The Hustlers: episode 9 Atlantic City

Just out of curiosity, how much money would it take to get you to toss your reputation into the wind, sell out, and throw a match on a TV show?

100?
300?
500?
1000?

The better question is if you had to pick one did he dump or was he supposed to do it

I'm all in on the latter

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I know that Mike, Jen, Gary, Gregg, and Jarrod played as a team but I found myself rooting against Gary in his match. I know nothing about him but what I've seen on this TV show, but he seems like a big crybaby to me. He was complaining that no one was cheering for him during his match like they were the other players... Here's an idea, shut up and play and don't worry about what's happening on the sideline. Especially if everyone on the sideline is quiet so you can concentrate because they know how big of a crybaby you can be if someone is doing something that you find distracting.
I haven't seen this one yet, but I watched with my family a few weeks ago, when Gary and Jen played, and I was surprised that my girls were rooting for Gary. They thought that Gary was a flawed but basically good and up-front person, whereas some of the others, especially Jen (whom I thought they would like) were protrayed as being a bit too perfect.
 
Ha Ha

Hey Sean, didn't you ever "ditch" people in high school?
I'm sure they ditched him


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Ted hope your well haven't talk to you in a while, I see you still
have a great sense of humor. To answer your question yes I did.
 
Less Ross and Amy make a better episode, they could just fill that time with Mike Deshaine racking balls over and over.
 
The show just keeps getting better! Looking forward to next weeks episode and a season 2!:thumbup:
 
Idk I had Adam as a favorite over Jarod. Some ppl think it's scripted so that Jarod wins and there's a feeling of catharsis. I kinda feel that way as I've been a part of a tv show and have seen it first hand, but then again he could have just been nervous in front of the camera w everyone acting like hooligans.

I talked to Jose the room owner after the crew left and he said that they encourage them to do a lot of talking and sharking to make it interesting to the non pool player viewer.

If this show catches on and gets ppl into pool... I can't wait to see the shenanigans... Lol
 
Ross and Amy are comic relief.

*spoiler*
When Ross commented that he was hoping Amy would move in and split the rent, that was a side splitter. Last time one of my friends charged his girlfriend rent, she became his ex-girlfriend.



Less Ross and Amy make a better episode, they could just fill that time with Mike Deshaine racking balls over and over.
 
Idk I had Adam as a favorite over Jarod. Some ppl think it's scripted so that Jarod wins and there's a feeling of catharsis. I kinda feel that way as I've been a part of a tv show and have seen it first hand, but then again he could have just been nervous in front of the camera w everyone acting like hooligans.

I talked to Jose the room owner after the crew left and he said that they encourage them to do a lot of talking and sharking to make it interesting to the non pool player viewer.

If this show catches on and gets ppl into pool... I can't wait to see the shenanigans... Lol

What's funny is Matt never says much so trying to get him to talk more is like pulling teeth and have never seen him smile after he loses so I guess he enjoyed it ,

Adam on the other hand I expected more talk from him he's usualy got a little spunk in him and Jose Burgus if I spelled that right I have also known him for yrs he ran the blaze tour , planet pool , and now the Mezz tour ,, in fact I ofton shoot with a Decola cue I bought from him great guy IMHO , I would have loved seeing him with a little more of his chatter he's a natural for this type show , they just might been a little camera shy

All in all I think this was the best show more pool is good but I like some of the other stuff as well , the fast forward was better than skipping shots it keeps it real as it could be

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First off it's already been stated that it's scripted but the games are real ,, and I really try to believe that but when I see Adam who I have seen play numeras times a kid who has beat Allen Hop in one pocket and he fires at the one ball with extreme low and sucks the cueball in the side pocket,, on hill hill I question it
If I had money on that match I would be beside myself thinking he threw the match

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listen...take the tinfoil off your hat...adam should have won that set 4 games before
he became unglued and the rolls went against him and he lost...i know this never happened to anyone here because nobody misses on the internet but i think im done chiming in.
btw did you notice you are never right?
 
Not real TV? Huh? I'm not sure that even makes sense.

