The Nurse Shot......... You Are Welcome
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hemicudas said:
Makes sense, but in the video, it looks like the OB has right on it when it hits the left side of the pocket and kind of spins in??
I'll have to go look at the vid again!
Russ.....
Neil said:
Weird, yes, but I understand what you are saying and can picture it!!
Thanks Neil :thumbup:
:scratchhead: So when you cut a ball to the left inside english is right?
desmocourtney said:
The best thing to do is forget the terms, Inside and outside, in this instance, desomcourtney. Look at the object ball you want to pocket. You can see what english needs to be on it for it to hit the rail and run toward the pocket. If it needs Left english, you must put Right english on the cue ball and vice-versa.
Thanks for the post. I don't have a copy with me but I'm pretty sure a very similar shot is is diagrammed in one of the Byrnes books. He specifically states it is a shot that works on a table with the heavier/larger cue ball used on bar tables. IIRC his version is a bit more extreme, with the object ball actually frozen to the rail and the cue ball perpendicular to it. (In your shot it looks like you have a slight angle to the object ball and presumably the object ball is not frozen, is this correct?)
AuntyDan said:
That's correct, Dan. The object ball is off the rail. The cue ball I used is from the Centennial set that all the other balls are a part of. Back in the 70s I did carry a white hole-less bowling ball in my glove compartment from a United bar table. Wonder where that thing went? Keith might have stolen mine. Damn, he played that big cue ball great.
Like I and others have said, the shot is much easier to execute with the heavy cue ball.
I would find it hard to believe a frozen object ball could be nursed 6-8 inches in either direction, along the rail, without seeing it no matter how heavy the cue ball. Could be, I just haven't seen it done.
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I was trying this shot last night and wasn't able to make it go. I did have the OB frozen on the rail. Do you need to make adjustments for cloth speed? I was playing on slow championship cloth.
supergreenman said:
SGM, The OB can NOT be frozen to the rail and make the shot. It has to be off the rail just a bit. Try the shot with the OB about 1/2 to 1" off the rail. If the OB is frozen you can not impart english to it. Sorry, I should have stated this earlier and you can't see how far off the rail the one ball is in the video. My bad..........
hemicudas said:
Hey no worries, I'll give it another go tonight.
SGM
Awesome, d00d!hemicudas said:
So, when I first saw the shot, I suspected you were full of it, but since I've learned several impossible shots in the past few years, I sat on my hands and posted nothing until I could get to a table and see for myself. My (bogus) belief came from the fact that I had never seen anyone play this shot, and I have seen a lot of one pocket.
I tried various angles and spins, and the most impressive set up I found is like this: Put the object ball a diamond from "your" corner pocket and a ball off the side cushion. Put the cue ball so that the two-rail bank is nearly straight except for the kiss. Play the cue ball with "helping" english and follow. In this case "helping" is on the side of the cue ball away from the pocket. Pick a fullness and shoot the shot. Note what the object ball does. If you hit the object ball too much on the pocket side, the ball won't get to the pocket, but it should be knocked back to the cushion. If the object ball is not knocked back to the cushion for too full a hit, you have to add follow or change your speed -- probably slower.
If the object ball gets to the end rail but never gets back close to the cushion, you are kissing too thin. Aim more on the pocket side of the object ball.
Once you get pretty good action, you can try different approach angles, but the aiming will be different. The object ball needs to be off the cushion to allow the cue ball to get some forward speed from its follow. Of course the farther off it is, the harder it is to drive it back to the pocket, so there is some best distance. One ball out seems to work well, but I didn't much test other distances.
I'll see if I can make a video. I was playing on a GC3 with 4.25-inch pockets and medium-old Simonis 860. The balls are fairly new Pro Cup TV balls with the measles cue ball.
A great shot to know -- thanks. I hope it comes up soon.
Black-Balled said:Why you telling this stuff for free?
You make a great point, BB. The point I wanted to make was that many straight shooting champions don't have a clue about the game of pool, other than working their elbows. It seems too much knowledge might effect how straight they shoot.
You're probably right. I should have sold it.
I for one am very happy you decided to share your knowledge, in return I pledge not to turn around and sell it.hemicudas said:
I was extremely happy when I made it work the other day.
Nurse Shot
I got an message the video was no longer available.
The Youtube gods must have found out about this secret being shared and pulled the video.
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I got an message the video was no longer available.
The Youtube gods must have found out about this secret being shared and pulled the video.
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Here's the video. The cue ball is slightly above the object ball, but we later managed to make the shot with the cue ball dead even with the object ball. And it turns out that the pockets are actually 4.0-inch. Peer Landa helped with the production.Bob Jewett said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2enopvFnTno
THis shot is alot easier with the big ball for sure, I actually forgot about it, I forgot alot about pool not going to a pool room for so many years. It was showed to me as a "Nurse" shot.
One other consideration is it is ALOT harder with a red circle CB than a blue circle or measel CB.
One other consideration is it is ALOT harder with a red circle CB than a blue circle or measel CB.