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Jay you are funny, but cool. Someday we should play a few games of one
pocket, not for money but for the sport and the love of the game. I heard you are a good one pocket player from my brother. I believe one of life's best encounters is playing one pocket with a strong player. To me its a enjoyable challenge and like playing chess with another good player.
pocket, not for money but for the sport and the love of the game. I heard you are a good one pocket player from my brother. I believe one of life's best encounters is playing one pocket with a strong player. To me its a enjoyable challenge and like playing chess with another good player.
inthezone ......
I just talked to Bucktooth on the phone and knew of Kilroy, he thought
he may have met and talked to him serveral times here in California as he came through the state years ago. He recalls him as a hustler and a good player, how well did Kilroy play?
I just talked to Bucktooth on the phone and knew of Kilroy, he thought
he may have met and talked to him serveral times here in California as he came through the state years ago. He recalls him as a hustler and a good player, how well did Kilroy play?
roncook said:
If you get down to L.A. let me know and we can get together. Same if I'm coming up your way. We play for dinner, at the restaurant of your choice. How's that?
The most 9-ball racks I've ran is prob 6 (without counting 9's on the break), but I get 2-3 pretty consistantly.
This last Thursday I watched Sigel walk in the room and run 7 1/2 racks of 14.1 cold. I know that's not a giant 14.1 run, but I thought it was pretty impressive since on the way someone rearended his new Mercedes on I-4.
This last Thursday I watched Sigel walk in the room and run 7 1/2 racks of 14.1 cold. I know that's not a giant 14.1 run, but I thought it was pretty impressive since on the way someone rearended his new Mercedes on I-4.
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It's Kosmanski
Kilroy never played better than shortstop speed, but he was a top player in hustling, conversation, borrowing money and promoting himself and others. He was such a devoted hustler that he never allowed himself to be photographed. There are no known photos of him anywhere. He wound up the counter-man at Detroit's famous Rack and Cue. A fabulous pool character.
the Beard
roncook said:
Kilroy never played better than shortstop speed, but he was a top player in hustling, conversation, borrowing money and promoting himself and others. He was such a devoted hustler that he never allowed himself to be photographed. There are no known photos of him anywhere. He wound up the counter-man at Detroit's famous Rack and Cue. A fabulous pool character.
the Beard
Dinner spounds good, maybe best 4 out of 7 that would be fun or a race
to 5. We should play before we get much older, my back starts hurting after about 2 hours.
Have you ever played the "Tooth", if so how did you do? Got to run for now its been a long day I went to (2) USPPA tournaments today, its been a long day, I won $90. enough to pay for dinner should we get a chance
to play sometime.
Stay in stroke and keep shooting straight!
to 5. We should play before we get much older, my back starts hurting after about 2 hours.
Have you ever played the "Tooth", if so how did you do? Got to run for now its been a long day I went to (2) USPPA tournaments today, its been a long day, I won $90. enough to pay for dinner should we get a chance
to play sometime.
Stay in stroke and keep shooting straight!
roncook said:
I never bet against your brother or played him, except one time. Many, many years ago, he got the 6 Ball from Billy C. and I bet $100 a game on Tooth. After a couple of hours, I switched and started betting on Billy. It was the only time I ever saw the Tooth go off. After that, if he made a game I wanted to bet on him.
By the way, that character Kilroy came thru my poolroom in Bakersfied once. He hustled all the kids and finally they got Mike Francis to play him. Mike was the best young player around. He beat Kilroy a few games of $5 9-Ball, and he got Mike to switch to One Pocket for $20 a game, and he busted Mike for about $200. I came in at the end and saw what was going on, and that Mike had no chance. I told him to pull up, but he went off anyway.
When Mike quit, i asked Kilroy to play some more One Pocket for $20. He said sure, why not. We flipped a coin, he won, scratched on the break and I ran out. He said that's enough One Pocket for the day and quit, one game loser. I didn't see him again till I went to The Rack in Detroit. I asked him if he remembered me from California. He told me he's never been West of the Mississippi. Some kind of guy.
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I watched Wu(2005 9&8 ball world champion) run first 8 racks in a game in his home country on youtube..if you want to check it out you can also see it at www.cue-tv.com..he got a bit lucky with layouts but still made some great shots to keep run going.
freddy the beard said:
Freddy,
In your next book is the bulk majority of it road stories? I liked nothing more than when my grandfather told old was stories. I was lucky enough to live quite a few myself (for example I was one of the few people who truly witnessed Johnny and Busta's Glass city match up and I even got a little side bet on Busta for every set before they got down) If you ever do write a complete road story book and mention my grandfather it could join my collectables. If you are going to Derby City will you autograph my banking with the beard book?
Only 150 pages of road stories
Huckster,
My next book, The GosPool is going to the printer today. It will contain about 150 pages of road stories and photos and about 100 pages of diagrams, systems and instruction. I will be at Derby City and will have a booth there. I'd love to sign your old book and sell you the new one.
the Beard
huckster said:
Huckster,
My next book, The GosPool is going to the printer today. It will contain about 150 pages of road stories and photos and about 100 pages of diagrams, systems and instruction. I will be at Derby City and will have a booth there. I'd love to sign your old book and sell you the new one.
the Beard
Tooth story
Ok, I will now chip in with my first encounter with Bucktooth. Years back he came into Bensinger's, I didnt know him, and he asked to play $100 a game 1pkt. He also asked to be spotted 9 to 7. In those days, anybody I didnt know could get 8 to 7, at least, in Bensinger's. 9 to 7 to a stranger was a stretch, but I figured I'd shoot 2 barrels at him. Early in the first game, I moved a bunch of balls in front of my pocket and shipped him up table. Without hesitating, he jumped up and popped in a long shot, completely disregarding my loaded pocket. As usual, the table we were on had very small pockets, and the shot he made was low percentage. At that point I stopped the action, put my cue on the table and proceeded to chastise him.
