The Philppine Billiards Situation - Part 1

ASalvador

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STATEMENT ON THE PHILPPINE BILLIARDS SITUATION


by June Diokno
Spokesman and Program Director
Billiards & Snooker Congress of the Philippines
21 July 2004


The Billiards and Snooker Congress of the Philippines (BSCP) wishes to place on record this statement and report on the billiards situation in the Philippines for the guidance and information of national clubs and international billiards organizations, the media and the public.

The BSCP was established in 1987 following the EDSA revolution of 1986. It is the member for the Philippines of the Asian Pocket Billiards Union (APBU), and as such is part of the international pool governance system under the World Pocket-Billiards Association (WPA). It is the member for billiards of the Philippine Olympic Committee (POC), through which it is part of the Olympic system. It is also the Philippine member of the Asian Confederation for Billiard Sports (ACBS), the Asian representative in the World Confederation of Billiard Sports (WCBS).

There are 4.5 million Filipinos who play billiards regularly according to an official survey conducted by the Social Weather Stations in 2006. As the national sports association, the BSCP comprises and represents the many stakeholders of billiard sports in the Philippines, including players, promoters, billiards firms, parlors, clubs, associations, player managers, referees, billiards aficionados, media representatives, and billiard fans all over the country.

The current billiards situation in the country has arisen mainly because of the brazen attempt of a breakaway group ? the Billiards Managers and Players Association of the Philippines (BMPAP) -- to take over billiards in the Philippines on the absurd notion that they could do so with a handful of known players in hand. That challenge has been rebuffed in the POC, in the APBU, and in the Philippine billiards community as a whole. Nevertheless, the group has continued to try and disrupt the work of the BSCP through misinformation, wild and unfounded allegations, and events designed to compete with the BSCP calendar. And they have foisted their campaign of misinformation not just inside the country, but on the international front.

To distinguish between fact and falsehood in the present billiards situation, we are therefore issuing this official statement of facts and issues for the information and guidance of members and colleagues in the national and international billiards communities.

1. The Billiards Managers Association of the Philippines (BMAP) has claimed that the BSCP and its leadership have misappropriated public funds for its activities, starting with the allegation in January this year that the BSCP had received and misused P10 million given by the Philippine Sports Commission (PSC). This is an outright falsehood. After a thorough accounting of funds allocated for billiards by the PSC, its chairman William Ramirez issued an official statement that the government body never gave the BSCP the alleged P10 million fund or any other funds. All monies given for billiards (amounting to P1.2 million) went directly to players and referees. Not a single cent went to our association. (See attached Inquirer report.) Despite this clear rejection of its allegation, the BMPAP continues to retail this charge to the unsuspecting.

2. The BMPAP has claimed that government sponsorship and support of the 2006 and 2007 World Pool Championships in Manila represents a form of malversation of public funds by Raya Sports as promoter and BSCP as partner organization. This is false and ignorant. The support obtained for the WPCs was fully above board and was integral to the program from the beginning. No less than President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo expressed her support for the events. Government corporations are some of the biggest advertisers and supporters of sports events. The Department of Tourism has a $50 million budget specifically for the promotion of Philippine tourism abroad. For every peso given in support of the WPCs, Government got way, way more in terms of media values and national goodwill. Indeed, the Philippines became the virtual pool capital of the world by virtue of these efforts.

3. The BMPAP has claimed that in the selection of Filipino players for international competition, the BSCP does not play fair with all players and does not conduct a proper selection process. This is false and a total misrepresentation of the facts. In choosing players for international competition, the BSCP follows a strict process of evaluation and qualification. Besides regularly conducting tournaments, it institutes special qualifying tournaments to select the most suitable representatives for foreign competition.

