighed 3.2 oz. spot on on a digital scale when I sent them to Skip two years later. Should I have made sure that I weighed them more accurately? Maybe. Could the weight have changed? Maybe. All my other shafts weight almost 4 ounces. The difference in weight was dramatic. But again, this was one of at least 7 issues that I had with the shafts. I never intentially tried to suger coat my problems with his shafts. The shaft weight paled in comparison to several of the other issues that I had with them.
The shafts sat unused in my case for two years. They were not usuable. I took them to 3 cuemakers here in Colorado who told me to basically "junk them", they were not worth trying to repair. All the "issues" that I had with the shafts, with the possible exception of the exact weight, can be verified by several people. Heck, even Skip Weston said that the shafts were "pretty rough....and not salvagable". Wake up...the shafts were no good.
Joe has done all the provoking and attacking. He has also been asked by Skip Weston to stop this. What is so ironic is that classiccues is doing nothing more than reminding people of a deal that went south between Skip Weston and myself. If anyone is causing Skip to lose business, that person is classiccues. He seems to be Skip's own worse enemy.
Skip is supposedly making two new shafts. He was made aware of my problems with these shafts within a week of my receiving them. I sent several emails and left phone messages. I never heard another peep from Skip Weston for almost 2 years. That was until he became aware that another cuemaker was going to try and fix "the shafts". Skip and I exchanged about 10 emails back and forth. Skip offered to make new shafts. upon completion, I offered to remove my azbilliards complaints and post a resolution of our conflict. That was, until good o'l classiccues reared his ugly head.
At any rate, this is the very last thing that I am going to say about the matter until Skip completes the shafts. At that time, I will give a report of the outcome. In truth, I kissed the $340 I spent on the shafts goodbye two years ago. Whatever I get from Skip can't be any worse than the original shafts. In fact, I'll let two other azbilliards members give their impressions so as to remain unbiased.
So keep spewing your venom classiccues. I don't give a hoot. You're not hurting my business, only Skips. So knock yourself out....you've made my ignore list. : )
later,
Doug
cueaddicts said:
What initial post (the one that was yanked due to your use of profanity that no one can see now)? I don't think Joe has provoked you or personally attacked you in this thread. You seem to be the one making it personal and keeping it going.
And BTW, not sure it would be "hearsay" since Skip lives about 10 minutes from Joe and he's probably already seen the shafts weighed on a scale. You chose to make this a public issue for the last X months downing Skip's work because of these shafts. It's not very fair now for you to try to quell a discussion about their actual weight if they are not 2.5oz.
BTW, Joe probably won't post another word regarding this matter if you would just say how much the shafts weighed.