The N.U.T.S.

Gremlin said:
It's for the players who are interested but no bitching in this forum if you get screwed. :D
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Nobody is going to get screwed. Mike Janis is well-respected in the pool world and has been running the Viking tour for years. The Viking tour is the one regional tour with the most coverage nationwide. Nobody accomplishes that without at least a high level of integrity.

Enjoy the weekend and let us worry about making the NUTS work.
 
jjinfla said:
Hey VAP if that confuses you then you have no clue at all.

And if you can't debate the logic then of course you must attack the person.

Just the name N.U.T.S. lends itself to ridicule. I don't see TV accepting that name.

As for me being a poolplayer - hell no - I'm a donator at the local tournaments. But I do enjoy it. But last year I did win over $1500 in local tournaments. Not bad for an old guy who doesn't take the game all that seriously.

Why do you state that I am being critical of the women when all I am doing is being realistic? How many of them actually do get on TV? But they all want to don't they? How many of them would play if there was no TV?

This reminds me of an old class B Mickey Rooney movie where they are sitting around saying: you can sing, I can dance we have friends who can help and I know where there is an old barn we can fix up and they pull off a million dollar extravaganza and don't have two quarters between them.

Okay VAP, do you really think a TD is going to go out and collect money to turn it over to N.U.T.S. That would be nuts. Hell, even the policy runners in Chi Town got a cut of the action. And it turned out to be quite a big cut on those twenty five cent bets.

But who knows, maybe Mike can pull it off. It all depends on what the TD's think, not what you or I think.

Jake
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ok, i'm going to make this as simple as i can for you, since you obviously don't know when you're being insulted..........

it didn't surprise me, because you're a dumbass.

i can debate the subject all day (if you want to compare IQ, you're gonna need weight) but.....again, you're a dumbass, so i will insult the dumbass.

the promoters aren't goint to "ask" for anything. they just incorporate it into their tournament fees. there are honest people out there.

and since you aren't a "pool player" please don't make any more comments about poolplayers (male or female) as you obviously have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to the WPBA players or anyone else..............don't worry, none of us here expect you to understand.


again just to make it clear YOU ARE A DUMBASS...............i'm attacking the person, because the person asked for it...........dumbass.

VAP
 
The STALKER

Gremlin, do you ever compete?
If that is a yes, then all your input is going to be considered valid.
If you don't compete, then why don't you leave the discussion to the people that WANT to compete, or who are interested in bettering the game for the players.

If you managed to PAY ATTENTION, then you'd understand that no one on this board is gonna care that you don't come out and by a ticket. So you can stop with the whole disgruntled fan routine.

Just cause you have a couple pictures with yourself and some pros, does not mean that they are your friends, and that they like you. They do it cause you scare them, and they don't want to make you feel bad. BECAUSE YOU COME OUT AND SPEND MONEY ON THEIR STUFF!!!

Otherwise, they would have told you to back off a long time ago.

I mean for real...going to a tournament, with a tshirt with the players face on it, following them around the whole tournament? Get a grip!

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Here what goes again??? :D

I didn't say anything :D

Oh, just go and pick on the dumbass again :p :D
 
Superstroke said:
I mean for real...going to a tournament, with a tshirt with the players face on it, following them around the whole tournament? Get a grip!
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HEY! I resemble that remark!!!! :mad: :mad:

ROTFLMAO! (Yep this pic will NEVER get old!!! :D )
 

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vapoolplayer said:
ok, i'm going to make this as simple as i can for you, since you obviously don't know when you're being insulted..........

it didn't surprise me, because you're a dumbass.


i can debate the subject all day (if you want to compare IQ, you're gonna need weight) but.....again, you're a dumbass, so i will insult the dumbass.

the promoters aren't goint to "ask" for anything. they just incorporate it into their tournament fees. there are honest people out there.

and since you aren't a "pool player" please don't make any more comments about poolplayers (male or female) as you obviously have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to the WPBA players or anyone else..............don't worry, none of us here expect you to understand.


again just to make it clear YOU ARE A DUMBASS...............i'm attacking the person, because the person asked for it...........dumbass.