What happened this year was that a number of players ? under contract with the BMPAP managers ? severed their relationship with the BSCP with its manifesto of February 2008, and thereby took themselves out of the selection process. The BMPAP boasted that henceforth it would conduct its own selection of players for the WPA events and the Guinness 9Ball Tour. It wrote the WPA, APBU and ESPN to inform them that it was now in charge of billiards in the Philippines. And it even got a government agency, the Games and Amusement Board (GAB), to write international bodies, claiming powers over Philippine sports that it does not have. When these overtures for international recognition were rebuffed, they turned around and started claiming that their players were not being fairly included and treated in the BSCP selection process.

The BSCP?s position on this issue is clear. To be included in the selection process, the BMPAP players have to be reintegrated into the BSCP system. As a minimum requirement for this, players who publicly denounced the BSCP leadership for alleged corruption and abuses should individually either retract their charges or file their complaints before the Philippine Olympic Committee (POC). They cannot have it both ways: enjoying the patronage of the BSCP while denouncing it with all kinds of allegations.

The BSCP has no quarrel with the players of the BMPAP. We believe the players are just being used by their managers for their dark purposes. This is why we have refrained so far from applying full sanctions against them. But until they profess full allegiance to the BSCP and respect for its rules and policies, they will not be included in the selection process for international competition.

4. We want to state for the record that the BSCP and its partner organizations have been instrumental in helping many Filipino players achieve international recognition by providing them with the opportunity to play in major tournaments at home and abroad. Among them are players who are in the fold of the BMPAP. Until the BSCP started its proactive program in 2005, the only Filipino players known to the world were Efren Reyes, Francisco Bustamante and Alex Pagulayan. No other Filipino players were known because of Puyat?s policy of exclusion and control over international invitations.

Once the BSCP launched its program of promoting international tournaments in the Philippines and helping Filipino players to compete abroad, there was literally an explosion of Filipino players getting recognition internationally. Dennis Orcullo got his first international triumph at the World Pool League in Poland via an invitation gotten for him by BSCP. Antonio Gabica won his Asian Gold Medal for pool because BSCP fielded him in competition. Ronato Alcano got his big break via the 2006 world Pool Championship in Manila. Marlon Manalo got his start through the BSCP system of nurturing talent. Lee Van Corteza got recognition through the many opportunities given him by the BSCP. The list goes on.
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PHILPPINE BILLIARDS SITUATION - Part 2

-part 2 -

In its handling of players, the BSCP does not take any commission from the winnings and bonuses of players who play under its wing. This is in stark contrast to the practice of BMPAP managers who take 40% of every peso their players under contract earn. Likewise, the BSCP and its partner organizations have no outstanding financial obligations to players. In BSCP organized and sanctioned tournaments, winning players are paid within days after the conclusion of the event.

The BSCP has not confined its attention and support to just the top players. As an integral part of its program, the BSCP holds regularly women and juniors championships, divisional championships for various levels of players, and training programs for players. It does not forget its mission of service to all stakeholders of the sport, and its responsibility to build a secure future for Philippine pool.

4. The BMPAP was founded on the idea of establishing a professional pool team league in the Philippines. They held a big press conference to announce it, and projected the month of July for the start of competition. The pro team league inveigled many players to sign up because of the promise that all will earn regular salaries from their respective teams instead of having to win in competition. Aging players liked the idea of retiring into such a welfare system. The plan has not gotten off the ground, however. It is now July 2008 and there has been no mention anymore of the team league. No private firm has signed up. Meanwhile, players who enlisted are now asking about their promised bonanza. They feel they have been fooled.

5. Boycotting tournaments and competition managed by the BSCP has been a long-standing tactic of Aristeo Puyat, one of the three BMPAP founding managers. He has employed it in the Asian Games and Southeast Asian Games by refusing to allow Efren Reyes and Francisco Bustamante to play for the country. He has used it against rival promoters for years, believing that if his players don?t play the tournaments will have no sponsorship support. He has not allowed Reyes and Bustamante to play in the BSCP national championship. This year, he and the BMPAP have employed the boycott against the Philippine Pool Tour of the BSCP, despite the attractive prizes and international competition. And now, they have talked about a boycott of the 2008 WPA World Ten Ball Championship.

