The old games we use to play??

There's a game of six pocket for 10$ buy in 10 cents a point several nights a week where I play. I don't know the exact rules, but in no time there are a lot of balls crammed around a couple of pockets on the table and everyone's arguing.

I can't even seem to find rules for it online.
 
We used to play a full rack rotation game called 2-5-10. The 2, 5, 10, 15, and high ball number total each counted as a way. Getting all 5 paid double. Played this game for twenty years. When I came back to the game after a twenty year layoff, nobody was playing it. Good money game for high or low stakes.
 
Point pool

claymont said:
We used to play a full rack rotation game called 2-5-10. The 2, 5, 10, 15, and high ball number total each counted as a way. Getting all 5 paid double. Played this game for twenty years. When I came back to the game after a twenty year layoff, nobody was playing it. Good money game for high or low stakes.
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I've heard of a game similar to this. It's called point pool. Balls are shot in rotation. But in this version the 1, 5, 10 and 15 are the point balls.

The 1 ball must be made in a side pocket. If you make it anywhere else, the 1 ball is spotted and the player loses his turn. The side pocket requirement adds some luck to the game and makes it difficult for the breaker to continue a run.

If you get more point balls than anybody else in the game, you get an extra point and therefore get paid more. Great multiplayer game.

I suggested to some guys at the room that I play in that we play this game, and they just looked at me like I was crazy. Seems to be it would be fun. Yeah there would be some luck in it especially with the need to make the 1 ball in the side pocket, but there seems to be some skill in it to.
 
Crazy Keely explained

dr9ball said:
I believe 31 is also called "Bottle Pool" the basic rules and scoring are listed here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bottle_pool

Kelly Pool or (Pill Pool) can be found here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly_pool

Rules for Keno and other games are also listed on this site: http://www.completegamester.com/pages/Billiard/keeno-billiard.html


Hope that helps.
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Thanks for this post. It helps explain 31 or bottle pool and keno very well.

However, the Crazy Keely we played was NOT a rotation game.

In our game the game started with each player drawing 2 pills out of the bottle. 1 pill had to be shown and was called the break pill. This pill determined the order of rotation in that game. The other pill was kept secret and that was the ball that you OR someone else had to make.

For example, say you draw the 14 and the 3. You decide to show the 14 and hide the 3. Another player draws the 15 and decides to break. That player breaks and comes up dry. The next shot is yours. Say you can't see the 3, but you can shoot a 6-3 combo. So you try that shot and the 6 ball hits the 3 ball, but you miss the ball in the pocket you are aiming at but goes 2 rails in another pocket. Guess what? You win! Pure luck but you win anyway!:smile:

Needless to say it was a CRAZY game and therefore named just right.
 
claymont said:
We used to play a full rack rotation game called 2-5-10. The 2, 5, 10, 15, and high ball number total each counted as a way. Getting all 5 paid double. Played this game for twenty years. When I came back to the game after a twenty year layoff, nobody was playing it. Good money game for high or low stakes.
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We played a similar game called "Points" around here back in the sixties and seventies. All odd # balls were a point, ball count was a point and the additive value of balls equaling 61 or more was a point. There was a total of 10 points. 4 player played the game and the players who pocketed the 2 and 9 were partners. If the same player pocketed both the 2 and 9 then the next odd ball pocketed was the partner ball etc etc. If one player pocket all the ball on the table all players had to pay him the predetermined $value of each ball pocketed. If partners were established then at the end of the game when all balls had been pocketed the amount of $ to be won or lost was determined by simple math. U made 7 points We made 3 points..7-3=4 * wagered amount per point. usually 1 dollar. This is a full rack rotation game.
 
cheeseroller said:
Who out there remembers some of the old pill pool games such as
1. crazy keely (also called one shot)
2. double check
3. 31

and the board games like keno and amos and andy.

In the pool room where I first learned to play we played games like this all the time. They were all multi player gambling games and a lot of luck was involved. But we had a blast playing games like this.

I might be showing my age but it was only 20-25 years ago when we used to play them.

Why don't we play games like this anymore? Why have such games virtually disappeared?
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I miss dot-pool.
When you won, you got to take the tip of your stick and make a blue dot on your opponent's face.

Yes, we actually played this!
 
Pushout said:
There was also a point for "game" which was like Rotation, 61 points or whoever had the most. Partners, if I remember right, the 1 and 5 and the 8 and I can't remember:embarrassed2:
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we used to play a game called ODD BALL

you use a full rack of fifteen balls. rack 1,2,3 corners, 15 center, 5,7,9,11,13 behind the 15.

mostly played as partners,can be played heads up and ring style.

played in rotation,combos and caroms allowed with a good hit.

their is 10 ways to get paid.
most amount of balls is 1 way.
total of 61 points is 1 way.
1,3,5,7,9,11,13,15 is 8 ways or 1 way each.

we used to play on a regular basis 2 dollar partners.have played 20d partners but not higher.witnessed a 400 dollar partner game (brutal)

bill
 
There is also another version of 31 that still being played today. It's a rotation game. Players draw a pee and try to make balls along with the number on that pee that will get them to 31 or as close to it without going over. If you go over you are out of the game.

If it's your turn and the next lowest ball on the table will make you go over 31 (bust), then you declare that you cannot take any more, so now you still shoot but what you make goes to the player that follows you. If he can't take any more balls then you two compare points. If he is closer to 31 then he continues to shoot for who ever follows him and you are out of the game.
If you both tie, then you continue because you got yours first.