I told him if he wanted to continue getting the premium spot of 9 to 7 he had better forget about making those kind of disrespectful shots, and the next time I load up and ship him up table he had better act like a guy needing two balls and look to play safe or I would discontinue that spot. This forced the 'Tooth to try and win by stalling only, which with my speed then, was impossible. He went for 4 or 5 games before he gave in to the futility of his situation. Once I got winner, if he would have opened up, I would have quit, and he eventually realized that. The next day I wouldnt give him the same game.
the Beard
The GosPool was sent off to the printer this morning.
roncook said:
Ok, I will now chip in with my first encounter with Bucktooth. Years back he came into Bensinger's, I didnt know him, and he asked to play $100 a game 1pkt. He also asked to be spotted 9 to 7. In those days, anybody I didnt know could get 8 to 7, at least, in Bensinger's. 9 to 7 to a stranger was a stretch, but I figured I'd shoot 2 barrels at him. Early in the first game, I moved a bunch of balls in front of my pocket and shipped him up table. Without hesitating, he jumped up and popped in a long shot, completely disregarding my loaded pocket. As usual, the table we were on had very small pockets, and the shot he made was low percentage. At that point I stopped the action, put my cue on the table and proceeded to chastise him.
I told him if he wanted to continue getting the premium spot of 9 to 7 he had better forget about making those kind of disrespectful shots, and the next time I load up and ship him up table he had better act like a guy needing two balls and look to play safe or I would discontinue that spot. This forced the 'Tooth to try and win by stalling only, which with my speed then, was impossible. He went for 4 or 5 games before he gave in to the futility of his situation. Once I got winner, if he would have opened up, I would have quit, and he eventually realized that. The next day I wouldnt give him the same game.
the Beard
The GosPool was sent off to the printer this morning.
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Jay ......
Interesting, BillyC gave him the 6 ball. Billy must have been playing real good back then for Billy to spot the Tooth the 6 ball and I would think both players were at their prime when they played.
I don't think I have ever play one game with someone and they quit. Kilroy
must have been tired or maybe he realized you were watching his game and still wanted to play him and he didn't want a tough game at the end of the night.
That was a good notch to put on your belt!
Interesting, BillyC gave him the 6 ball. Billy must have been playing real good back then for Billy to spot the Tooth the 6 ball and I would think both players were at their prime when they played.
I don't think I have ever play one game with someone and they quit. Kilroy
must have been tired or maybe he realized you were watching his game and still wanted to play him and he didn't want a tough game at the end of the night.
That was a good notch to put on your belt!
Freddy .....
So you played Bucktooth at Bensinger's, is that place in Chicago and is it still there? When did you play him back in the 70's? That was a good move on your part confronting him on the spot, for a lot of players get spots
and they are certainly not warranted.
So you played Bucktooth at Bensinger's, is that place in Chicago and is it still there? When did you play him back in the 70's? That was a good move on your part confronting him on the spot, for a lot of players get spots
and they are certainly not warranted.
I will venture a guess that just about any time a guy put eight and out on Kilroy he uncorked - as a matter of principle - sort of like the Tooth nailing that long shot on Freddy...might have been one of his "rules of the road"roncook said:
The 6 ball isn't much against a player like BillyC in his prime.
Of course Bensinger's was in Chicago
Bensinger's has been closed for about 15 years. It was either the '70s or '80s, I dont remember. From that time until now, the 'Tooth has acted as if he doesnt know who I am. Personally, I think that lesson in gamesmenship was permanently burned into his brain.
the Beard
roncook said:
Bensinger's has been closed for about 15 years. It was either the '70s or '80s, I dont remember. From that time until now, the 'Tooth has acted as if he doesnt know who I am. Personally, I think that lesson in gamesmenship was permanently burned into his brain.
the Beard
Jay ......
I just talked to my brother and he did say BillyC beat him out of thousands
with the 6 ball in the match you were talking about, but listen to this ......
Tooth said he played Billy also in Castro Valley in his pool hall with the
6 ball and said he beat him (10) sets in a row for $500 & won $5,000. then he went on to say Billy never one one game? Unbievable war story, I asked him several times over and over, no one Billy's spreed could lose every game, but he said you could ask anyone there and it was true, by the way Cole was there and broke a his brand new cuestick over the table
for I think Cole was beating on Billy. The only thing I forgot to ask was what was the race to?
The high school I went to, in 1965, Castlement High School, in Oakland, CA their football team beat every other high school team in their league, not loosing one game and better yet not (1) point was scored upon them all season not even a field goal. The record still stands today 41 years later and no team has even come close to that record.
I just talked to my brother and he did say BillyC beat him out of thousands
with the 6 ball in the match you were talking about, but listen to this ......
Tooth said he played Billy also in Castro Valley in his pool hall with the
6 ball and said he beat him (10) sets in a row for $500 & won $5,000. then he went on to say Billy never one one game? Unbievable war story, I asked him several times over and over, no one Billy's spreed could lose every game, but he said you could ask anyone there and it was true, by the way Cole was there and broke a his brand new cuestick over the table
for I think Cole was beating on Billy. The only thing I forgot to ask was what was the race to?
The high school I went to, in 1965, Castlement High School, in Oakland, CA their football team beat every other high school team in their league, not loosing one game and better yet not (1) point was scored upon them all season not even a field goal. The record still stands today 41 years later and no team has even come close to that record.