While the boycott tactic may have been fruitful for Puyat in the past, it has been unsuccessful in the face of the proactive agenda of the BSCP and several new promoters during the past three years. Bigger and more exciting events are now taking place all over the Philippines regularly. Boycotting players are not missed by the fans. BSCP?s position on a boycott is that no player is bigger than the sport. A boycott is the player?s loss, not the promoter?s.

6. With the collapse of its pro team league scheme, the BMPAP has shifted its focus to holding its tournaments to rival BSCP-organized and sanctioned tournaments. It has hitched its wagon to the presidential ambitions of Sen. Manny Villar, who is eager to use pool as a means to project his candidacy and enhance his popularity. Together they have come up with the Villar Cup ? a series of tournaments to be staged in various parts of the country.

We in the BSCP wish the Villar Cup well, but it is clear that the BMPAP does not wish us the same. The BMPAP has mounted its tournaments on exactly the same dates as the tournaments being staged by the BSCP and its partner organizations. When the BSCP Philippine Pool Tour was launched in Mandaluyong City on May 6 to 11 (Mandaluyong Mayor?s Cup), the Villar Cup was unveiled on exactly the same dates in Alabang, Muntinlupa. When the second PPT leg was staged in Puerto Princesa City (Puerto Princesa Mayor?s Cup) on June 20-22, the Villar Cup materialized in Cebu City. Its object apparently is to show that they are an association at par with BSCP and to prevent their players from participating in the PPT.

All this BSCP can live with. Our association is comfortable with the support it is getting for its programs and events from the private and public sectors, and from billiards clubs and fans all over the country. Every PPT event enjoys the support of city governments of hosts. It meets high international standards for both equipment and technical management have commercial sponsors. Its field of players include some of the best players in the world. And they are fully televised nationally and internationally by the country?s biggest network.

7. As a matter of policy, the BSCP does not sanction tournaments that are organized and run by billiards managers. We believe there is an inherent conflict of interest between the billiards manager?s interest in his players winning and his obligation as promoter to be fair to all participants. The instances when billiards managers-promoters have not played fair with players are legion. The BSCP has received numerous complaints from players about practices of favoritism in seedings and bracketing which have rendered difficult for independent players to win in manager-organized tournaments.

This conflict of interest question is present in the Villar Cup being organized by BMPAP because it is run by the three BMPAP managers (Aristeo Puyat, Perry Mariano and Jonathan Sy). The latter?s players are being granted undue advantages through outright entry into the last 16 or last 32 round of tournaments, while independent players have to slogged through a process of elimination. It is no wonder that only the manager?s players win these events, and many independent players shy away from joining them.

Finally, with respect to the appeal of WPA president Ian Anderson for the BSCP and BMPAP to put aside their differences in order to ensure the staging and success of the World Ten Ball Championship in September and the World 9-Ball Championship in November, the BSCP board and officers wishes to convey to Mr. Anderson and the WPA their readiness to cooperate. We are ready and willing to discuss with the other side ways and means to forge a consensus and set aside differences. #
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Posted by myself just to get it all at the top of one thread for reader's ease. btw. Wasn't this posted by Jerry a couple of days ago?
 
unless the BMPAP - which composed of at least 90% of pro pool players in the phil..,,,gives up their just cause to fight these vultures (yen and cohorts)..then i do not see bscp(yen and cohorts) succeeding in their goal of dictating and corrupting phil. pool....

that said... if ever bscp(yen and cohorts) "change their ways" just so we all can move on...it's still going to be the same people just dancing on a different music...

a viper will always be one sooner or later...
 
The only reason why BMPAP and BSCP is percieved to have a conflict is because of RAYA's use of BSCP powers and affiliates.

BSCP, for all the years of its existence, never needed for players to show in deed and in writing their allegiance to BSCP. RAYA, on the other hand, needs the documentation of support to show the corporate sponsors that their events will have participation.

