The Pool Room, Marietta, GA

smyrna

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I don't know if anyone plays there a lot but since the IPT came through and they had to put different cloth for the tourney it really STINKS! Its like playing on a knitted sweater You should see the pills on it! slow rolling causes the balls to zig-zag. What type of felt is used for the IPT? i want to make sure i NEVER put it on either of my tables or let any of my friends use it on theirs.
 
I think it's Mali cloth, very slow. I read that Trudeau wants players missing balls, thus carpet and quite tight pockets.

Flex
 
I've played on it. Not at the Pool Room. But once at Capone's in Spring Hill, FL and once at Ray Marin's house. I adjusted fairly quickly. It's really not that slow. It just takes a better stroke to get the appropriate action. I did notice that it seems to deflect a LOT more. Practicing safeties with Ray was a ***** ;).
 
Yah, those tables are... interesting now. I played on the tables there, both the ones not used in the IPT qualifier, and the ones used. It's a significant differents. Even LOOKING at the cloth, it almost looks like shag carpet. :D

But - it's something that can be adapted to. I was there Sunday playing on those tables and I found my groove soon enough.

I'm going to miss that place when I head back home to Colorado in a few days. Lots of good tables, plenty of cute waitresses (ah, Charity, I barely knew you!), good folks.
 
It is still not known whether that will be the official IPT cloth or not. It was a special blend only for that tournament as a tester.
 
rackmsuckr said:
It is still not known whether that will be the official IPT cloth or not. It was a special blend only for that tournament as a tester.
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Plenty of knappy cloth available to choose from. Most is not cut in lengths for 9' tables though. Lower grades of Mali, Forstmann, House & Sons, Champion, maybe even lower grades from Simonis and Granito. Who's deciding KT,Deno, Mike?

Terry
 
smyrna said:
I don't know if anyone plays there a lot but since the IPT came through and they had to put different cloth for the tourney it really STINKS! Its like playing on a knitted sweater You should see the pills on it! slow rolling causes the balls to zig-zag. What type of felt is used for the IPT? i want to make sure i NEVER put it on either of my tables or let any of my friends use it on theirs.
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Actually, Mr. Trudeau was not happy with the cloth balling up either. He is in the process of contracting with a company to make their own cloth for the tour that has a heavier nap but doesn't ball up.
I myself am praying for this tour to be a success and if I have to sacrifice playing on any cloth to support it, I will. Pool needs our support, not someone knocking every little thing.
If you don't like the cloth, or the balls, or the tables or their rules...then start your own $10,000,000 tour!
 
Diane cool down, the original post was a customer complaining he has to play on it now, not an IPT member. You missed the point.
 
nfty9er said:
Diane cool down, the original post was a customer complaining he has to play on it now, not an IPT member. You missed the point.
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I am cool...I just think we should be greatful to John for working hard to bring the IPT qualifier here so we could witness 8-ball at it's finest. So, if we have to play on the cloth for a little while longer, big deal!
Negativity can spread like a disease...how about, "hey, I was at the Marietta IPT qualifier this weekend and saw some of the greatest 8-ball ever! I'd really like to thank John and his staff for hosting such an event and look forward to more in the future!"
Now that can't be that hard.
 
Diane said:
I am cool...I just think we should be greatful to John for working hard to bring the IPT qualifier here so we could witness 8-ball at it's finest. So, if we have to play on the cloth for a little while longer, big deal!
Negativity can spread like a disease...how about, "hey, I was at the Marietta IPT qualifier this weekend and saw some of the greatest 8-ball ever! I'd really like to thank John and his staff for hosting such an event and look forward to more in the future!"
Now that can't be that hard.
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I like the way you think, Diane! What a breath of fresh air you are! Sunny days are up just ahead on the IPT tournament trail!

JAM
 
JAM said:
I like the way you think, Diane! What a breath of fresh air you are! Sunny days are up just ahead on the IPT tournament trail!
JAM
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I have to respectfully disagree that there are no legitimate grounds for criticism of the IPT's current cloth selection. It seems extremely disingenous to publicly say all is perfect with their current selection simply for fear of being accused of negativity. It is a simple technical choice, and, until the IPT can find a slow napped cloth that does not exhibit the standard technical problems of the current brands it is simply the wrong choice. (Aside from the pilling problem there are the issues of faster rates of wear, much less consistent speed over time, development of flat spots and the higher absorbtion rate of moisture in humid climates.)

I appreciate your desire for everyone to show fealty to the IPT, and have no desire to criticise hard-working room owners and local tournament directors, but please note two things:

Firstly Simonis have been a consistent sponsor of multiple different Pro tours and events throughout the last 10 years or so. Are they not owed some loyalty from this dedication to our sport? They even developed 860 as a specific blend of cloth at the direct request of the 9 Ball pro players of the time. (Oddly enough it was also done to slow the cue ball down compared to their 760 blend popular at the time.)