I'm not saying this to specifically argue with you but I think there's something that needs to be understood by all.

" Real TV " is 100% scripted, down to every noun, verb and adjective, and of course edited to produce a precise storyline and or product. The attraction of " reality" Tv is of course the unpredictable nature of human interaction and emotion, ie the things you cannot accurately predict or script.

Pool, like every game, is inherently dramatic and full of suspense at every turn. Just like, as an example, football. And in the case of football, using the super bowl as an example, large amounts of money and time are spent to " set up" this scenario, basically just to see what will happen, because, as we all know, something dramatic WILL happen.

Now is that to say that the super bowl is scripted? In a way, it is. But in reality, just like on The Hustlers, it's not, because nobody can know in advance what will ultimately happen.
It's a game, not a story being written in advance.

Like the superbowl, there has to be a premise for the game to take place at all, an artificial reason must be created to hold the contest in the first place. It's not like caveman days when a man needed to overpower other men for food and mates. We, as men, constantly create " artificial" premises to compete against each other, and The Hustlers is no different than any other contest.

As for getting paid " anyway"( regardless of the outcome), do we really expect all these people to spend all the time involved for taping the show, for nothing? Who can afford to spend time showing up for free? Who wants to be on TV and get paid nothing for it? I don't and I wouldn't.

As for motivation to win, what would you rather take home , 500 or 1500?
Who in their right mind would think..." screw it, it's only a grand" when all they have to do is play the game they love? Not me...I love free money and dont know anyone who doesn't.

Just because these people aren't dressed in rags, spitting on the floor and slapping their girlfriends around doesn't mean it's not real people playing a real game. If anything it's probably a little more polite than real gambling...but from what I've heard about the personal conflicts off camera, it's pretty damn real, trust me, some people are lucky to still be on the show at all.

End rant/

The Superbowl analogy is brilliant because it's so relevant to competitive reality series( which the hustlers is).
I tried to green rep this but I need to spread some around first.

I'm sure the naysayers aren't saying Tom Brady won't perform his best because he's getting paid, yet they claim Hustlers is not reality because the players are getting paid.That's a laughable argument.
 
First off it's already been stated that it's scripted but the games are real ,, and I really try to believe that but when I see Adam who I have seen play numeras times a kid who has beat Allen Hop in one pocket and he fires at the one ball with extreme low and sucks the cueball in the side pocket,, on hill hill I question it
If I had money on that match I would be beside myself thinking he threw the match

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ESPN tournament of champions 2014, Shane misses routine 8 ball in the side to get to nine and close out Darren in Tie breaker rack to get to finals.

ESPN tournament of champions 2014, Darren plays terrible safe and leaves Thorsten a shot in final rack of the finals. Thorsten runs out to victory.

Sometimes when the cameras are on, and money is on the line, even the best miss shots. Why must the first reaction be "he threw the match" but in REALITY, he just choked.
 
Look, Finnegan said they get the money from the producers to gamble with, they get to keep the money, but all the games and dialogue is hardly scripted except for the occasional edit, bc certain things do not work for TV. I was at steinway monday, Gary is just as obnoxius and an even bigger DICK in real life than on that show. they are pool players, not actors. I saw an episode of Gotham being shot a few days back in a garage, they shot the same scene 6 times to get it right. reality tv shows are for the most part just video'd on the go, some shots need to be recreated or changed, it adds to the show. If you're dumb enough to argue about reality tv's authenticity, well, that's another story. It's a damn pool show on a TV network, I don't care if they get emily to blow guys off in the back for action money, it's a pool show on TV. you're supposed to be pool players, just be ****in happy it's getting a minute bit of attention. if a bigger network see's potential, they can shoot an actual acted out show, pool hall junkie style. it's free money for me if they get three hundred new people to play in tournaments.
 
listen...take the tinfoil off your hat...adam should have won that set 4 games before
he became unglued and the rolls went against him and he lost...i know this never happened to anyone here because nobody misses on the internet but i think im done chiming in.
btw did you notice you are never right?