RAYA already did try and pay players to be a part of their show yet couldn't create the kind of excitement and following that our top Filipino Players can.

BSCP need not issue such statement, as the above, nor is there any need to explain themselves or the current situation here. Their responsibility is more of just internal national affairs. The entity that needs to keep a good reputation with the international pool community is RAYA. That is why they need to explain. RAYA and not BSCP is the one that needs the good reputation in the international pool community. If it, RAYA, doesn't then foreign players may just not grace RAYA's events with their presence.

BSCP being a National Sport Association couldn't care less if Americans, Europeans or any other nationality thinks highly of BSCP. BSCP is just for Philippine internal Pool affairs being an NSA. They only get mentioned internationally if the Philippines hosts the Asian or SEA Games or if BSCP recommends national representatives to the Philippine Olympic Com. for the ASIAN Games or SEA GAmes.

So really, the above BSCP press release is not one that is expected of a National Sports Association. Conflict between promoters in none of BSCP business. BSCP only got involved because RAYA takes advantage of BSCP powers and affiliates and does it for RAYA's and not BSCP's benefit.

Tell me now that there is no conflict of interest with YEN Makabenta being the CHAIRMAN of BSCP and PRESIDENT of RAYA Sports and Events.

ASalvador just grow balls and use your cuycuy nick. It's very understandable that you defend your dad.
 
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bandido said:
ASalvador just grow balls and use your cuycuy nick. It's very understandable that you defend your dad.

Bwahahahahahahaha! You're wrong again, just as you've always been. It goes to show how much you know.
 
arian dacongan said:
unless the BMPAP - which composed of at least 90% of pro pool players in the phil..,

90%? check your figures.

besides, no player... or group of players... is bigger than the sport
 
ASalvador said:
90%? check your figures.

besides, no player... or group of players... is bigger than the sport
Are we suppose to believe you over Aristeo Puyat?
 
ASalvador said:
Bwahahahahahahaha! You're wrong again, just as you've always been. It goes to show how much you know.
Gotcha idioto! What gives you the credibility to rebutt what I stated when you're hiding behind a fake name? Think harder! hahahaha!

Did you also notice the little red square under your user name? That means that you have a negative reputation here which means that what ever you post doesn't mean didly and can just be made fun of. Hahahahahaha!!!! Soooo, just goes to show how much YOU know....

Run along now messenger boy.
 
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ASalvador said:
90%? check your figures.

besides, no player... or group of players... is bigger than the sport

what are you implying here? please expound this and your role on this sport so called billiard/pool.
 
ASalvador said:
90%? check your figures.

besides, no player... or group of players... is bigger than the sport


I don't mean to be rude but this statement of yours is an insult to pool itself. don't tell me that without Efren and company, Pool in the Phils would still flourish as it is now. that's pure BS. when people talk about pool, they say Efren. get your facts straight since you're a Filipino yourself. you are making a scene here just to defend a group of people of your interest. and please state who you are since you might be one of those anonymous attack dogs that texted Alex with profanities.

your statement made a bad impression.
 
So this is what I understand, BSCP is a governing body of pool and billiards in the Philippines headed by Makabenta and Raya sports is also headed by Makabenta. Raya is making money out of pool, hence the BSCP. Any pool that the BSCP organized it should be contracted by Raya and no other. Well I see conflict of interest. Why were there no elections in BSCP? Is Makabenta president for life? Does he owns BSCP? Will APBU accepts other membership body from the Philippines? Or just the BSCP?
 
parvus1202 said:
So this is what I understand, BSCP is a governing body of pool and billiards in the Philippines headed by Makabenta and Raya sports is also headed by Makabenta. Raya is making money out of pool, hence the BSCP. Any pool that the BSCP organized it should be contracted by Raya and no other. Well I see conflict of interest. Why were there no elections in BSCP? Is Makabenta president for life? Does he owns BSCP? Will APBU accepts other membership body from the Philippines? Or just the BSCP?
APBU can only accept 1 member per country. BSCP (the governing body for AMATEUR pool and billiards in the Philipines) isn't the problem, though, it's just being used as a shield and its powers abused to benefit RAYA.