VAP
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TAP TAP TAP TAP! :D
 
Next question:

Is it legal? Since there is no membership application to NUTS that means there is no membership. No membership = no organization = no say in how operations are run.

So then how can people be forced to donate $2 to a non-existing organization? If I, or Gremlin, or anyone, want to play in a tournament, but care less about NUTS, then why should we be forced to donate money to them? Them being Mike Janis.

I would prefer to place the $2 on double zero.

Sure sounds like a scam to me.

And just what did TK and John DiToro say when this plan was passed by them?

Surely, Mike Janis approached all the TD's before he decided to go public so he knows what their opinion is.

I know where there is some prime swamp land near DeLand Florida that I can sell you.

Jake
 
jjinfla said:
Landshark you got guts posting that picture.
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Jake, if you would pull your head outta your butt you would know that picture has been posted on this message board several times. Glad to see that you pay attention to what is going on. No wonder you are so knowledgeable. :rolleyes:

jjinfla said:
Which one is the alpha dog?
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And please don't even try to play like you are in this picture. You are the only dog...however, an alpha you are not. :eek:
 
Ok, so I lied...

I obviously can't keep my trap shut as promised.... :rolleyes:

We already know that tours are very interested in this and have already signed up. They're currently marketing this to sponsors as we speak. This forum is "the place" to go when anyone wants to know what people in the pool world think. If you guys don't think sponsors aren't reading this to get a feel for it, you're mistaken.

How about we take the thread back and talk about matters at hand? Let the people that aren't mature enough to voice their concerns in an adult manner take their derrogatory comments to another thread. I have no problem with people of a different opinion speaking their minds so long as they do it in a way that adults can debate the good & the bad of both sides and ultimately agree to disagree if need be. Lets leave the kids behind and ignore their bad behaviour shall we?

As I said last night, I was given a tidbit or two that I promised to keep mum on. However, I do want to say that someone here asked a question that pertains to what I promised to keep mum on & it will be answered by MJ next week....they're going to like the answer he has.


Peace
 
jjinfla said:
Next question:

Is it legal? Since there is no membership application to NUTS that means there is no membership. No membership = no organization = no say in how operations are run.

So then how can people be forced to donate $2 to a non-existing organization? If I, or Gremlin, or anyone, want to play in a tournament, but care less about NUTS, then why should we be forced to donate money to them? Them being Mike Janis.

I would prefer to place the $2 on double zero.

Sure sounds like a scam to me.

And just what did TK and John DiToro say when this plan was passed by them?

Surely, Mike Janis approached all the TD's before he decided to go public so he knows what their opinion is.

I know where there is some prime swamp land near DeLand Florida that I can sell you.

Jake
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This is Kay from Fury Tour. Just to let you know....Mike has contacted as many of the tours as he can and we have given our opinion,,,,,at least I have and its good. There is work with every worthwhile project. There is a lot of discussion between us as to how to handle issues. That is the reason for this forum to give everyone a chance to ask questions and situations be worked on.
This is just and FYI for you
Kay Higgins
KBP Fury Amateur 9-Ball Tour
 
PrinsNick said:
LS,

Since this is still very new and since the other tours who are currently part of NUTS do not have separate women's tours like ours, we are still trying to decide what to do. We will discuss this at Break Time in Salisbury and get some input from the ladies. As it stands right now, the Planet Pool ladies will not have to pay the $2 next weekend, but may be included somehow after that.

Nick
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Nick
I was wondering that too for the Fury Ladies Amateur events. The ladies are really going to be interested in this one too.
Kay
KBP Fury Amateur 9-Ball Tour
 
landshark77 said:
pssst!

[WHISPERS] Becareful what you say to Gremlin...you could be the #10 on his "ignorant" list. :eek: [/WHISPERS]

:D :D :D :D :D
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We could only be so lucky. :D
 
Someone said this in there remarks::
1) Most of the tours are not going to want to give up a piece of their share for the betterment of the sport/game.


