The story behind Lying Ryan Mccreesh

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I’ve known Ryan for over 20 years and played in many weekly tournaments with him. Last May he posted on Facebook hoping someone would help him out since he was in a tough situation. He was going to sell his cues for $800 to raise the money he needed. The more we texted it was agreed upon I would loan him $900 and he wouldn’t need to sell his cues.
I sent him $900 on May 22,2021 with the understanding that he would repay me by the end of June 2021. June 24th , 2021 he messaged me ask if it was ok if he paid me when his unemployment checks comes in before July 3rd which I said was fine. July 6th I messaged him since I hadn’t heard from him and his excuse was his unemployment check hasn’t come and he was going to call to find out why.
Fast forward August 20th 2021, news from the state is I should get paid this week so don’t think I forgot. November 1, I’m in a lost world right now and I’m still fighting for unemployment. One lie after another.
December 30 I messaged him , I guess I was foolish loaning money to a pool player. His responds if I was not gonna I would avoid you and I’m not so trust me ,
April 23 , 2021 Lying Ryan plays at the super billiards expo singles and came in the money ($800). Not soon after Lying Ryan blocked me on Facebook.
July 21, 2021 someone gave me his phone number and I messaged him. He ask who was messaging him and I told him it was me. I wanted to know why he blocked me on Facebook. At first he lied and said he didn’t block me , but then came up with an excuse about thinking I was hacked. Lying Ryan has now blocked me from messaging him again.
I just want the pool world to add Lying Ryan to that list of low life’s who doesn’t deserve any ones help ever again.
 
The Rooster said:
I’ve known Ryan for over 20 years and played in many weekly tournaments with him. Last May he posted on Facebook hoping someone would help him out since he was in a tough situation. He was going to sell his cues for $800 to raise the money he needed. The more we texted it was agreed upon I would loan him $900 and he wouldn’t need to sell his cues.
I sent him $900 on May 22,2021 with the understanding that he would repay me by the end of June 2021. June 24th , 2021 he messaged me ask if it was ok if he paid me when his unemployment checks comes in before July 3rd which I said was fine. July 6th I messaged him since I hadn’t heard from him and his excuse was his unemployment check hasn’t come and he was going to call to find out why.
Fast forward August 20th 2021, news from the state is I should get paid this week so don’t think I forgot. November 1, I’m in a lost world right now and I’m still fighting for unemployment. One lie after another.
December 30 I messaged him , I guess I was foolish loaning money to a pool player. His responds if I was not gonna I would avoid you and I’m not so trust me ,
April 23 , 2021 Lying Ryan plays at the super billiards expo singles and came in the money ($800). Not soon after Lying Ryan blocked me on Facebook.
July 21, 2021 someone gave me his phone number and I messaged him. He ask who was messaging him and I told him it was me. I wanted to know why he blocked me on Facebook. At first he lied and said he didn’t block me , but then came up with an excuse about thinking I was hacked. Lying Ryan has now blocked me from messaging him again.
I just want the pool world to add Lying Ryan to that list of low life’s who doesn’t deserve any ones help ever again.
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My dad gave some advice, which I’m sure other fathers have told their young idealistic sons: if you never want to hear from someone again, lend them money.

I know you were trying to do a good thing and I feel your pain but this is the way it is.