RAYA's World 10 may push through if Raya:
1. Gets a Philippine Government Promoter's License through the Games and Amusements Board (GAB)
2. Acquire the required Event Permit from the Governments Play-for-pay regulating and supervising body. Again the GAB.
3. Place in escrow the required percentage of the prize money. Again with the GAB.
and finally....
4. File documents and pay the required Temporary Work Permit for the foreign player participants with the Philippines' beaureu of Immigration and Deportation.

I'm just wondering how RAYA's fulfilling nos. 1,2 & 3 of the above will impact their requested Senate Hearing contesting the authority of the GAB? Did they just waste the Senate's time and resources (Filipino Tax Money)?
 
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Makabenta (trans: to make a sale) Diaries

MAKABENTA DIARIES by Spunik and posted in Matchroomsportforums

Yen Makabenta is a writer. Aside from writing for the dailies and magazaines, he was the chief speech writer for two Philippine presidents. In Billiards, he had chosen AZbilliards as his home for his articles.

His articles in AZ is a diary that documents his intentions in the world of pool.

In his first article, "A Global Sport", he places himself as a world-calibre proponent of the sport of pool while taking down snooker and carom. He suggests that someone has to step up to lead the ripeness of pool (also citing the problem of which game to promote), as long as "somebody not named KT will lead the way"

"Ten Ball's Time Has Come" started with an obituary to 9-Ball. It is the first time that he muscled his intentions through by announcing that BSCP has decided to use 10-Ball in all their competitions. In passing, it is the first time he mentioned his intention to host a world 10-Ball tournament in the Philippines -- of course after he seemed to have justified it by cutting down the game of 9-Ball. In all fairness, there are a lot of 10-Ball fanatics, and their motivation is for the love of the game, and not for a vision in pool.

"The Two Visions of Pool" marks the first time he is talking about a hurdle to his dream in BMPAP. It is also the start of printed animosity between BSCP and BMPAP. It is the start of protecting his dream of a 10-Ball franchise by all means - even putting lies on print about the profile of BMPAP, its following, and its intentions. This article was the declaration of war. Because of his dream as a Raya Sport President, he threw away his BSCP Chair duty to take care of its constituents. The Franchise must go on, and this is the start of the grave misuse of WPA accreditation.

Because of keeping his credible nose above water, "World Ten Ball in Manila" had to come out. It further strengthens his accreditation position. It is no longer only BSCP who is the accredited country representative of WPA. It is now Raya Sports that has been accredited by WPA. The swift shift to where the money is (Raya) is the first hint of empowering Raya until there will be no more use for BSCP. But until a successful 10-Ball tournament takes place, there is a need for BSCP if only to silence and put BMPAP into where it should be - an unfair playing field. The timing of is article will probably be regretted in hindsight as everything was announced (including prize money) while it was still in the drawing board.

What about the local scene where BMPAP is gaining momentum? "Pool and Tourism" is a bold article that announced its domestic plan of holding a Philippine Pool Tour. They needed a program to counter BMPAP's announced national pool programs, and they also needed a dry-run for their world 10-ball dream. Unfortunately to this writing, only two out of the six legs has pushed through. Again, timing. Announcements had to be done while everything was still in the drawing board.

"Creating The World Pool Tour" is an admission that the drawing board was just a drawing board. From the first announcement in "World Ten Ball in Manila" that the prize money fund was $400,000.00, it has now being humbly lowered to $150,000.00 and the date is being reset to January ofr February of 2009. It also revealed that they truly have a problem because for their dream to be qualified as a World Tour leg, "it has both the credibility and the clout to deal with the continental federations, billiards manufacturers and promoters."

"Ten Ball?s Debut in Manila" does not say much. It talks about a testimonial of (an invited American competitor in the Mandaluyong Cup) Gerry Watson of how he was impressed by an unheralded Banares. This article tries hard to put credibility in BSCP's local tournaments.

