The thing most people won't do, why systems don't help certain people

[lfigueroa]

Hmmmm, kinda weird. SVB didn't do to bad with his lessons. I'm thinking he did even a little bit better than avg

You are talking about one player with the drive, concentration, natural ability, and want-to to become a great player. That case has absolutely nothing to do with your average player ;-)

Lessons or not he was destined to be a great player. You might as well say Mosconi -- because he got a half hour instruction from his dad -- did great because of taking lessons.

Lou Figueroa

 

[Cardigan Kid]

If it is a shot you have trouble with and you dont do something similar to this, its not a question of whether you will be good overall or not, it more like you will not be good/confident at that shot.

500 is a lot. Id be open to it though. Currently, I try to remember the shots I miss/mess up position on/etc and then I repeat those shots in practice. I will shoot the shot 100 times and in groups of 10 and record my results after each group whether successful or not successful (ie, 4 good, 6 bad)

Then after I shoot 10 groups of 10 I can go back to my results and I will have a decent percentage of how often that shot was successful and thanks to shooting it in groups of 10, I can see if I improved on it the more I shot it. That entire process takes under an hour so it really isnt that bad.

just my 2cents

This post is excellent and shows that it can be done with organization and a little bit of self competition.
When drills are made into a competition within yourself, pressure and tension builds as you get deep into the count.

There was a Q and A section on the new Rodney Morris DVD where he talks about training by himself so deeply and involved that when he dogged the final ball he slammed his cue and shouted...so much so that someone came up to him years later who saw that moment and asked about it.

That's the mentality the pros get themselves in.

I really enjoyed this thread, because it's a reminder of the dedication and time that needs to be invested in order to really improve. When you have to get worse to get better it can be so demoralizing... then it clicks and all the hours payoff and you find yourself far beyond where you started...Then the hunger is to keep going...so you move on to even more difficult drills.

This is why I miss young Sam from up north. His threads where really informative in that we could see just how much work it takes to accomplish anything in the game....the lectures, suggestions and advice he got from all of us was well deserved and helpful.

In the end, when he quit, it served as another reminder to all of us that train, watch, play, and enjoy this game, that it doesn't happen overnight and there is by no means a system that solves it.

 

[dynamicmad]

Yep

Successful people are willing to do what unsuccessful people won't.........

 

[336Robin]

I like it!

Successful people are willing to do what unsuccessful people won't.........

I like it, damn skippy!

 

[BigBoof]

I highly doubt Alex sat up to a table and shot 500 shots of the same shot in a row ,, one thing Iv learned is good pool players greatly exaggerate thier practice time , Iv seen countless pro's practice Iv never seen one practice the same shot 500 times in a row a hundred maybe but never 5

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At the 2003 PGA championship, I watched Jim Furyk practicing chips on a practice green. I walked around collecting signatures on a flag. Two hours later he was still chipping onto that green!

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[336Robin]

No System for Practice and Determination

This post is excellent and shows that it can be done with organization and a little bit of self competition.
When drills are made into a competition within yourself, pressure and tension builds as you get deep into the count.

There was a Q and A section on the new Rodney Morris DVD where he talks about training by himself so deeply and involved that when he dogged the final ball he slammed his cue and shouted...so much so that someone came up to him years later who saw that moment and asked about it.

That's the mentality the pros get themselves in.

I really enjoyed this thread, because it's a reminder of the dedication and time that needs to be invested in order to really improve. When you have to get worse to get better it can be so demoralizing... then it clicks and all the hours payoff and you find yourself far beyond where you started...Then the hunger is to keep going...so you move on to even more difficult drills.

This is why I miss young Sam from up north. His threads where really informative in that we could see just how much work it takes to accomplish anything in the game....the lectures, suggestions and advice he got from all of us was well deserved and helpful.

In the end, when he quit, it served as another reminder to all of us that train, watch, play, and enjoy this game, that it doesn't happen overnight and there is by no means a system that solves it.

I really couldn't agree with you more that there is no system that will substitute for determination and practice. I 100% agree. We all have to find something in the game that fascinates us enough to want to stand there hour and hour and work on things that no one else would. That is the difference between a good player and the making of a great player.

 

[BmoreMoney]

Hmmmm, kinda weird. SVB didn't do to bad with his lessons. I'm thinking he did even a little bit better than avg

Yea, of course SVB is awesome! I would not attribute that to his " lessons " lol. I think the " lessons " ( for lack of a better word ) were more of an afterthought. His true " lessons " were the thousands of hours in action, on the road playing all of the great players, and growing up in a " pool " family. And of course above all else is his natural god given talent ( which only a very lucky few will ever get ).