Ho Ho Ho

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Trolls will lie, exaggerate, and offend to get a response.
Post published by Jennifer Golbeck Ph.D. on Sep 18, 2014 in Your Online Secrets

In this month's issue of Personality and Individual Differences, a study was published that confirms what we all suspected: Internet trolls are horrible people.

Let's start by getting our definitions straight: An Internet troll is someone who comes into a discussion and posts comments designed to upset or disrupt the conversation. Often, in fact, it seems like there is no real purpose behind their comments except to upset everyone else involved. Trolls will lie, exaggerate, and offend to get a response.

What kind of person would do this? Some Canadian researchers decided to find out.

They conducted two online studies with over 1,200 people, giving personality tests to each subject along with a survey about their Internet commenting behavior. They were looking for evidence that linked trolling with the "Dark Tetrad" of personality traits: narcissism, Machiavellianism, psychopathy, and sadism.

They found that Dark Tetrad scores were highest among people who said trolling was their favorite Internet activity. To get an idea of how much more prevalent these traits were among Internet trolls, see this figure from the paper:

Look at how low the Dark Tetrad scores are for everyone except the trolls! Their scores for all four traits soar on the chart. The relationship between trolling and the Dark Tetrad is so significant that the authors write in their paper:

"... the associations between sadism and GAIT (Global Assessment of Internet Trolling) scores were so strong that it might be said that online trolls are prototypical everyday sadists." [emphasis added]

Trolls truly enjoy making you feel bad. To quote the authors once more (because this is a truly quotable article): "Both trolls and sadists feel sadistic glee at the distress of others. Sadists just want to have fun ... and the Internet is their playground!"

The next time you encounter a troll online, remember:

These trolls are some truly difficult people.
It is your suffering that brings them pleasure, so the best thing you can do is ignore them.

References

Buckels, Erin E., Paul D. Trapnell, and Delroy L. Paulhus. "Trolls just want to have fun." Personality and Individual Differences67 (2014): 97-102.

Psychology Today
 
Trolls will lie, exaggerate, and offend to get a response.

Post published by Jennifer Golbeck Ph.D. on Sep 18, 2014 in Your Online Secrets



In this month's issue of Personality and Individual Differences, a study was published that confirms what we all suspected: Internet trolls are horrible people.



Let's start by getting our definitions straight: An Internet troll is someone who comes into a discussion and posts comments designed to upset or disrupt the conversation. Often, in fact, it seems like there is no real purpose behind their comments except to upset everyone else involved. Trolls will lie, exaggerate, and offend to get a response.



What kind of person would do this? Some Canadian researchers decided to find out.



They conducted two online studies with over 1,200 people, giving personality tests to each subject along with a survey about their Internet commenting behavior. They were looking for evidence that linked trolling with the "Dark Tetrad" of personality traits: narcissism, Machiavellianism, psychopathy, and sadism.



They found that Dark Tetrad scores were highest among people who said trolling was their favorite Internet activity. To get an idea of how much more prevalent these traits were among Internet trolls, see this figure from the paper:



Look at how low the Dark Tetrad scores are for everyone except the trolls! Their scores for all four traits soar on the chart. The relationship between trolling and the Dark Tetrad is so significant that the authors write in their paper:



"... the associations between sadism and GAIT (Global Assessment of Internet Trolling) scores were so strong that it might be said that online trolls are prototypical everyday sadists." [emphasis added]



Trolls truly enjoy making you feel bad. To quote the authors once more (because this is a truly quotable article): "Both trolls and sadists feel sadistic glee at the distress of others. Sadists just want to have fun ... and the Internet is their playground!"



The next time you encounter a troll online, remember:



These trolls are some truly difficult people.

It is your suffering that brings them pleasure, so the best thing you can do is ignore them.



References



Buckels, Erin E., Paul D. Trapnell, and Delroy L. Paulhus. "Trolls just want to have fun." Personality and Individual Differences67 (2014): 97-102.



Psychology Today


Excellent post, Narcissists feel the need to display what they feel to be their "superior intellect" to others to reaffirm this self perceived superiority to themselves.
 
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