Lou Figueroa
 
The Rooster said:
I’ve known Ryan for over 20 years and played in many weekly tournaments with him. Last May he posted on Facebook hoping someone would help him out since he was in a tough situation. He was going to sell his cues for $800 to raise the money he needed. The more we texted it was agreed upon I would loan him $900 and he wouldn’t need to sell his cues.
I sent him $900 on May 22,2021 with the understanding that he would repay me by the end of June 2021. June 24th , 2021 he messaged me ask if it was ok if he paid me when his unemployment checks comes in before July 3rd which I said was fine. July 6th I messaged him since I hadn’t heard from him and his excuse was his unemployment check hasn’t come and he was going to call to find out why.
Fast forward August 20th 2021, news from the state is I should get paid this week so don’t think I forgot. November 1, I’m in a lost world right now and I’m still fighting for unemployment. One lie after another.
December 30 I messaged him , I guess I was foolish loaning money to a pool player. His responds if I was not gonna I would avoid you and I’m not so trust me ,
April 23 , 2021 Lying Ryan plays at the super billiards expo singles and came in the money ($800). Not soon after Lying Ryan blocked me on Facebook.
July 21, 2021 someone gave me his phone number and I messaged him. He ask who was messaging him and I told him it was me. I wanted to know why he blocked me on Facebook. At first he lied and said he didn’t block me , but then came up with an excuse about thinking I was hacked. Lying Ryan has now blocked me from messaging him again.
I just want the pool world to add Lying Ryan to that list of low life’s who doesn’t deserve any ones help ever again.
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So why did you agree upon $900 rather than $800? :unsure:
 
The Rooster said:
I must be a slow learner or just old school because a hand shake or a man’s word at one time was all you needed. There were so many lies I couldn’t actually post them all. I was trying to give him the benefit but obviously his words mean nothing.
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I feel for you. It's a nice thing you did.
 
The Rooster said:
The key word is a loan which a person ( friend or not ) should honor. It’s past time for people to call out low life’s that don’t follow thru on the agreement. That’s just so disrespectful to treat someone who helped you out in that manner.
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Steal the F'ers cues. He already valued them at $100 less than you loaned him.
 
Joe_Jaguar said:
So why did you agree upon $900 rather than $800? :unsure:
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At first He was going to sell his cues for $800. Later he said he really needed $900 and as a friend I agreed to send him $900. I felt bad for him and didn’t want to take his cues as collateral. He would had to mail them to me in va from New York with money he needed.
 
The Rooster said:
The key word is a loan which a person ( friend or not ) should honor. It’s past time for people to call out low life’s that don’t follow thru on the agreement. That’s just so disrespectful to treat someone who helped you out in that manner.
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I believe both have a responsibility in the agreement. If any business or person strictly borrowed on trust, they would be broke in a day. Sad but true fact of life. Still, many that live everyday true to their word.
 

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Cuebuddy said:
Don't be too hard on yourself for trying to help a friend out. I have helped many out and once I give the money I don't expect it back. $900 is a lot of money but the lesson is worth much more.
Hope you eventually get it back.
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Say there, I need $300, not a penny more. My dog is sick


How am I doing going so far?

J/K 😂😂

I loaned a well know player (not cliff-I like him and he’s always been 100% with me) a few $’s once, I got 30% of it back.

What I lost was a cheap way to buy him out of my life.

What I don’t do is name names online. I don’t put biz in the street, like I mentioned earlier today I’ve been robbed by big name cue makers by more than any players ever. I still don’t name names.

Like gambling debts, they are private and breaking that code(going public) is weak as it gets in my world. Harming the future reputation of someone over a bet. Sure not paying is wrong too, but online never goes away. Paying off solves the problem. That’s why you’ll never see me on social shit-it’s just that. Shit. A message board is the most exposure I deal with.

Fatboy<——-doesn’t need $300 and doesn’t have a dog.
 
If you lend friends money, they'll disappoint you.

If you give friends money, they'll resent you. If you want someone to dislike you, give them something they cannot repay you for.

I guess it might be better to let them stay at your house until they get sick of you and move out. Of course that doesn't work if you get sick of them first.

It's so hard to do something nice for someone you know. They'll question everything about it. If I give someone something, it's because I want them to have it. I rarely have an ulterior motive, I'd say never, but I guess maybe I've tried to impress some girls in my youth (that doesn't work either).. I wish it wasn't true, but in my experience giving money or lending money to friends backfire almost 100% of the time. It's better to just buy them a beer and just listen to them complain, I guess. Man I wish peoples egos weren't so fragile.
 
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