But because of the revelations and the problems that BSCP has been having, Makabenta decided to flip-flop and slate the 10-Ball tournament on September this year again in "How to Join World Ten Ball". It is probably because of the fear and the reality that the BSCP ship is sinking fast. It is quite obvious that aside from urging a response from players, there is a desperate needed list of attendees to get sponsors.

What is amusingly absent is an article about the BSCP Puerto Princesa leg where players (Hohmann et al) were made to take off their shoes and plant trees in the mud by the sponsoring mayor. Sponsorship came at the players' expense, having to ride on open vehicles in the rain for a mayor's glorious motorcade.

Lastly, "Introducing The BSCP" is an article that seems like one that should be read by Makabenta before abandoning the ship. The hole in the hull has gotten bigger with the credibility issues of BSCP and Raya. This article comes out of sequence because it should have been the first one written. It's pathetic how most everything that he says crumbles in progression and is indirectly proportional to BMPAP's credibility. Towards the end, he arrogantly states that BMPAP cannot strive unless BSCP/Raya gets out of billiards. He stated here that the National Billiards League cannot "get off the ground and find sponsors". He spoke too soon.

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I am very eager what the next entry of Makabenta will be in his AZBilliards diary.
 
BMPAP Advisory

First released 21 July 2008 then 15 August 2008.


BMPAP Advisory


Mabuhay! The sport that we Filipinos take most pride in is in its most exciting time. Our beloved Filipino Poolplayers are continually reaching greater heights and the most recent achievements of note are Alex Pagulayan?s triumph in the 2008 World Pool Masters and Dennis Orcullo?s conquest in the 1st Qatar International 9-Ball Championship.

The Philippines and its people are blessed with such abundance of world-class players that every world caliber competition is always regarded as another laurel that can easily be donned by a Filipino Pool Champion. Such source of national pride and its ever increasing frequency brings too the ever increasing responsibility in safeguarding this national treasure that our country is extremely proud of in this economically trying times.

We, the BMPAP Officers and Directors, being of service to the country and its people in safeguarding and assuring that this source of national pride will continually progress would like to solicit the assistance of all our loyal supporters in our fight to battle the unauthorized use and exploitation of our Champions and up-and-comers in our sport of pool.

May we please remind all our supporters that there are elements that flaunt the names of our champions for their own personal financial gains without the authority to use these names in association with their promoted events.

In response to the above improprieties, the BMPAP Organization announces that all BMPAP member players, their names and likeness cannot be used in advertising or as part of any marketing/event sponsorship solicitation program without the expressed written consent of the BMPAP Organization.

We encourage you to contact us for further information and assistance or to report such occurance.of misrepresentation. Your kind cooperation is requested and appreciated.



Atty. Vic D. Rodriguez
President
 
parvus1202 said:
So this is what I understand, BSCP is a governing body of pool and billiards in the Philippines headed by Makabenta and Raya sports is also headed by Makabenta. Raya is making money out of pool, hence the BSCP. Any pool that the BSCP organized it should be contracted by Raya and no other. Well I see conflict of interest. Why were there no elections in BSCP? Is Makabenta president for life? Does he owns BSCP? Will APBU accepts other membership body from the Philippines? Or just the BSCP?
Check out the contents of the Senate Hearing here:
http://www.worldpoolchampionship.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3909&whichpage=2
 
I'll be rude. . . .

Shut up!

Stop displaying your dirty laundry.

Next time you guys post, please TELL US WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING TO FIX THE PROBLEM.
 
crosseyedjoe said:
I'll be rude. . . .

Shut up!

Stop displaying your dirty laundry.

Next time you guys post, please TELL US WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING TO FIX THE PROBLEM.
LOL! This is the "fixing stage"! The problem is...."the problem" just doesn't want to let go even though he knows that he isn't going forward. Any news from your end?
 
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