Hey I own the Kings Bay Promotions, Inc which is the Fury Amateur 9-Ball Tour and yes if it improves the sport and I can see that it will work. I"ll get a big $2 per player from them to do this. The sport has had a bad name from the very begining,,,drinking, gambling in smoke filled rooms. Maybe this would help give a better light on the sport and us. You don't know how many people look oddly at me when I say I promote billiard events. Its not easy out here to help the players have the acces to do what they love and want to do. At this point in my tournaments I wish I had the time to play again but I bust butt to keep expanding and growing this sport. Let's work on the issues that we need to to make this thing work for the growth of the industry and to help these players grow. If we don't get to growing and doing something more the sport may get lost. Face it we are not a popular sport with everyone. Look at golf, football, basketball, baseball, etc and how many people watch it. Bowling is even televised more now so why can't we??? I want this to grow so that my amateurs have a place to excel to. I have players now that tell me that the biggest compliment that I can give them is that they can't play with the amateurs any more. But where do they go when I get to tell them that? No place really because there is no system out there to help them grow.....Now maybe there will be
Kay
 
KBP said:
This is Kay from Fury Tour. Just to let you know....Mike has contacted as many of the tours as he can and we have given our opinion,,,,,at least I have and its good. There is work with every worthwhile project. There is a lot of discussion between us as to how to handle issues. That is the reason for this forum to give everyone a chance to ask questions and situations be worked on.
This is just and FYI for you
Kay Higgins
KBP Fury Amateur 9-Ball Tour
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Hi Kay,

I know a lot of the people who play in your tour down here and I am sure that the top players, Aquino, Wheeler (plays pro), Ross (plays pro), Otto (matches up with pros), Elvis, etc will in all likelyhood be for it. But I don't know about a lot of the others who mainly play for competition with no real chance of winning and only play in a few tournaments. I did ask a couple players about nuts and they gave me a blank stare. Never heard of it. Anyway, you run a fine, popular tour that is growing rapidly. Keep up the good work.

And of course YOU will have to justify the $2 to the State. Might not be a problem, but then Florida laws could be quirky.

Jake
 
jjinfla said:
Hi Kay,

I know a lot of the people who play in your tour down here and I am sure that the top players, Aquino, Wheeler (plays pro), Ross (plays pro), Otto (matches up with pros), Elvis, etc will in all likelyhood be for it. But I don't know about a lot of the others who mainly play for competition with no real chance of winning and only play in a few tournaments. I did ask a couple players about nuts and they gave me a blank stare. Never heard of it. Anyway, you run a fine, popular tour that is growing rapidly. Keep up the good work.

And of course YOU will have to justify the $2 to the State. Might not be a problem, but then Florida laws could be quirky.

Jake
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You reallywant to know what upsets me is that some people feel that if players play in the open events and the events that Aquino, Wheeler and Ross play in are open not pro events you automatically say its a pro event and they are too good for the amateur. Hey sometimes I get lucky and make some balls or get a good draw. The word is just getting out about the nuts so most of the players don't know about it and it hasn't been discussed in my tour except with my TD's. I am glad I have a popular tour and I do seem to keep growing and that's what I want. And you'd be surprised at how many of my players want to advance. By the way the way you put YOU will have to justify the $2 to the State sounded like a little bit of a threat. I don't have a problem with Florida laws and have talked to the state on many occassions. Also one note:::: I am Inc out of Ga.
Kay
 
Gremlin said:
Why the hell don't you all become touring pros. I am first thing in the morning.
"Gremlin"
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Surely you must be mistaken Gremlin. There must be some qualifications to be classified as a pro other than money. Maybe that $100 just entitles you to play in pro tournaments but you would have to finish in the top half to really be a pro. I don't know.

Have you read Lipson's newsletter on the UPA website? Seems they have two contracts with ESPN. The World Summit in New York and the US Pro Tour in LA. Pros will be nuts not to sign up for those events. Who knows, the winner might be the next pool millionaire.

Oh, and thanks for that Superstroke image.

Jake
 
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