Secondly before complaining people here are being negative about the IPT remeber that this board is populated mostly by amatuer players. Simonis make a product enjoyed thousands (If not millions) of such players, not just the small percentage lucky enough to compete in the IPT. As a regular amateur player I would be extremely upset if my local rooms started replacing their Simonis with inferior grades of napped cloth in order to comply with the wishes of a remote Pro tour organization in it's infancy. Us amateurs have to live with these tables every day, not just for a one-off tournament.
 
Diane said:
I am cool...I just think we should be greatful to John for working hard to bring the IPT qualifier here so we could witness 8-ball at it's finest. So, if we have to play on the cloth for a little while longer, big deal!
Negativity can spread like a disease...how about, "hey, I was at the Marietta IPT qualifier this weekend and saw some of the greatest 8-ball ever! I'd really like to thank John and his staff for hosting such an event and look forward to more in the future!"
Now that can't be that hard.
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Yes, two great weekends of pool in a row - the IPT at Marietta, then the Viking at Duluth. Thanks John!

(Also, I'm one of the idiots who likes the new cloth in Marietta, and never liked the fast Championship stuff).
 
I remember hearing it is Mali. It looks like regular Championship to me. I'm sure the owner had to pay out of his pocket to put it on. So he's probably going to let it get ragged out some before going back to Simonis. Not to mention there are some IPT players here in Atlanta so it would be good for them to practice on that.

I also heard that for the Tournament they are going to be using 9' Diamond 1 peices. Odd I think. But whatever floats their boats.
 
id like to point out that is DID NOT say it was too slow. i said slow-rolling (light stroke) causes the ball to zig-zag and its DEFINATLY from the pilling. if they are clean its not horrible! its just that when you have been playing there for 2 years and all of a sudden its switched it makes a difference.
 
Didn't Breedlove or someone else at the qualifier use a lint roller on the table? :p
 
Cloth...

It's actually not Mali, but Granito...and yes it is nappy, and yes it does roll up...and yes it's hard to know where the balls gonna end up if slow rolled...that said, the speed is good, if they can just solve the excessive nap problem it would be a good cloth...and they didn't recover every table at The Pool Room with this new cloth...if you don't care for the 'New' cloth, just play a different table with the 'Old' Championship cloth on it...

my 2c-
 
Jersey said:
It's actually not Mali, but Granito...and yes it is nappy, and yes it does roll up...and yes it's hard to know where the balls gonna end up if slow rolled...that said, the speed is good, if they can just solve the excessive nap problem it would be a good cloth
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How well will it wear over time? I'm sure it's a good speed when brand new but how will it play in 6 months time compared to 6-month old Simonis or a similar high-quality napless cloth?

In fact isn't this a problem as well for the IPT? They had not realized that brand new napped cloth can play almost as fast as napless cloth, it only starts getting really slow after some use, so I'd heard the new custom cloth they are trying to source at present will be required to be fairly slow right from the moment it's first installed.
 
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AuntyDan said:
How well will it wear over time. I'm sure it's a good speed when brand new but how will it play in 6 months time compared to 6-month old Simonis or a similar high-quality napless cloth?

In fact isn't this a problem as well for the IPT? They had not realized that brand new napped cloth can play almost as fast as napless cloth, it only starts getting really slow after some use, so I'd heard the new custom cloth they are trying to source at present will be required to be fairly slow right from the moment it's first installed.
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I agree, it seems to me that it would be quite difficult to manufacture a cloth that would play to IPT Specs right off the roll...especially given the amount of play it would receive over a very short span of time...how could it continue to play the same on day 5 as it did day 1?...and how are they going to achieve an 'Old School', Slow, Heavy Nap and control piling???...no matter what style cloth they chose to use, it's playability and characteristics will change with conditions beyond anyone's control...
 
smyrna said:
I don't know if anyone plays there a lot but since the IPT came through and they had to put different cloth for the tourney it really STINKS! Its like playing on a knitted sweater You should see the pills on it! slow rolling causes the balls to zig-zag. What type of felt is used for the IPT? i want to make sure i NEVER put it on either of my tables or let any of my friends use it on theirs.
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Hi Smyrna,

I would like to thank you for your comment. It's good that customers give us constructive criticisms. Through this, we can better serve our customers.

In order for us to host the IPT qualifier, The Pool Room Sports Bar & Grille had to adhere to the rules and regulations of the IPT. One of the conditions was to change the cloth to the IPT's specification on 12 of the tournament tables. Yes, the cloth is a lot slower than our preferred cloth, Simonis 860.

The Pool Room has 41 pool tables. Only 12 of which are covered with the IPT cloth. There are 29 tables that are covered with Simonis 860. If you don't like the IPT cloth, you can play on the other tables.

I think that we ought to give the IPT a chance since it's doing great things for our sport. We ought to try out the new cloth with an open mind. Remember, YOU DON'T HAVE TO LIKE IT. Also, when Simonis first came out, it was met with a lot of resistance, people said it was to fast, players can't control the cue ball because it slides too much, etc.. Look at Simonis now. It's the cloth of choice by most players.

John
 
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