If anyone gets exactly 31 the game is over and that player wins the game. Establishing a total of 16 points with your pee and balls is an advantage because there are a number of ways to get 15 points with the balls. 1+2+3+4+5=15 4+5+6=15 7+8=15 A good deal of luck, skill, and strategy is involved.
 
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walrus_3d said:
What do you mean by Cowboy? I know three games with that name.
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I only know of I version, the game with 1,3,5 ball on the head, middle, and foot spots. Score to 90 and carom to 100 to scratch to win te game on 101. We started playing this game in lieu of cut throat when my buddies and I started to get serious about our game.
 
Philly

I grew up in Mansfield ,Ohio and in the early 70's we played Philly 9 ball. Break em like normal and if you make a ball all the lower ones come off. This made for some fast games..no BIH back then,one pushout.
 
"Golf pool"?
Back in the '60s, we played "golf" on the felt. Several versions were played, but my favorite was as follows. Each player has an object ball (can be played with more than two players). Opening shot is a spot shot from the kitchen, going for the right corner and playing position for the side. If you make the shot you spot your OB and shoot again, continuing until you miss, - a perfect game being a run of six shots in six pockets. Second player also shoots from the kitchen with the same opening shot. Once both (or all) players have finished their opening inning, the CB remains where it comes to a stop after each shot. If you don't make a legal shot (striking your ball first and then sending any ball to a rail, or pocketing your ball in the correct pocket), the next player has the option of taking the shot or having the shooter shoot again. Also, on every foul, the shooters desired pocket is moved back. It's a great strategic game for two players and even more challenging for a ring game. Sometimes we'd play simply for a fixed $ per game, sometimes a fixed $ per pocket.
Donny L
BCA/ACS Instructor
Gainesville, Fl
 
Reviving this thread because tonight a guy asked me if I'd ever played "near ball". I'd completely forgotten about that game in the 25 years since I'd last played it....

Anyone else remember/play it?
 
cheeseroller said:
Who out there remembers some of the old pill pool games such as
1. crazy keely (also called one shot)
2. double check
3. 31

and the board games like keno and amos and andy.

In the pool room where I first learned to play we played games like this all the time. They were all multi player gambling games and a lot of luck was involved. But we had a blast playing games like this.

I might be showing my age but it was only 20-25 years ago when we used to play them.

Why don't we play games like this anymore? Why have such games virtually disappeared?
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There was 9 ball kelly where you shook pills and when you made someone else's ball they paid you and when you made yours the game was over and they paid you again. Double check was played with 15 balls and each player got two pills. The only open balls you could shoot first was the 1,15 and 8. When you made both your balls you win, with the 4 and 12 being automatic winners. 31, was each player got one pill and the shooter had to shoot in rotation with 15 balls and when the shooter got 31 counting his pill number or the closest to 31 he wins. These were all good gamble games. I remember playing 5.00 double check with 5 to 7 players almost everyday in the 70's. They gambled much more back then is why you don't see these games anymore, and they had rackers, not rental tables.
 
I thought I didn't know any of these until "31" clicked. Some still play that where I usually go. Some players old, but some aren't old. I was just spectating and some of them explained a little bit of the rules to me. They play 31 on a carom table but are foreigners so I can't really understand what they're saying unless they deliberately explain to me. They did say it was a popular gambling game. Although it is different from the "bottle pool" like the picture on the wikipedia link. They used these small wood things that sort of looked almost like chess pieces. They said the goal was to get 31 points.
 
I grew up playing a lot of "pill pool" like Kelly and "1&9" Partners.

cheeseroller said:
Who out there remembers some of the old pill pool games such as
1. crazy keely (also called one shot)
2. double check
3. 31

and the board games like keno and amos and andy.

In the pool room where I first learned to play we played games like this all the time. They were all multi player gambling games and a lot of luck was involved. But we had a blast playing games like this.

I might be showing my age but it was only 20-25 years ago when we used to play them.

Why don't we play games like this anymore? Why have such games virtually disappeared?
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I grew up playing a lot of "pill pool" like Kelly and "1&9" Partners. These were fun as a kid, but I"m not sure if would be the same now :wink:
 
3andstop said:
Does anyone remember One Ball? It was a single rack 14.1 type game where each player names a side pocket for themselves and the game is played exactly like straight pool except it's over as soon as you make the 1 ball in your designated side pocket. The 1 is racked in the middle and all other rules including the opening break follow straight pool. A foul was ball in hand behind the headstring.
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One Ball. Played it in the mid 60's. Still enjoy it and encourage it in my community clubhouse. We played 1 ball in the corner for a buck a game. Learned and played 1B at Cue & Cushion....Roosevelt Mall on Cottman St in Phila.
Enjoyed playing partners Odd Ball. Rotation with 8 odd balls(1,3,5, etc) and points being 9 ways for quarter a way.
And 5 ball. (a short game of 9 ball)
 
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Anyone mentioned Runout? Some old timers taught me the fun game - a bit of a reverse 14-1 that could be played with as many people as were there to play. You played until you missed (or you could handicap people for 2 or more mistakes) then counted the remaining balls and added the numbers until you got to the loosing number whatever it was agreed upon to be. Great tension builder and good for concentration and nerves. It was a fun way to practice alone too.
 
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